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China is considering restrictions on exports of solar cell technology

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Bloomberg reported that the Ministry of Commerce and the Ministry of Science and Technology are seeking public opinions on a revised list of technologies prohibited from export and restricted from export, including some key production technologies for advanced solar cells in a bid to maintain China's dominance in solar manufacturing.



China accounts for 97 per cent of global solar cell production, and as solar technology has become the world's biggest source of new energy, countries from the US to India are trying to develop domestic supply chains to blunt China's advantage, underscoring the importance of the technology.



"Market leaders in China's solar industry are no doubt concerned about efforts by the United States, the European Union and India to develop local solar manufacturing, so the latest technology export controls are likely to be a response," said Cosimo Ries, an analyst at Trivium China.



Chinese companies have spent the past decade developing cutting-edge technology to produce larger, thinner batteries that have cut the cost of solar power by more than 90 percent.



Analysts at Daiwa Capital Markets said it made sense for China to consider a ban to avoid technology leakage overseas, given its dominance in wafers and the relatively high barriers to entry in the sector.



The revision is still in the public comment stage and has not yet been decided.
 

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China is considering restrictions on exports of solar cell technology

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Bloomberg reported that the Ministry of Commerce and the Ministry of Science and Technology are seeking public opinions on a revised list of technologies prohibited from export and restricted from export, including some key production technologies for advanced solar cells in a bid to maintain China's dominance in solar manufacturing.



China accounts for 97 per cent of global solar cell production, and as solar technology has become the world's biggest source of new energy, countries from the US to India are trying to develop domestic supply chains to blunt China's advantage, underscoring the importance of the technology.



"Market leaders in China's solar industry are no doubt concerned about efforts by the United States, the European Union and India to develop local solar manufacturing, so the latest technology export controls are likely to be a response," said Cosimo Ries, an analyst at Trivium China.



Chinese companies have spent the past decade developing cutting-edge technology to produce larger, thinner batteries that have cut the cost of solar power by more than 90 percent.



Analysts at Daiwa Capital Markets said it made sense for China to consider a ban to avoid technology leakage overseas, given its dominance in wafers and the relatively high barriers to entry in the sector.



The revision is still in the public comment stage and has not yet been decided.
just taken on the mountain top of 4300m, a remote area in Tibet, the whole area is covered by solar panels. the altitude stress almost killed me.

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What is the truth about businesses exit from China

Yes, some are leaving but not a hell of a lot. As the US Treasury Secretary said that there are a lot of issues between US and China trade. Most of these are political and dollar related issues, but these are not enough to curtail the US - China trade. Read in between the lines that this trade will continue for the most foreseeable future.

Hence, what is exiting China. ……. Textiles and lower end electronics have already exited. These have moved to Bangladesh and Vietnam. The high end electronics components and assembly line which were extension of Taiwan in China is exiting China and some more etc. It is not a hell of a lot to dent too much the Chinese economy.

The only thing which will hurt badly China is Chinese attack on Taiwan and US coming to the rescue. That war will make US mad and order curtailment of trade if US is hurt badly in the war. On the other hand US may inflict an insurmountable damage on Chinese east coast, which may take years to recover. That is the only scenario which will cut China to size. That for a while will give neighbourhood of China to build itself and counter Chinese belligerence.
 

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What is the truth about businesses exit from China

Yes, some are leaving but not a hell of a lot. As the US Treasury Secretary said that there are a lot of issues between US and China trade. Most of these are political and dollar related issues, but these are not enough to curtail the US - China trade. Read in between the lines that this trade will continue for the most foreseeable future.

Hence, what is exiting China. ……. Textiles and lower end electronics have already exited. These have moved to Bangladesh and Vietnam. The high end electronics components and assembly line which were extension of Taiwan in China is exiting China and some more etc. It is not a hell of a lot to dent too much the Chinese economy.

The only thing which will hurt badly China is Chinese attack on Taiwan and US coming to the rescue. That war will make US mad and order curtailment of trade if US is hurt badly in the war. On the other hand US may inflict an insurmountable damage on Chinese east coast, which may take years to recover. That is the only scenario which will cut China to size. That for a while will give neighbourhood of China to build itself and counter Chinese belligerence.
If the US does "insurmountable" damage to China's east coast then the war will go atomic. No nuclear nation will allow it.
 

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Perhaps, but not yet law. Do you know why? The equipment makers need to money too ;)

China itself needs FAR more photovoltaics than the rest of the world combined:
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Machinery for Chinese solar cell makers are saturated. The machinery makers themselves need to retain workforce and profit.

China needs to balance between the machinery and component makers and the assembly plants.

It is the same with electronics.

Why would China export electronic components to Vietnam and India and the rest of the world and create rivals for its assembly lines? Because China has enough lead and needs to make sure the components makers are healthy too. The same thing applies to solar cells :)
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In Dazu Rock Carving now, something interesting. Groups of American high school students and Chinese high school students are occationally mixed, the heights are almost same.

*I m 181cm but and just middle level among them.

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In Dazu Rock Carving now, something interesting. Groups of American high school students and Chinese high school students are occationally mixed, the heights are almost same.

*I m 181cm but and just middle level among them.

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When I was in Gangnam Seoul, Chinese tourists especially the girls stood out from the local population by being a head taller! The crowd from China was mostly young affluent and female. They were beautiful and looked like models. The Korean girls were very beautiful themselves just shorter :)
 

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Right now, China is consuming and generating revenue at a prodigious rate in a five day period during the May Day holiday! For example, Singapore is a tourism mecca but China generates the same revenue of $21B in five days as Singapore does in a year :)


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Perhaps, but not yet law. Do you know why? The equipment makers need to money too ;)

China itself needs FAR more photovoltaics than the rest of the world combined:
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Machinery for Chinese solar cell makers are saturated. The machinery makers themselves need to retain workforce and profit.

China needs to balance between the machinery and component makers and the assembly plants.

It is the same with electronics.

Why would China export electronic components to Vietnam and India and the rest of the world and create rivals for its assembly lines? Because China has enough lead and needs to make sure the components makers are healthy too. The same thing applies to solar cells :)
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Which is precisely why I wrote in a previous post China is a great force for the benefit of mankind irrespective of the damages it may incur in the process viz inventing gunpowder but not initiating or participating in the gun powder revolution thereby enduring 170 yrs + of humiliation , or inventing paper currency but watching the US run away with the advantage of printing endless amounts of paper currency with China owning 3 trillion worth of USDs ( what could be more humiliating than that ?) & on & on .

I sometimes wonder when will China ever become selfish & start thinking about itself than for the benefit of the world . Wish we have more China's in the world. On second thoughts one is enough . It's more than what we can handle. Who wants more than one China killing the world with kindness ?

 

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Which is precisely why I wrote in a previous post China is a great force for the benefit of mankind irrespective of the damages it may incur in the process viz inventing gunpowder but not initiating or participating in the gun powder revolution thereby enduring 170 yrs + of humiliation , or inventing paper currency but watching the US run away with the advantage of printing endless amounts of paper currency with China owning 3 trillion worth of USDs ( what could be more humiliating than that ?) & on & on .

I sometimes wonder when will China ever become selfish & start thinking about itself than for the benefit of the world . Wish we have more China's in the world. On second thoughts one is enough . It's more than what we can handle. Who wants more than one China killing the world with kindness ?
It's great when you have three trillion dollars. You can buy mining terminals, valuable company stakes, railroads, military bases,
you can do a lot of things It feels so good


Don't worry about another China


There will not be another country with 1.3 billion people with an average IQ of 104.1
 

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In PPP, Chinese R&D is blowing the doors off the US:
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This is future projecting. The R&D money you spend now bear fruits in the future.

The HSR, Solar, Wind and EV supply chains are results of earlier R&D.

What's coming would be in semiconductors (fully in-country supply chain!), electro-magnetic (carrier catapults and 600 kph maglevs), nuclear fusion and more. You will see Chinese civilian aircraft and aircraft engines in fields that used to be dominated by just a few Western companies.

You will see space travel and exploitation of the moon.

It will be so much fun to watch unfold!
 

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When I was in Gangnam Seoul, Chinese tourists especially the girls stood out from the local population by being a head taller! The crowd from China was mostly young affluent and female. They were beautiful and looked like models. The Korean girls were very beautiful themselves just shorter :)
“look, look our women are now HUGE.”

Do Chinese men have a history of desiring big women?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020

the study linked found women were most satisfied when their partner was 21cm taller than them.

So who are Chinese/Taiwanese women be altered to satisfy?

Which type of big men are known to be more accepting of big women?

You guessed it, the future of China and Taiwan seem to be Blasian, negatives grow.
Why? Both Taiwan and China took a bite of that Apple. They begin to reap the "rewards". A way has been found to stop China's population decline.

Norse Goddess Hel. half black half white.

Interesting, black and white is the same as Catholic priest robes and Nazi officer uniforms.
 

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These are the largest economy in the world:
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These are their inflation numbers:
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Why are inflation numbers important?
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This is real economic growth during the past two years -- this is during the midst of China's Zero Covid policy ;)
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