Ceding Aksai Chin not an option for India

[CCTV]

The ideal way India can take on China without a war is to encourage insurrection.

It is easier for China to do it on India.

 

[CCTV]

The ideal way India can take on China without a war is to encourage insurrection.

Do you know how many rebel forces in India?

 

[bose]

Did you asked a Tibetan ?

Did'nt you see the money we have sent on your premier's recent visit to India to make it safe from Tibetans???

 

[bose]

It is easier for China to do it on India.

You are already doing it !!!

 

[Known_Unknown]

Nationalism is the nectar for the mass in absence of other spiritual engine. Don't u find Indian posters are even much much higher in Nationalism?

When will there be a "collective" alliance? Anyway this about China-India rivalry. Most of states would either see it as none of their business, or tilt toward what's in their own interest.

Middle class Indian posters posting on the internet are "high" on nationalism. Problem is, the Indian state is not. In China's case, it is the reverse, and hence much more dangerous.

You're mistaken if you think most states would remain oblivious or see it as none of their business. We live in a world of the UN and multilateral action. Even the US faced so much condemnation for going into Iraq and Afghanistan. A war between major powers like China and India, both nuclear armed, will definitely not be a one on one fight.

Even in 1962, despite complete annihilation of the Indian armed forces by the PLA in Arunachal Pradesh, India refused to surrender until China withdrew her forces past the Mcmahon line. What makes you think a nuclear-armed India will lie down prostrate before Chinese aggression?

 

[Known_Unknown]

False. China is not out for lebensraum in the same way that Germany or Japan were in the 1930s. Why?

Because China isn't issuing debt (borrowing money) to expand its military.

A nation's checkbook usually tells you a lot more about that country's priorities than its words will.

If you looked at Germany's or Japan's 'checkbook' in 1936, you would have been alarmed. They were borrowing upwards of 10% of their GDP each year to decrease unemployment by shifting out of work men into building tanks, planes, and ships. All those tools of war their national manpower was building can be viewed as an investment, and the only way to earn a return off a fighter plane is to invade, pillage, and expropriate.

Plus, since tanks, planes, and ships become obsolete very quickly, their value depreciates fast. In order for a military buildup to make economic sense, not only do you need your wars to be profitable, you need them to happen in the near-future, while your shiny toys are still shiny.

China isn't doing that. Even the highest estimates of China's defense spending as a % of GDP put it below the US, Russia, and even South Korea.

EDIT: For an example of what happens when a nation spends a lot on the military but never uses it to harvest a 'return' through a successful war, look no further than your own USSR from 1964 to 1991. A steady erosion in national economic competitiveness; shortages of everything; hidden debts loaded all through the banking system; social unrest.

Your analogy isn't completely accurate. You are looking at defence spending as a % of GDP which is the wrong way to look at it. Even if China's % spending is low, the sheer size of the economy means the spending in dollar terms is massive. Combined with the fact that China's manpower and labour costs are much lower than developed countries, China gets a much bigger bang for it's $ than do the US or Russia.

After all, if you are spending $200 billion on your military, the % is irrelevant, because all the countries around you are spending mere fractions of that amount, and hence will not be able to withstand an armed invasion short of using the nuclear option.

 

[Ray]

It is easier for China to do it on India.

China is already doing it.

Old Hat!

Surprising that you did not know that!

 

[Ray]

Do you know how many rebel forces in India?

Indeed.

That is what I did in my spare time

It was fun time in Bagdad!

 

[bose]

+100

Seriously, I am appalled at the way such threads end up as fire fights.

Especially @bose, and @desicanuk

We keep criticizing PRC on moral grounds but we do nothing else on the ground. There is a saying that a barking dog seldom bites, and India is a barking dog. Why will PRC give up any territory it holds? It is powerful, and will not give anything up.

India seriously needs to ramp up its military and economy, and solve the internal issues first. Be strong internally first, and then we should think of threatening others.

Every single thing @t_co has said is realistic. What kind of rising power is India? We give too much lecture, talk too much, sermonize too much, but do very little collectively. No wonder we got a leader like Nehru.

Nehru messed it up big time... He should have taken the military action during the Korean war its... that was a costly mistake... a co ordinated action along with USA & UK and possible nuking of China by USA then in 50's would have brought China to its knees...

 

[CCTV]

Nehru messed it up big time... He should have taken the military action during the Korean war its... that was a costly mistake... a co ordinated action along with USA & UK and possible nuking of China by USA then in 50's would have brought China to its knees...

If US want they can nuke China in Korean War.

If PLA can drive UN force from Chinese border to 38 parallel line, it can conquer India.

 

[CCTV]

Middle class Indian posters posting on the internet are "high" on nationalism. Problem is, the Indian state is not. In China's case, it is the reverse, and hence much more dangerous.

You're mistaken if you think most states would remain oblivious or see it as none of their business. We live in a world of the UN and multilateral action. Even the US faced so much condemnation for going into Iraq and Afghanistan. A war between major powers like China and India, both nuclear armed, will definitely not be a one on one fight.

Even in 1962, despite complete annihilation of the Indian armed forces by the PLA in Arunachal Pradesh, India refused to surrender until China withdrew her forces past the Mcmahon line. What makes you think a nuclear-armed India will lie down prostrate before Chinese aggression?

Major power ? Nuclear armed ? India ?

 

[CCTV]

Nehru messed it up big time... He should have taken the military action during the Korean war its... that was a costly mistake... a co ordinated action along with USA & UK and possible nuking of China by USA then in 50's would have brought China to its knees...

Read some history books kid.

Do you know what UK did when they hear US mentioned they may use nuclear weapon in Korean War.

 

[bose]

Read some history books kid.

Do you know what UK did when they hear US mentioned they may use nuclear weapon in Korean War.

Read it again !! Idiot...

 

[bose]

If US want they can nuke China in Korean War.

If PLA can drive UN force from Chinese border to 38 parallel line, it can conquer India.

PLA is a bunch of cowards... they ran away from Arunachal Pradesh when they saw that USA is tilting towards India...

 

[CCTV]

Read it again !! Idiot...

The word is suit you better.

 

[CCTV]

PLA is a bunch of cowards... they ran away from Arunachal Pradesh when they saw that USA is tilting towards India...

If so, we will not touch powerful US 's allies in west pacific.

 

[bose]

If so, we will not touch powerful US 's allies in west pacific.

as we have seen the recent development there...

 

[CCTV]

as we have seen the recent development there...

Google Phillipines China, you will see we just got another island from US 's ally yestady.

 

[bose]

Google Phillipines China, you will see we just got another island from US 's ally yestady.

Did, found out one chinese was sent to hell by US's ally...

 

[CCTV]

Did, found out one chinese was sent to hell by US's ally...

No, that is another ally of US

You have to look the news for today.
Philippines Protests Chinese Warship's Presence