Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT)

[Kunal Biswas]

if we belive ourself then and then only we can become superpower

if we belive ourself then and then only we become real superpower

Its Arjun Thread, Post pics or Information....

Stop Flame baiting..

 

[lambu]

Army set to place order for 248 more arjun main battle tanks

The much-maligned Arjun Main Battle Tank is poised to get a fresh lease of life, with the Indian Army set to order 248 more of India's first indigenously-built tanks, a decision that will also give a much-needed shot in the arm to the country's beleaguered tank fleet.
"We are definitely expecting more orders, at least a minimum of 248 tanks of the Mark-II version. The Ordnance Factory Board has been instructed by the ministry of defence to initiate action for the procurement of the Mark-II version," P. Sivakumar, director, Combat Vehicles Research and Development Establishment, told the Economic Times.

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[plugwater]

Army set to place order for 248 more arjun main battle tanks

BANGALORE: The much-maligned Arjun Main Battle Tank is poised to get a fresh lease of life, with the Indian Army set to order 248 more of India's first indigenously-built tanks, a decision that will also give a much-needed shot in the arm to the country's beleaguered tank fleet.

"We are definitely expecting more orders, at least a minimum of 248 tanks of the Mark-II version. The Ordnance Factory Board has been instructed by the ministry of defence to initiate action for the procurement of the Mark-II version," P. Sivakumar, director, Combat Vehicles Research and Development Establishment, told the Economic Times.

The order, which could be placed in late-2011 itself, will come as a huge boost to the Arjun production line at the Heavy Vehicles Factory at Avadhi, on the outskirts of Chennai, as the same was expected to be terminated due to a lack of interest shown by the Indian Army.

So far, the Army has placed an order for 248 tanks of the Mark-I and Mark-II versions.

The Mark-II version of the Arjun MBT is currently undergoing its critical summer trials in Pokhran, Rajasthan, conducted by the country's nodal defence lab, DRDO, while the winter trials are expected to take place later in the year. The defence research establishment expects to get the new orders from the end user - the Army - once the current trials conclude.

"If the trials go well, particularly relating to missile firing, there is no doubt that further orders will be placed. There is a commitment given by the deputy chief of Army staff, if the new improvements are incorporated successfully" Sivakumar said.

The June trials have already seen the Arjun MBT Mark-II tested with a number of technical improvements, including command panoramic sight and uncooled thermal image. According to Sivakumar, a further 40 technological improvements are to be tested, including a new transmission control system and new fuel tanks.

'We are planning the first phase of the end user trials by October or November for the missile and other design improvements," he said.

The Army's decision to induct greater numbers of the Arjun MBT is a significant turnaround from its earlier reluctance to do so. However, with the military's 4,000-strong tank arsenal consisting largely of more than 2,400 obsolete T-72 tanks and transfer of technology issues with Russia relating to the T-90, has forced it to take a re-look at the Arjun.

The tank has had its fair share of detractors within the country's military establishment.

After being in development hell for more than 30 years and at a substantial cost of Rs 300-crore, the Arjun MBT programme had come under severe flak for cost overruns and its failure to meet the Indian Army's combat requirements, leading to speculation that it could never be the mainstay of the Indian Army's Armoured Corps.

But ever since comprehensively outgunning and outrunning the T-90, India's current flagship battle tank in 2010, the DRDO has been positioning the Arjun MBT as the backbone of the country's armoured fighting units.

Defended the programme, the defence establishment also laid part of the blame for the project delays on the Indian military , stating that they had to be "realistic" in their demands.

"'But while we welcome all inputs and guidelines, we also feel the need for the Services to firm up realistic requirements at the earliest, so we may properly plan our project requirements," Dr VK Saraswat, scientific advisor to the defence minister said last month.

Army set to place order for 248 more arjun main battle tanks - The Economic Times

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Exactly i have predicted..

The Numbers are nearly 500 MK-1 and MK-1-2s..

Congts !

 

[sayareakd]

8 km range of LAHAT fired from Arjun tank in non line of sight would be game changer for India. Modified JV product CLGM is made as per Indian conditions.

 

[nitesh]

Exactly i have predicted..

The Numbers are nearly 500 MK-1 and MK-1-2s..

Congts !

Kunal dada,

It seems order is something like 124 MK1+ 124 MK2 + 248 MK2
or 248 MK1 + 248 MK2

please comment

 

[plugwater]

Kunal dada,

It seems order is something like 124 MK1+ 124 MK2 + 248 MK2
or 248 MK1 + 248 MK2

please comment

First one, 124 MK1 + (124 + 248)MK2.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Kunal dada,

It seems order is something like 124 MK1+ 124 MK2 + 248 MK2
or 248 MK1 + 248 MK2

please comment

I think the first batch of 124tanks are mk-1 and rest were on orders which are MK-2..

Though its a good number for future use of Indian Tank in quick reaction forces along the border..

Hopefully many T-72s will retire in reserve..

 

[Dark_Prince]

This is great news for India and Arjun......I think it's tight slap on the corrupt procurement officers in the Army and Bureaucracy!!

 

[Rahul Singh]

I was reading this old FORCE article on Prasun Sen Gupta's blog and very 3rd sentence (It is reliably learnt that FMBT project with notional in service date of 2025 had since been shelved...............) surprised me. I wonder what author means? And on larger side how it connects with Arjun MK-2 and plus?

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@ Kunal Sir. Are those cylindrical external fuel tanks standard battle add-on or just for peace time uses? If not then can its turret swivel 360* without lifting the barrel?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

@ Kunal Sir. Are those cylindrical external fuel tanks standard battle add-on or just for peace time uses? If not then can its turret swivel 360* without lifting the barrel?

Those Fuel tanks are for long run, Its not needed, Seriously not when facing enemy..

And yes it can swing 360 without lifting the gun, otherwise its a serious handicap..

 

[sayareakd]

may i just add to what Kunal sir has said, those add on fuel tanks, with the push of button can be take out, those drums fall off from tank.

 

[sayareakd]

some more pics

check the tank not the girl

 

[Rahul Singh]

SAYA: Do you see truth in that FORCE article regarding FMBT? Is it green signal for Arjun MK-X or T-95?

 

[prime]

Isn't it little early to order the tanks, i mean even i want Arjuns to be inducted more numbers but the summer trials are going on the tank is not fully tested,we have not heard any thing about them. The winter trials are yet to be done in the year end. even the article says if the trials goes well then they can expect more orders . so may be no final confirmation from the army as yet .

 

[sayareakd]

I was reading this old FORCE article on Prasun Sen Gupta's blog and very 3rd sentence (It is reliably learnt that FMBT project with notional in service date of 2025 had since been shelved...............) surprised me. I wonder what author means? And on larger side how it connects with Arjun MK-2 and plus?

SAYA: Do you see truth in that FORCE article regarding FMBT? Is it green signal for Arjun MK-X or T-95?

Rahul, first of all IA has to write GSQR for FMBT, that is first step, then from Indian side DRDO will work on FMBT and other foreign manufacture would come up with tank which would fulfill our GSQR. BTW it is most important to note that Russia has cancelled T 95 which was supposed to be FMBT as per previous DGMF.

With that project cancelled, you can imagine what some people are saying...........since vodka has gone now, BTW some talk to keep alive T 95 project with private money..........just wonder why???


this is the person who matter most now

 

[Rahul Singh]

I getting what you are saying. For past few years DGMF was something like Gaali. BTW, SAYA do you prefer entirely new design for FMBT or a derivative of Arjun?

 

[sayareakd]

I getting what you are saying. For past few years DGMF was something like Gaali. BTW, SAYA do you prefer entirely new design for FMBT or a derivative of Arjun?

derivative of Arjun because it will build up what we have learn so far any new design would be waste of money, as we have already invested lot into this, but at the same time we need to flexible so that if their is some new changes into tank design of future our soldiers should get it, therefore complete balance would be good.

 

[joe81]

Army set to place order for 248 more arjun main battle tanks

BANGALORE: The much-maligned Arjun Main Battle Tank is poised to get a fresh lease of life, with the Indian Army set to order 248 more of India's first indigenously-built tanks, a decision that will also give a much-needed shot in the arm to the country's beleaguered tank fleet.

"We are definitely expecting more orders, at least a minimum of 248 tanks of the Mark-II version. The Ordnance Factory Board has been instructed by the ministry of defence to initiate action for the procurement of the Mark-II version," P. Sivakumar, director, Combat Vehicles Research and Development Establishment, told the Economic Times.

The order, which could be placed in late-2011 itself, will come as a huge boost to the Arjun production line at the Heavy Vehicles Factory at Avadhi, on the outskirts of Chennai, as the same was expected to be terminated due to a lack of interest shown by the Indian Army.

So far, the Army has placed an order for 248 tanks of the Mark-I and Mark-II versions.

The Mark-II version of the Arjun MBT is currently undergoing its critical summer trials in Pokhran, Rajasthan, conducted by the country's nodal defence lab, DRDO, while the winter trials are expected to take place later in the year. The defence research establishment expects to get the new orders from the end user - the Army - once the current trials conclude.

"If the trials go well, particularly relating to missile firing, there is no doubt that further orders will be placed. There is a commitment given by the deputy chief of Army staff, if the new improvements are incorporated successfully" Sivakumar said.

The June trials have already seen the Arjun MBT Mark-II tested with a number of technical improvements, including command panoramic sight and uncooled thermal image. According to Sivakumar, a further 40 technological improvements are to be tested, including a new transmission control system and new fuel tanks.

'We are planning the first phase of the end user trials by October or November for the missile and other design improvements," he said.

The Army's decision to induct greater numbers of the Arjun MBT is a significant turnaround from its earlier reluctance to do so. However, with the military's 4,000-strong tank arsenal consisting largely of more than 2,400 obsolete T-72 tanks and transfer of technology issues with Russia relating to the T-90, has forced it to take a re-look at the Arjun.

The tank has had its fair share of detractors within the country's military establishment.

After being in development hell for more than 30 years and at a substantial cost of Rs 300-crore, the Arjun MBT programme had come under severe flak for cost overruns and its failure to meet the Indian Army's combat requirements, leading to speculation that it could never be the mainstay of the Indian Army's Armoured Corps.

But ever since comprehensively outgunning and outrunning the T-90, India's current flagship battle tank in 2010, the DRDO has been positioning the Arjun MBT as the backbone of the country's armoured fighting units.

Defended the programme, the defence establishment also laid part of the blame for the project delays on the Indian military , stating that they had to be "realistic" in their demands.

"'But while we welcome all inputs and guidelines, we also feel the need for the Services to firm up realistic requirements at the earliest, so we may properly plan our project requirements," Dr VK Saraswat, scientific advisor to the defence minister said last month.
Army set to place order for 248 more arjun main battle tanks - The Economic Times

 

[nitesh]

I guess we will see more of arjun
Army's Future Main Battle Tank (FMBT) project likely to be delayed - The Economic Times