Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT)

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Completely baseless. No info. No indication of any such thing in 10 years.. I asked him a bunch of questions, to which he gave very contradicting answers that made sense. I wouldn't trust it.

Read from here: https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/arjun-main-battle-tank-mbt.9558/post-1862809
exactly. however, there's this image

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and its has 6 road wheels just like T-72s and T-90s

and this speculative image has 7 road wheels . i.e same hull of MK1. could it be that someone tried to make it based on insider info from DRDO.
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If he's named his rectum as DRDO then yes, from right inside it. 😑
why??? just whyy.

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that's too mean. give him a chance. you gotta be reasonable and collect as much info as possible before passing judgements.

this is the exact reason why i want to load you in a pak 40 and shoot you into a chinese tank side armour to destroy it. :troll:

(no offence tho.)
 

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If he's named his rectum as DRDO then yes, from right inside it. 😑
why??? just whyy.

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that's too mean. give him a chance. you gotta be reasonable and collect as much info as possible before passing judgements.

this is the exact reason why i want to load you in a pak 40 and shoot you into a chinese tank side armour to destroy it. :troll:

(no offence tho.)
IMO in the stuff he peddles around I feel in his exaggerations or claims there may be some figment of the truth.
So best not to completely disregard him.
 

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exactly. however, there's this image

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and its has 6 road wheels just like T-72s and T-90s

and this speculative image has 7 road wheels . i.e same hull of MK1. could it be that someone tried to make it based on insider info from DRDO.
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1st one old FMBT, GNMBT was based on that (kinda like old Tejas Mark2 & parent MWF)

2nd one is complete fanart.
 

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1st one old FMBT, GNMBT was based on that (kinda like old Tejas Mark2 & parent MWF)

2nd one is complete fanart.
yes 2nd one is fan art. but could it be possible to have such a conf made by drdo? and that prasun guy wrote so convincingly that 7 MK2 are already in testing and firing trails.

guess i just need some
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yes 2nd one is fan art. but could it be possible to have such a conf made by drdo? and that prasun guy wrote so convincingly that 7 MK2 are already in testing and firing trails.

guess i just need some
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The 2nd image is a very old fanart, which I saw more than a decade ago. Even before the first MK1A prototype was revealed in 2012 (it was then called MK2).

Another very old fanart of FMBT, had a superficial resemblance to M1Abrams:
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Nevertheless, none of these fanarts will materialize, though there is a slight chance that old FMBT turret may find its way in Arjun mk2.
However, the future of Arjun mk2 project is highly uncertain.
 

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i found these interesting pages.

both these pages talk about Arjun tank development from MK1 to MK1A to MK2.

and both state that arjun MK2 will be a 50 ton futuristic FMBT. that is similar to T-90S in its configuration, that could replace all old T-72s. so it will have 6 road wheels instead of 7.

the T-90S tanks that we use are literally knocked down versions of T-72 B with just a better fire control systems etc. but the gun is the same one used on T-72 B. and the armour is the same steel version of that of T-72 B.

so we don't even have good armour tank or a good gun until now. thats why local kanchan armour is used on T-90S. thats why our T-90S are heavier than russian T-72 B even though T-72B has better and heavier gun.

thats why even russia has less than 300 T-90 that too MS with an APS hard kill.

T-72 B3 of russia >T-90S of india . also T-72 B3 is much cheaper than our T-90S.

we didn't even get 2A46 125mm gun during recent technology transfer.

even the army's FMBT programme failed. because no one is ready for TOT more than some 30-40%

our army is basically that one "character" that gets rejected all the time. no one would give atleast a reasonable Transfer of technology. be it the brits in 60s and 70s or soviets in 80s, 90s. russians in 2000s and 2010s. or even americans in any of their sold platforms.

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(if you knew, you should have supported DRDO right from the start, crying won't get you anywhere)



while its too tsundere to accept the weapon systems of DRDO.


in the end modi, rajnath sing and bureaucrats of MOD have tried so hard and pushed the 118 arjun MK1A on to the baboos of army that lick russian equipment.

basically its
corrupt bureaucrats vs army baaboos.

my guess is that army baaboos might made a condition with bureaucrats that they would accept arjun only if there is T-90S TOT. so it happened. so if in future any DRDO tank project fails, we have T-90S as standoff platform (which again is literally a T-72 B with kanchan armour and a bit better gun and fire control systems, engine etc and kontakt-5 ERA). it still doesn't have an heater or AC BTW.

we need to wait for the negative list. i'm sure tanks might be under negative list. its also another reason for army to have a standoff platform T-90S with some 70% TOT.


so yeah CONCLUSION.


FMBT = ARJUN MK2.

( GNMBT won't exist until atleast 2035-2040). even the requirements for GNMBT doesn't exist on paper. so another 10-20 yrs for GNMBT to be in service)(don't ask about mass production of GNMBT)

MK2 is a real project. not some fake news.

will mostly look like this. 6 wheels, 50 ton, 3 crew, auto loader, kanchan armour, advanced electronics, APS. ( commander sight and 12.7mm guns were made keeping MK2 in mind not MK1A. and that too by 2020. CLGM was ready by 2020 & etc.

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