p2prada
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Nobody in the world has still answered how much it is going to cost to induct and operate the Arjun compared to T-90.if you take a look at Ray Sir's post he does not about these at all.
And he also gives the T-90 number as 500 instead of 1600. 1000 Arjuns can be inducted if T-90s are limited and placed on the backburner.infact he says 1000 Arjun tanks mark 1 and 2 can be inducted.
And the very people who serve in the army and are right on top of the (decision)chain chose the T-90 over the Arjun. They obviously know something we don't.and so have many army people like gen. shankar roy chowdhary, gen. thamburaj and Ajai shukla who support Arjun. all are people who served the army.
Bring all the cool stuff in the T-90 and the Arjun costs will balloon. And I am not talking about unit costs. I am talking about lifecycle costs. If an Arjun costs 15 Crores and a T-90 costs 15 Crores, these costs will be peanuts compared to the actual lifecycles costs. Maybe 2 or 3 times more. And the T-90 is cheaper in that respect.as for T-90 being cheaper, well - not really.
Like OOE said, amateurs talk big guns and speed while professionals talk logistics. Moving your military at the right time to the right place is what determines the winner.i, like the rest of the members who have debated with you, don't see the issue of logistics the same way as you do.
You must understand that modern warfare is completely different from WW2. It is all about forcing the enemy in a small area so they can be bombed from the air. All that Blitzkreig era in gone.
Why does MoD need guts if they can overrule anything the services do? The MoD and the GoI specifically stated the Airforce can choose whichever plane they want in the MRCA and they will not interfere.well you call it overrule or force. GOI/MOD will have final say irrespective of army wanting or not wanting. i only wish MOD shows some gut.
That is not a boost in capability.It just adds to existing capability. Case in point in the MRCA, we are getting a whole new radar system with an entirely different avionics package which will completely radicalize fighting in the subcontinent. The Arjun gives a supposedly slightly better armour and crew protection with systems that are more or less the same as T-90. It is not a boost.Arjun outruns, outscores and protects the crew far better vis-a-vis T-90. i feel it boosts the capability. so, infrastructure should be secondary.
So, another conspiracy coming from Ajai Shukla. Supposedly a tank that has been tested since 30 years is suddenly not battleworthy. He is just playing you. He is talking about the failed Catherines and nothing else. They were fixed years ago.easy without crucial systems. worst of all is this -
http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2010/02/t-90-tank-piercing-armys-armour-of.html
now they are spending a whole lot of time upgrading them incrementally adding to cost.
You are talking unit costs while I am talking lifecycle and logistics costs.it is no more cheaper than Arjun. may be equal or more.
Exactly and the reason is as simple as logistics and doctrine. Heck who wouldn't want the Abrams if it was affordable.point does not arise because that was never on the plate.
That sabotage accusation is also not proven. It was just claimed by DRDO. Fixing a black box does not prove there was sabotage. Winter trials are always difficult and failure cannot be tolerated. There were engine troubles reported during the trials and according to Ray sir they have been fixed.i have never spoken about kickbacks. as for conspiracy (as in sabotage), i have given proper links.
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