Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT)

[Damian]

Thanks Dejawolf, this explains everything.

 

[Dejawolf]

No goose shit dimension less, scale less drawing ,

Got it?

the drawings were scaled, and dimensions were provided. where is YOUR scaled drawings? nowhere.

 

[Dejawolf]

Gathering Military information on Active Military vehicles without proper authorization is restricted If not War then foreign agents getting Ideas of copying it, About My home land India which is not at peace and we are in proper cold-war with one and Arm race with another..

You figure the rest..

well, if you're in a cold war arms race, you should keep your stuff secret, and not post multiple pictures of the tank both from inside and outside, for pakistanis and chinese to pick up and measure, as well as pictures and information about Kanchan composite armour. the chinese and pakistanis have defense analysts who are better at estimating armour thickness than me, damian and Militarista are ever going to be.
on another note, if you want a sharpened knife, you need a grinder. and there's no grinder better than criticism.

 

[Akim]

well, if you're in a cold war arms race, you should keep your stuff secret, and not post multiple pictures of the tank both from inside and outside, for pakistanis and chinese to pick up and measure, as well as pictures and information about Kanchan composite armour. the chinese and pakistanis have defense analysts who are better at estimating armour thickness than me, damian and Militarista are ever going to be.

Do you think that the "neighbors" do not know all the options of the tank. Don't be ridiculous. . Now all the secrets are in the technology and not the size.

 

[Damian]

Do you think that the "neighbors" do not know all the options of the tank. Don't be ridiculous. . Now all the secrets are in the technology and not the size.

This is exactly what Dejawolf said.

 

[Dejawolf]

Do you think that the "neighbors" do not know all the options of the tank. Don't be ridiculous. . Now all the secrets are in the technology and not the size.

the technology is far from secret... most armies nowadays struggle to keep up with home computer technology due to the stringent testing regimes, and ruggedness requirements of the army. often the technology in the tanks are years behind whats out on the civilian market, and sometimes decades.
for example, 5-6 years ago, the battlefield management system on the leopardo 2E was built on windows NT.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Your message is not about criticism or spy but you have issues with the measurement i have given you, and you have disagreement, it is your issue so does the rest ..

I have given all the inputs from Internet and what is open to general public, Perhaps Internet should be ban according to your view ?

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Carry on & dont bother to reply dont have time for replys..

1.well, if you're in a cold war arms race, you should keep your stuff secret, and not post multiple pictures of the tank both from inside and outside, for pakistanis and chinese to pick up and measure,

2. if you want a sharpened knife, you need a grinder. and there's no grinder better than criticism.

 

[Akim]

the technology is far from secret... most armies nowadays struggle to keep up with home computer technology due to the stringent testing regimes, and ruggedness requirements of the army.

Why then Chinese design worse than the originals?

 

[Dejawolf]

Your message is not about criticism or spy but you have issues with the measurement i have given you, and you have disagreement, it is your issue so does the rest ..

I have given all the inputs from Internet and what is open to general public, Perhaps Internet should be ban according to your view ?

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Carry on & dont bother to reply dont have time for replys..

i have issues with your measurements because you haven't provided any images or clues about how you arrived on these measurements.

as for the comment about keeping things secret, it's a critiscism leveled on the indian army. the iranian army has had their own indigenous zulfiqar tank in development for quite some time, and it's virtually impossible to know anything about it for certain, due to general lack of images and such.

 

[average american]

well, if you're in a cold war arms race, you should keep your stuff secret, and not post multiple pictures of the tank both from inside and outside, for pakistanis and chinese to pick up and measure, as well as pictures and information about Kanchan composite armour. the chinese and pakistanis have defense analysts who are better at estimating armour thickness than me, damian and Militarista are ever going to be.
on another note, if you want a sharpened knife, you need a grinder. and there's no grinder better than criticism.

Kind of hard to keep T72 tanks and Mig 29s secret when you can buy them on the internet.
US uses a lot of Russian Tanks for target practice.

http://www.military.com/video/comba...an-tank-used-as-target-practice/663193975001/

 

[militarysta]

Anyone can compare Arjun interior space arragment whit Leoaprd-2A4 one.
Sorry for polish descripsion.

Tank Commander - Front:

rear:

Gunner:

Loader front:

Loader rear:

For polish "three letters" services (ABW, WSI, etc): Found on polish PWM forum - i'd never post part of official manuals.
(znaleźione na forum PWM - nie moje hostowanie.)

 

[Akim]

Kind of hard to keep T72 tanks and Mig 29s secret when you can buy them on the internet.
US uses a lot of Russian Tanks for target practice.

Get one military unit equipment is not difficult. To get the documentation on it, it is considered the highest achievement of the spy.

 

[Damian]

Get one military unit equipment is not difficult. To get the documentation on it, it is considered the highest achievement of the spy.

I agree, documentation is mostly more important than specific weapon system itself.

For example Chiese, they are trying to make copys of Russian jet engines and fail, simply because making direct copy of purchased engine is not that easy without documentation. And documentation is mostly keep in some isolated archieve, it is probably also immposible to stole it via internet because documentation is kept on paper or on isolated HDD.

 

[STGN]

All this talk about width heres some height instead:

seems like road wheels are ~62 cm in diameter.
Its kinda funny that the tank is 3.2m high.
STGN

 

[Kunal Biswas]

MBT Arjun | Defence Research and Development Organisation

 

[Defcon 1]

So neither of you guys were correct. At least this wraps up the discussion now.

 

[Apollyon]

All this talk about width heres some height instead:
seems like road wheels are ~62 cm in diameter.
Its kinda funny that the tank is 3.2m high.
STGN

Hahaha
You're way of the mark dude, a full 38.66% as the height is 2.32m not 3.2m as you stated.
How much more weirder can this discussion get.

 

[STGN]

Hahaha
You're way of the mark dude, a full 38.66% as the height is 2.32m not 3.2m as you stated.
How much more weirder can this discussion get.

You are right, thats a brain fart on my part the number on the picture is wrong it should have said 2.32 that is what the other numbers are calculated from.
STGN

 

[STGN]

Heres how the picture should have looked, thats what you get for posting in the middle of the night.

STGN

 

[Dejawolf]

So neither of you guys were correct. At least this wraps up the discussion now.

heh. instead of measuring the arjun turret, i used the pixel measuring methods on the abrams tank.
for this tank, i know the real measures.
real turret roof width is 240cm, hull width is 366cm

off by ~2.2cm...
also keep in mind this turret is a lot more difficult to measure than the arjun turret, since it doesn't have those straight turret sides,
and in this picture there's also the issue of the skirt width being partially obscured, and difficult to pinpoint.