Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

[Apollyon]

Deleted (posted info for 125mm Round instead of 120mm)

 

[Shaitan]

Wrong.

 

[Apollyon]

This is the FSAPDS Mk-I developed by DRDO for Arjun Mk-I
Also according to very reliable poster from BR -

DRDO 120mm Mk-T-2

DRDO has also developed the Mk-2 version of its earlier 120mm round for Arjun tank.

A Must Read: Perspective: Indian Tank Ammunition Scenario -KE Penetrators

 

[Apollyon]

it seems to be for the parade only, looks like a hollow metal cavity, it is filling the space earlier covered by the box as you mentioned, to make it streamlined with K-5 ERA plates.

The ERA on Arjun Mk-II is indigenously developed by DRDO and is not K-5. If you have any source that says different please do share but till then do refrain from posting wrong info.

If DRDO had imported K-5 from Russia they would have told us unlike Paki's who pass on licensed Chinese system as 'indigenous' to fool the illiterate Paki Awam

:der::der:

 

[Dazzler]

The ERA on Arjun Mk-II is indigenously developed by DRDO and is not K-5. If you have any source that says different please do share but till then do refrain from posting wrong info.

If DRDO had imported K-5 from Russia they would have told us unlike Paki's who pass on licensed Chinese system as 'indigenous' to fool the illiterate Paki Awam


:der::der:

Yes they have imported it from Russia, otherwise this new ERA would be on DRDO site.

dimensions/thickness etc are same as a K-5 plate, source for this being "indigenous"

 

[Dazzler]

This is the FSAPDS Mk-I developed by DRDO for Arjun Mk-I
Also according to very reliable poster from BR -


A Must Read: Perspective: Indian Tank Ammunition Scenario -KE Penetrators

its a blog, where the autor mentions weak points of indian apfsds and then compare the scenario with other apfsds rounds friends. The data is rather well known.

 

[Dazzler]

do you have any answer to 6+ km LAHAT with non line of sight, BTW CLGM is modified LAHAT with heavy warhead. What do you have to say for that, what is the max range of engagement of Al khalid or T80UD ? Please also post if the missile on both are beam rider or firing for non line of sight.

answer is simple, HEAT rounds (lahat, invar, kombat etc) are not meant to kill multilayered composite armour, this can be achieved by an apfsds round only.

Thats why we see more development of apfsds rounds than other tank ammunition, a penetrator can put a tank through hell IF the penetrator has sufficient penetration ability which comes through several factors i.e. the lenth/diameter of penetrator rod, quality of material used, tungsten, DU, steel, and muzzle velocity etc.

 

[Apollyon]

Yes they have imported it from Russia, otherwise this new ERA would be on DRDO site.

dimensions/thickness etc are same as a K-5 plate, source for this being "indigenous"

Typical Paki

PS: Not all latest developments by DRDO are being mentioned in press nowdays.

 

[mehrotraprince]

its a blog, where the autor mentions weak points of indian apfsds and then compare the scenario with other apfsds rounds friends. The data is rather well known.

FSAPDS/T 1A

Type of ammunition----------------Fixed SCCC
Muzzle velocity----------------------1650 m/s and above
Round length------------------------940 mm
Round mass-------------------------20 kg
Consistency--------------------------0.20 mil

Two types of ammunition, namely, Fin Stabilised Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot (FSAPDS) and High Explosive Squash Head (HESH) have been fully developed and productionised for MBT Arjun.

120 Millimetre MBT Arjun Armament System

Since blogs are not considered as reliable source hence provide me a reliable study source where weak points of Indian FSAPDS are mentioned after comprehensive trials with respect to other foreign made FSAPDS.

 

[Dazzler]

Typical Paki

PS: Not all latest developments by DRDO are being mentioned in press nowdays.

Insulting will not help your cause mate.

K-5 on on t-90...

on Arjun mk2

 

[Dazzler]

120 Millimetre MBT Arjun Armament System

Since blogs are not considered as reliable source hence provide me a reliable study source where weak points of Indian FSAPDS are mentioned after comprehensive trials with respect to other foreign made FSAPDS.

weakest part is its penetration value i.e. 300 mm at 0 deg @ 2000 m.

 

[mehrotraprince]

weakest part is its penetration value i.e. 300 mm at 0 deg @ 2000 m.

Kindly provide me a reliable source for those figures, that will help me a lot.

 

[Dazzler]

Kindly provide me a reliable source for those figures, that will help me a lot.

Estimated frontal composite armour cover of t-80ud between 600-700 mm, without ERA, add ERA and you get 1000-1100 mm armour against apfsds. Where does the Arjun apfsds with 300 mm penetration stand here?

 

[Twinblade]

Yes they have imported it from Russia, otherwise this new ERA would be on DRDO site.

dimensions/thickness etc are same as a K-5 plate, source for this being "indigenous"

From MoD report 2012

 

[mehrotraprince]

Estimated frontal composite armour cover of t-80ud between 600-700 mm, without ERA, add ERA and you get 1000-1100 mm armour against apfsds. Where does the Arjun apfsds with 300 mm penetration stand here?

Arjun is not based on T-80UD.

Arjun's FSAPDS penetration value is 5000 mm, now prove this figure wrong and don't ask for source since you too are picking figures from thin air without any source.

For healthy discussion its always good to give figures with source or discussion loses its value.

So first provide me a source where it says that penetration value of Arjun's FSAPDS is only 300 mm.

 

[Apollyon]

From MoD report 2012

Maybe now this Paki can stop embarrassing himself .

 

[Dazzler]

Arjun is not based on T-80UD.

Arjun's FSAPDS penetration value is 5000 mm, now prove this figure wrong and don't ask for source since you too are picking figures from thin air without any source.

For healthy discussion its always good to give figures with source or discussion loses its value.

So first provide me a source where it says that penetration value of Arjun's FSAPDS is only 300 mm.

you didnt get the point..

offcourse it is not based on t-80ud who said it is?

the 5000 m is the TOTAL range that the round can cover, however, the standard estimated penetration is usually calculated for 2000 m, The longer the round travels, the less the penetration.

from DRDO, i posted it two pages ago

 

[militarysta]

So first provide me a source where it says that penetration value of Arjun's FSAPDS is only 300 mm.

Plenty of them:

Can be?

 

[Dazzler]

Maybe now this Paki can stop embarrassing himself .

This the K-1 based DRDO ERA that has been arnound for quite a while, NOT the one equipped on Arjun mk2

EXPLOSIVE REACTIVE ARMOUR

 

[ladder]

Maybe now this Paki can stop embarrassing himself .

Yes weird logic.

Because it looks like K5 it must be like K5, wow!
All Assault Rifle that looks like AK are AK and made by Iszmash even Dara made one.:thumb:
Because it's not posted on website it's not there. What an argument.

The confirmation of Israel nukes aren't available on their website. So, that means they aren't present. Isn't it?