Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

[Dazzler]

Mark 3 will be amazing....

without decent ammo, i doub it.

 

[Shaitan]

without decent ammo, i doub it.

It's not something India cant produce.

By the time MBT 2020, Mark 3 goes on. Parallel ammo developments will take place.

 

[Dazzler]

It's not something India cant produce.

By the time MBT 2020, Mark 3 goes on. Parallel ammo developments will take place.

i hope so, but so far they havent produced one on a decent level.

 

[Shaitan]

i hope so, but so far they havent produced one on a decent level.

If India can produce SLBMs, test their own BVRAAMs from their SUs in a month, and have nuclear submarines in sea trials.... Tank ammo shouldn't be overly complicated.

 

[Dazzler]

If India can produce SLBMs, test their own BVRAAMs from their SUs in a month, and have nuclear submarines in sea trials.... Tank ammo shouldn't be overly complicated.

it is the issue, making an apfsds-t is by no means easy, ask OFB engneers.



i stand corrected, the penetration value is not 320 but 300mm at 2000 m

 

[Shaitan]

it is the issue, making an apfsds-t is by no means easy, ask OFB engneers.



i stand corrected, the penetration value is not 320 but 300mm at 2000 m

This thing was developed waaaay back in the days.

You can even see it with one of the old prototypes.

Im sure they can produce ones that are decent.

 

[Dazzler]

if Arjun gives up rifled gun for a smoothbore, it will have plenty of options to choose from, hint KEWxx

 

[Dazzler]

This thing was developed waaaay back in the days.

You can even see it with one of the old prototypes.

Im sure they can produce ones that are decent.

it still is the same round,

http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/ammunition/lc/23.htm

 

[militarysta]

Im crusious if DRDO or indian industry even developed now better APFSDS for Arjun, and T-72/90?
It shoud be logical.

 

[Shaitan]

it still is the same round,

Ordnance Factory Board

I know, they should've developed further, better ones.

But only thing in the works right now is cannon launched missiles.

 

[militarysta]

I know, they should've developed further, better ones.

Looking on this forum posts this thinking is present for many (IMHO to many) time.

As I understand Indian Army bought super-expensive now 3BM42 from Russia? And Arjun "new" 120mm APFSDS is not ended or even tested yet?

 

[Shaitan]

Looking on this forum posts this thinking is present for many (IMHO to many) time.

As I understand Indian Army bought super-expensive now 3BM42 from Russia? And Arjun "new" 120mm APFSDS is not ended or even tested yet?

I dont think there is a "new" one.

 

[militarysta]

I dont think there is a "new" one.

pity.......

 

[Dazzler]

OFB's current 120 mm apfsds equals this only..

POF 100mm apfsds-t

Penetration 300mm against RHA target at zero obiliquity, conforming to DEF-STAN 95-13/2
Packing
Each round placed in a chipboard container and further packed in a wooden box:
Size of box 121.6 x 23.2 x 27 cm
Weight of box 42 kg
Colour & marking Service brown with yellow/white stencilling

 

[Shaitan]

PXE, Chandipur
Lt Gen SH Kulkarni, AVSM, VSM, DG Mechanised
Forces, visited Proof and Experimental Establishment
(PXE), Chandipur, on 2 December 2013. He was briefed
about various test and evaluation activities of PXE,
particulars pertaining to tank ammunition and armour.
Live performance of Arjun thermobaric ammunition was
also demonstrated to the visiting dignitary.

http://drdo.gov.in/drdo/pub/newsletter/2014/feb_14.pdf

What are they talking about?

 

[Dazzler]

http://drdo.gov.in/drdo/pub/newsletter/2014/feb_14.pdf

What are they talking about?

high explosive ammunition, probably a HE-AT or HE-FS round

 

[sayareakd]

I mentioned "possible" scenarios where mbts might see each other at longer distances, HEAT may well come into equation.

On apfsds, IMI screwed OFB big time in apfsds development, shells were below standard, several issues with propellant charge, and then IMI got blacklisted.

On shtora, IIRC, Russia wanted a separate contract signed which India refused.

do you have any answer to 6+ km LAHAT with non line of sight, BTW CLGM is modified LAHAT with heavy warhead. What do you have to say for that, what is the max range of engagement of Al khalid or T80UD ? Please also post if the missile on both are beam rider or firing for non line of sight.

 

[sayareakd]

OFB's current 120 mm apfsds equals this only..

POF 100mm apfsds-t

for Pakistan 40 mm round is enough...................

 

[sayareakd]

in few versions they should put this DRDO counter IED laser on RCWS

and miniature version of the landmine detection radar

 

[Apollyon]

Deleted (posted info for 125mm Round instead of 120mm)