AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

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What's actually happening with AMCA, it is said only systems level cdr is completed but not the whole airframe that's the reason the CCS approval has been given. If this is the case, how can we blame the ministry if Ada can't get their act right?. Also note that kf-21 doesn't have an internal bay hence the program ran fast. I think its not easy to add Internal weapons bay to an airframe that easily
 

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What's actually happening with AMCA, it is said only systems level cdr is completed but not the whole airframe that's the reason the CCS approval has been given. If this is the case, how can we blame the ministry if Ada can't get their act right?. Also note that kf-21 doesn't have an internal bay hence the program ran fast. I think its not easy to add Internal weapons bay to an airframe that easily
program never got a boost as Govt never pushed the boots inside all the players involved…
Import lobby as always played its part and for now is happy and lusting for 5th Gen Imports
 

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program never got a boost as Govt never pushed the boots inside all the players involved…
Import lobby as always played its part and for now is happy and lusting for 5th Gen Imports
Whole of the Indian system,arrangements and its institutions have no concept of “consequences if not delivered” . Don’t know how to improve it or is it even redeemable?
 

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All hot air until the budget for prototype development and fabrication is sanctioned. 3+ years of this "approval soon™".
now this is becoming more of a joke and burden on IAF and tax payers. even hearing about this design completion for many years.

in 2019 ada chief said they successfully tackled design of the amca and first flight target is 2024. :pound: after that dont know what they were doing for last 4 years

Just sell the country out to the US and buy 20 F35s already to fight the China man's 300 J-20s.:yawn:
These chai-biscoot scientists and import lobby work hand in hand indirectly.
 

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That's not even a joke .
Seriously? What is the admin of HAL's twitter page doing? All this kind of stuff would be something that my higher secondary would tweet if we made something like a drone/Quadcopter or in worst case, some shitty paper plane. :pound:this is not something that a professional organisation like HAL would do, I mean HAL is an aerospace company, they are supposed to tweet about plane parts, about metal cutting of AMCA, about Tejas's wind tunnel model, about Sukhois but they are tweeting about making some shitty bench out of scrap parts? I have some scrap wood at my house, should I make a bench and send it to HAL? My offer stands. :hail::scared2::shock::truestory:
 

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Yes he said in his interview on india today with shiv aroor,,, everybody knew one is going to join the deal really reflects our socialist mindset.. it was no way benefiting the capitalist who.was gonna invest in it. We're trying to keep it as cheap as possible, thinking that it should benefit more to government rather than investor because of which no private players has interest in it.. why would they invest in it !
we want there investments but don't want to give them enought profits...
He also said amca will fly in 4.5 years and development of subsystems & key technology is going good..
 
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Only positive and optimistic news from RKS sir's interview was that ADA is looking for '5 year plan for roll out' of 1st prototype, by looking at metal cutting timeline and other subsystem tender, it looks possible that 1st non-flying prototype can be launched by 2027 end.
 

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Here we go.. thats the current status. What is the defence minister doing? a project of national importance should move on. Why cant they make AMCA PPP enough juicy like Air India for private secyor to show interest?
Suit boots don't want to take risks.
They want the very rare category of low risk but big profit ventures.

You see the Tata Kestrel/DRDO WhAp, kya hua uska? Uniformed and suited-booted dalals are now lusting after Stryker.

It pains me to say this, but our nation will face a humiliating defeat at war and only then will GoI awaken out of it's stupor and take all the necessary steps viz purging dalals, applying the stick to PSU Defense product manufacturers and giving the needed funding for the "infrastructure" necessary for testing atmanirbhar items like jet engines.

Imported maal dalals, lazy PSU Defence companies and chindi govt avoiding defense spending increase are all a terrible combination.
 

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why he thinks discussions haven’t ‘gone well’,

I think one of the reasons is that the discussions so far have been kind of preliminary in nature, an explorative kind of discussion.

I think ADA has had one big session with industry. This needs to be moved forward. An important issue is how you approach this. The starting point needs to be that an SPV is a must and therefore we need to choose a partner
.”

ADA: anyone want to build this shit .

industry: ...

ADA: alrighty then

i think all these people are gandhian , plan is to use nonviolent resistance against PLA , pak army.
 

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Suit boots don't want to take risks.
They want the very rare category of low risk but big profit ventures.

You see the Tata Kestrel/DRDO WhAp, kya hua uska? Uniformed and suited-booted dalals are now lusting after Stryker.

It pains me to say this, but our nation will face a humiliating defeat at war and only then will GoI awaken out of it's stupor and take all the necessary steps viz purging dalals, applying the stick to PSU Defense product manufacturers and giving the needed funding for the "infrastructure" necessary for testing atmanirbhar items like jet engines.

Imported maal dalals, lazy PSU Defence companies and chindi govt avoiding defense spending increase are all a terrible combination.
Fully agreed. I have said multiple times, we are just waiting for Abhinandan v2.0 and I am not sure if our brave pilots will be able to save the day again for Bharat.
 

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why he thinks discussions haven’t ‘gone well’,

I think one of the reasons is that the discussions so far have been kind of preliminary in nature, an explorative kind of discussion.

I think ADA has had one big session with industry. This needs to be moved forward. An important issue is how you approach this. The starting point needs to be that an SPV is a must and therefore we need to choose a partner
.”

ADA: anyone want to build this shit .

industry: ...

ADA: alrighty then

i think all these people are gandhian , plan is to use nonviolent resistance against PLA , pak army.
:frusty::frusty: My blood boils hearing such situation of the forces. A civilization with 800 years of slavery did not learn from mistakes.

Modi must understand another Xitler is rising in the north and it is do or die situation.
 

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