AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[Bhartiya Sainik]

Did you pass underwater trials?
And what about hopping in Himalayas trials? You passed it right?

While quickly scrolling for updates, I misread the sentence as "Did u pass underwear trials?"

 

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[Sukrut]

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Approval process initiated for prototype design? I thought they started metal cutting already and recently leading edge fabrication has also started. Is ADA funding the initial stage of the project considering the babus in MoD and finance would take their own sweet time funding a nut?

 

[Love Charger]

Approval process initiated for prototype design? I thought they started metal cutting already and recently leading edge fabrication has also started. Is ADA funding the initial stage of the project considering the babus in MoD and finance would take their own sweet time funding a nut?

Isn't metal cutting part of prototype development

 

[flanker99]

Approval process initiated for prototype design? I thought they started metal cutting already and recently leading edge fabrication has also started. Is ADA funding the initial stage of the project considering the babus in MoD and finance would take their own sweet time funding a nut?

Yes or probably part of the initial funding thats released at the completion of a milestone in the project

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Brahmos is too big to even carried by any 5 th gen bird

Mini Brahmos with 1.2 ton weight and 4.5 mach speed and 400 to 450 km range is in making. Forget about initial brahmos with 2.5 tons of weight.

 

[Lonewolf]

Mini Brahmos with 1.2 ton weight and 4.5 mach speed and 400 to 450 km range is in making. Forget about initial brahmos with 2.5 tons of weight.

That too included

 

[Dark Sorrow]

Brahmos is too big to even carried by any 5 th gen bird

Bigger question is why you wish to carry Brahmos on 5th Generation aircraft.
Carrying such a huge missile negates all advantages of a 5th Generation aircraft.
Its much better to carry Brahmos on a cheaper bomb-truck like MKI.

 

[MonaLazy]

why you wish to carry Brahmos on 5th Generation aircraft.

In the opening stages of war, how to carry out precision strikes on well defended hardened enemy bases deep in his territory where his top notch assets would be bulked up? At this stage air dominance has not been achieved- sending in MKI+Brahmos combo is not worth it as it will light up on all enemy radars with a good possibility of being shot down before it gets anywhere near its target.

Brahmos by itself is just speed, not stealth- if DGISPR is to be believed (arguably questionable) they could track it all the way from start to finish.

If we use AMCA+SANT/Rudram/PGMs/LGBs type A2G weapon (much smaller warhead & range & speed & less manueverable) we may need multiple missiles/sorties to inflict the same damage- putting the aircraft & pilot at risk each time.

 

[THESIS THORON]

In the opening stages of war, how to carry out precision strikes on well defended hardened enemy infra deep in his territory where his top notch assets would be bulked up? At this stage air dominance has not been achieved- sending in MKI+Brahmos combo is not worth it as it will light up on all enemy radars with a good possibility of being shot down before it gets anywhere near its target.

Brahmos by itself is just speed, not stealth- if DGISPR is to be believed (arguably questionable) they could track it all the way from start to finish.

If we use AMCA+SANT/Rudram/PGMs/LGBs type A2G weapon (much smaller warhead & range & speed & less manueverable) we may need multiple missiles/sorties to inflict the same damage- putting the aircraft & pilot at risk each time.

iwb cant carry such a beast of missile.

that's why range extension program for brahmos alcm

 

[MonaLazy]

iwb cant carry such a beast of missile.

that's why range extension program for brahmos alcm

ALCM will be tracked all the way. We need something that hits them deep without them getting to know where it came from. Brahmos NG + AMCA is the answer.

Dr Sudhir K Mishra, Director General, BrahMos, DRDO and CEO & MD of BrahMos Aerospace said, “Every product needs to evolve, so BrahMos will be undergoing evolution. There will be smaller version of the missile for smaller aircraft – like Light Combat Aircraft Mk 2 and AMCA and other aircraft across the globe.”

https://www.financialexpress.com/defence/brahmosshort-range-ramjet-supersonic-cruise-missile-to-now-come-in-smaller-version/2187760/

 

[THESIS THORON]

ALCM will be tracked all the way. We need something that hits them deep without them getting to know where it came from. Brahmos NG + AMCA is the answer.

https://www.financialexpress.com/defence/brahmosshort-range-ramjet-supersonic-cruise-missile-to-now-come-in-smaller-version/2187760/

I wish they increase the terminal speed to near hypersonic in brahmos ng

 

[Dark Sorrow]

In the opening stages of war, how to carry out precision strikes on well defended hardened enemy bases deep in his territory where his top notch assets would be bulked up? At this stage air dominance has not been achieved- sending in MKI+Brahmos combo is not worth it as it will light up on all enemy radars with a good possibility of being shot down before it gets anywhere near its target.

Brahmos by itself is just speed, not stealth- if DGISPR is to be believed (arguably questionable) they could track it all the way from start to finish.

If we use AMCA+SANT/Rudram/PGMs/LGBs type A2G weapon (much smaller warhead & range & speed & less manueverable) we may need multiple missiles/sorties to inflict the same damage- putting the aircraft & pilot at risk each time.

AMCA will also light up in enemy radar if it carries Brahmos. Stealth, good EW and autonomous operation are primary features of AMCA. AMCA will be tied up in anti-air operations and SEAD/DEAD missions.
Brahmos is suppose to have 800 km range in future. Even 400 km range is good enough taking in account how shallow is Pakistan. That is a good stand-off distance to successfully engage enemy.

Most of AMCA's strike operation will we be smart precision-guided mission like SEAD and DEAD operations where munitions like SAAW, PGM (Sudarshan, HSLD, Nag), NGARM. AMCA won't be used to target hardened targets. We even posses surface launched Brahmos if needed.

 

[Lonewolf]

AMCA will also light up in enemy radar if it carries Brahmos. Stealth, good EW and autonomous operation are primary features of AMCA. AMCA will be tied up in anti-air operations and SEAD/DEAD missions.
Brahmos is suppose to have 800 km range in future. Even 400 km range is good enough taking in account how shallow is Pakistan. That is a good stand-off distance to successfully engage enemy.

Most of AMCA's strike operation will we be smart precision-guided mission like SEAD and DEAD operations where munitions like SAAW, PGM (Sudarshan, HSLD, Nag), NGARM. AMCA won't be used to target hardened targets. We even posses surface launched Brahmos if needed.

How about we develop a stealth missile from ground up which glide for few kms then ignite motors and travel few hundred kms to reach target ,ki d of like SAAW concept but missile should be extremely stealthy

 

[Blademaster]

Just make Brahmos a stealthy long range cruise missile for the most part of the journey and when it gets near to the target accelerate to near the transonic speed threshold and no missile or aircraft can ever intercept it and the reaction time window would be too small to do anything about it. No need for the AMCA to carry it. It would be carried by MKIs or C-130s that can fire those missiles at a standoff range.

 

[Lonewolf]

Just make Brahmos a stealthy long range cruise missile for the most part of the journey and when it gets near to the target accelerate to near the transonic speed threshold and no missile or aircraft can ever intercept it and the reaction time window would be too small to do anything about it. No need for the AMCA to carry it. It would be carried by MKIs or C-130s that can fire those missiles at a standoff range.

How ? U can't change basic aerodynamic shape of brahmos to make it stealthy ,best bet are fairing covering it to make it stealthy but that would add load to a bulkier missile , a totally new missile should be developed

 

[Blademaster]

How ? U can't change basic aerodynamic shape of brahmos to make it stealthy ,best bet are fairing covering it to make it stealthy but that would add load to a bulkier missile , a totally new missile should be developed

Or make a stealthy drone that can carry the missile and fire it when it gets in range.

 

[Lonewolf]

Or make a stealthy drone that can carry the missile and fire it when it gets in range.

GHATAK UCAV (or its new name ) is the drone

 

[THESIS THORON]

GHATAK UCAV (or its new name ) is the drone

But it cant carry a brahmos ig .

 

[THESIS THORON]

GHATAK UCAV (or its new name ) is the drone

rollout and first flight kab hai ?