AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[Bleh]

Reports on Malaysian fighter jet tender: Tejas in, JF-17 out

The Malaysian press reports that six jets are participating in the country's light combat aircraft tender – and the Pakistani-Chinese JF-17 is not among them.

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Heard their Project Azm 5th gen fighter has gone down the shitters too... Can we pleas copy this now to AMCA.

 

[FalconZero]

Heard their Project Azm 5th gen fighter has gone down the shitters too... Can we pleas copy this now to AMCA.

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canards? why?
Also, was that design an actual design of azm?

It looks similar to the latest version of AMCA but with canards and a different canopy/frontal section.

 

[UnderFingy]

canards? why?
Also, was that design an actual design of azm?

It looks similar to the latest version of AMCA but with canards.

Because abbu ki J20 has it.

 

[FalconZero]

Because abbu ki J20 has it.

Yeah that's why i asked, since didn't the canards were one of the reason why stealth was compromised for j20 and why would you want that for AMCA unless bleh is trying some hidden joke then nvm.

 

[UnderFingy]

Yeah that's why i asked, since didn't the canards were one of the reason why stealth was compromised for j20 and why would you want that for AMCA unless bleh is trying some hidden joke then nvm.

I think it was a reference to a post by Paki exfart who said AMCA was copied or something.

 

[Bleh]

Yeah that's why i asked, since didn't the canards were one of the reason why stealth was compromised for j20 and why would you want that for AMCA unless bleh is trying some hidden joke then nvm.

No no, not joking. Junk-20 canards are neither edge-aligned nor hedraly aligned, that's why they aren't stealthy.
If your design is not-shit then a canard is no different from a tail. It's a myth ...& some classic murican misinfo!

AMCA had great area-ruling, but it's really a strike & snipe aircraft. I doubt it can match an ORCA or Rafale, in A2A performance. MWF is a very strike oriented aircraft (that extra-close coupled canard like La'vi & Kfir is for facilitating that only). I thought AMCA should be different.

 

[Vamsi]

No no, not joking. Junk-20 canards are neither edge-aligned nor hedraly aligned, that's why they aren't stealthy.
If your design is not-shit then a canard is no different from a tail. It's a myth ...& some classic murican misinfo!

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AMCA had great area-ruling, but it's really a strike & snipe aircraft. I doubt it can match an ORCA or Rafale, in A2A performance. MWF is a very strike oriented aircraft (that extra-close coupled canard like La'vi & Kfir is for facilitating that only). I thought AMCA should be different.

So, u mean AMCA is a sniper with very long range SFDR based BVR and MWF is a bomb truck and Teddy and it's AF version are true multi role aircrafts?

 

[Vamsi]

No no, not joking. Junk-20 canards are neither edge-aligned nor hedraly aligned, that's why they aren't stealthy.
If your design is not-shit then a canard is no different from a tail. It's a myth ...& some classic murican misinfo!

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AMCA had great area-ruling, but it's really a strike & snipe aircraft. I doubt it can match an ORCA or Rafale, in A2A performance. MWF is a very strike oriented aircraft (that extra-close coupled canard like La'vi & Kfir is for facilitating that only). I thought AMCA should be different.

Then add a IWB and twin tail to Teddy's Mk-2 version and make it a stealth bird

 

[Bleh]

Then add a IWB and twin tail to Teddy's Mk-2 version and make it a stealth bird

Not that simple.. They make it semi-stealth. Going to stealth from that is hard.

Adding IWB & serpentine-intakes to Teddy will be difficult than the other way round for AMCA.

So, u mean AMCA is a sniper with very long range SFDR based BVR and MWF is a bomb truck and Teddy and it's AF version are true multi role aircrafts?

Accurate... That's my understanding rn.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

Is TEDBF vertical fail fin and Tejas like delta wings compatible with stealth?

Chinks have recently showcased a carrier compatible version of their J-31 with folded wings. The same can be acheived by Navalizing AMCA design. But the problem lies in its limited payload capabilities and unsuitable aerodynamics with carrier operations. The Navy rejected N-AMCA on such grounds. Will they show interest in such projects in the future? Time will tell.

 

[Ikariyasan]

No no, not joking. Junk-20 canards are neither edge-aligned nor hedraly aligned, that's why they aren't stealthy.
If your design is not-shit then a canard is no different from a tail. It's a myth ...& some classic murican misinfo!

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AMCA had great area-ruling, but it's really a strike & snipe aircraft. I doubt it can match an ORCA or Rafale, in A2A performance. MWF is a very strike oriented aircraft (that extra-close coupled canard like La'vi & Kfir is for facilitating that only). I thought AMCA should be different.

Sorry for bumping this thread when I have nothing to contribute. I am just a layperson/fanboy. With a better T:W ratio & TVC would AMCA Mk2 be any better in this regard?

 

[shiphone]

LOL...so called 'aligned ' things....very very old topic.

 

[Bleh]

Sorry for bumping this thread when I have nothing to contribute. I am just a layperson/fanboy. With a better T:W ratio & TVC would AMCA Mk2 be any better in this regard?

It should be.. But expect other factors. Like MWF has same T/W ratio as LCA due to increments.

I won't be surprised if AMCA Mk2 is larger.

LOL...so called 'aligned ' things....very very old topic.

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Yea that's what I'm saying, very old news that it's not.

Frontally canards are dihedral, so absolutely not... 8 signature producer fins compared to 4 of F-22/35. Go eat your bat-penis soup. (Indians don't get too happy, neither is our AMCA.. We both have had different priorities)

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

I won't be surprised if AMCA Mk2 is larger.

They can't pull a Hornet-> SuperHornet or an LCA->MWF conversion of AMCA now, can they?

 

[Bleh]

They can't pull a Hornet-> SuperHornet or an LCA->MWF conversion of AMCA now, can they?

They might. I dunno. Hard to tell at this point. Undecided.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

They might. I dunno. Hard to tell at this point. Undecided.

Be better to go for a 6th gen Heavy Air Dominance Fighter design post-2030. FSED for that can begin by 2040. Service entry by 2050. Other than that, churn out TEDBFs and AMCAs like sausages (as much as OPEX allows) to get through 2040s unscathed.

 

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[Lonewolf]

Prototype phase beginning soon

 

[FalconSlayers]

Prototype phase beginning soon

It’s not for proto

 

[Lonewolf]

It’s not for proto

1:1 model ,but after that prototype phase will begin , that's why I said soon