AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[Prashant12]

#AMCA 3 models to be displayed during #AeroIndia2017, says @DRDO_India

 

[hardip]

India to make stealth fighter
DECCAN CHRONICLE. | A RAGU RAMAN
Published Jan 4, 2017, 1:51 am IST
Updated Jan 4, 2017, 1:51 am IST

TIRUPATI: With the induction of light combat aircraft (LCA) Tejas into the Indian Air Force this year, the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) which has jointly developed the fourth generation aircraft with Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), is now ready to develop the stealth fighter aircraft. “The concept and feasibility study for the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) has completed and submitted to the government. We are awaiting the government’s approval to develop prototype vehicles (PVs),” P.Ramachandra, director, admin and planning, Aeronautical Development Agency told this newspaper on the sidelines of the Indian Science Congress.

It is designed to be the 25-tonne class aircraft whereas the Tejas is weighing only about 10 tonnes. It will have the range of 2,800 km. “The aircraft will have many stealth features for evading radars and it will have twin-engines,” he said. This was envisioned as a replacement for the British Jaguar and Mirage 2000 which the IAF flies.

According to defence experts, the stealth fighter would be of great help during the initial days of a major war as it will allow the air force to target enemy’s infrastructure such as roads, railways, airfields, radars, headquarters and depots. The Aeronautical Development Agency also plans to showcase the model in the upcoming Aero India exhibition. Indian Air Force ordered 40 Tejas aircraft and 83 LCA Mark-1A aircraft with the HAL. The Air Force also wanted better specifications for LCA Mark-1A like mid-air refuelling and advanced electronic warfare suit.



http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/040117/india-to-make-stealth-fighter.html

ok....................!



BUT..
this ... not Does.. By single handed by India..

target:2035..?!

hmmmmm...ok

Good dream..
but HAL have to think that..
from 1998's MAny Ambitious project still Hang on.. And they r not got any Results..

so plz any buddy.. don't post any kind ... like "..future project of india.."
or "india going to make this" without complete 40+ % <...

thank you..

 

[Indx TechStyle]

target:2035..?!

Around 2025, introduction before end of 2020s decade.

Good dream..

Do you bet?

but HAL have to think that..
from 1998's MAny Ambitious project still Hang on..

Entering the production, yeah, developing a fighter from scratch delayed the project but India has got enough expertise from it for next project.
Next project won't get delayed, India took 10 years for a dud missile but created ICBM in 3 years. From two decades for Dhruv to the collection of helos we have, from a comedy warship building capability to making world's fifth largest destroyers, even in space program, similar stories are there in lot.
India has problem in first attempt, but not later.

And they r not got any Results..

India became world's 6th country to make 4th gen fighter aircraft.

so plz any buddy.. don't post any kind ... like "..future project of india.."

Don't liking it? Don't read it.
Design is coming to public domain this month.

or "india going to make this" without complete 40+ % <...

Specify rest of 60%.
A list of those technologies instead of fairy tell judgements. Can you?

 

[Vijyes]

ok....................!



BUT..
this ... not Does.. By single handed by India..

target:2035..?!

hmmmmm...ok

Good dream..
but HAL have to think that..
from 1998's MAny Ambitious project still Hang on.. And they r not got any Results..

so plz any buddy.. don't post any kind ... like "..future project of india.."
or "india going to make this" without complete 40+ % <...

thank you..

Firstly, Indian per capita GDP was less than Pakistan till 2004. Indian GDP in 1998 was $400 billion and PPP of $2 trillion. 2017 GDP is $2.5 trillion and PPP of $9+ trillion. Indian GDP growth till NDA givt if 1998 was 4%. After Vajpayee, it became 8.4% in 2004. There is a difference between India then and now

 

[Scrutator]

Firstly, Indian per capita GDP was less than Pakistan till 2004. Indian GDP in 1998 was $400 billion and PPP of $2 trillion. 2017 GDP is $2.5 trillion and PPP of $9+ trillion. Indian GDP growth till NDA givt if 1998 was 4%. After Vajpayee, it became 8.4% in 2004. There is a difference between India then and now

The credit actually goes to PV Narasimha Rao, who did the most audacious economic reforms in Indian history - of course the reforms take few years to bear fruit. Unfortunately, because of his tussle with Sonia Gandhi, his legacy has gotten completely buried; Congress (wrongly) attributes credit to Manmohan Singh - who himself has gone on record to state that he just implemented Narasimha Rao's vision, and that any other economist/FinancialExpert could have done the administrative job he did under Narasimha Rao's leadership.

That said, Vajpayee was also an incomparable leader and statesman in his own stead. Despite being in the opposition he was actually best buddies with Narasimha Rao. He supported Narasimha Rao's reforms even when several in Congress opposed Rao.

The Nuclear tests was also tee'd up by Narasimha Rao, who upon losing the election to Vajpayee told him that the first thing he needs to do is to complete the tests that're under advanced stage of preparation!

India is what it is today because of the two best leaders the country ever had - Narasimha Rao & Vajpayee (true patriots and exceptional leaders!)!!!!

 

[Vijyes]

The credit actually goes to PV Narasimha Rao, who did the most audacious economic reforms in Indian history - of course the reforms take few years to bear fruit. Unfortunately, because of his tussle with Sonia Gandhi, his legacy has gotten completely buried; Congress (wrongly) attributes credit to Manmohan Singh - who himself has gone on record to state that he just implemented Narasimha Rao's vision, and that any other economist/FinancialExpert could have done the administrative job he did under Narasimha Rao's leadership.

That said, Vajpayee was also an incomparable leader and statesman in his own stead. Despite being in the opposition he was actually best buddies with Narasimha Rao. He supported Narasimha Rao's reforms even when several in Congress opposed Rao.

The Nuclear tests was also tee'd up by Narasimha Rao, who upon losing the election to Vajpayee told him that the first thing he needs to do is to complete the tests that're under advanced stage of preparation!

India is what it is today because of the two best leaders the country ever had - Narasimha Rao & Vajpayee (true patriots and exceptional leaders!)!!!!

You are forgetting one thing- in 1991, India was forced by Balance of Payment crisis to open up its economy. India was otherwise a big moron with retarded politics and policies. India had the mentality of 'we will die but will not improve' (hum marenge par sudharenge nahi)

 

[Scrutator]

You are forgetting one thing- in 1991, India was forced by Balance of Payment crisis to open up its economy. India was otherwise a big moron with retarded politics and policies. India had the mentality of 'we will die but will not improve' (hum marenge par sudharenge nahi)

Yes, there was a big financial crisis (created by the morons that you refer to). IMF et al forced India to devalue the currency, but in terms of changing the socialist policies in preference towards market economy was more of a political one (initiated by Narasimha Rao).
In fact his tenure saw India coming out of a stupid shell it had put itself into since Independence - which included establishing formal diplomatic relations with Israel (whose benefit India is reaping especially in the defense sector), changing the nuclear posture and of course making India a 'market' economy!!! India was in doldrums for decades before that - but no one had the courage or commonsense to do the right thing!!!

 

[hardip]

Around 2025, introduction before end of 2020s decade.

Do you bet?

Entering the production, yeah, developing a fighter from scratch delayed the project but India has got enough expertise from it for next project.
Next project won't get delayed, India took 10 years for a dud missile but created ICBM in 3 years. From two decades for Dhruv to the collection of helos we have, from a comedy warship building capability to making world's fifth largest destroyers, even in space program, similar stories are there in lot.
India has problem in first attempt, but not later.

India became world's 6th country to make 4th

gen fighter aircraft.

Don't liking it? Don't read it.
Design is coming to public domain this month.

Specify rest of 60%.
A list of those technologies instead of fairy tell judgements. Can you?

Look.. dear(with Respect)

M Indian.. Nd I Always Proud.. for this..nd will Be..

But..
I always thought..that. India.. makes..(develope) New Military technology..

But..
Can u Plz count on fingers.. How many military technology.. (only) India. Developed??

After independent..

India.. can not made a assault Rifle(final ..which is level of international standards )..without..
Other countries help..
..
..
I know Indian.. many companies working on many future development.. ships,sam missile, advance Helicopter ,fifth generation jets , submarine, SSBN, but do u think.. its can develop without other countries help..
??(they just collaboration other companies)

I know.. because..good talent.. is not on surface.. this government is very good.. and in future.. many companies will make their own
System..

Nd our country also.. stand on their Legs..

 

[Vijyes]

Look.. dear(with Respect)

M Indian.. Nd I Always Proud.. for this..nd will Be..

But..
I always thought..that. India.. makes..(develope) New Military technology..

But..
Can u Plz count on fingers.. How many military technology.. (only) India. Developed??

After independent..

India.. can not made a assault Rifle(final ..which is level of international standards )..without..
Other countries help..
..
..
I know Indian.. many companies working on many future development.. ships,sam missile, advance Helicopter ,fifth generation jets , submarine, SSBN, but do u think.. its can develop without other countries help..
??(they just collaboration other companies)

I know.. because..good talent.. is not on surface.. this government is very good.. and in future.. many companies will make their own
System..

Nd our country also.. stand on their Legs..

First it is necessary to understand that Indian navy has very high degree of indigenisation. Considering that funding for defence came after 1999 by Vajpayee, it is a very big deal to have developed a lot of things in 17 years. India did benefit from help from west unlike china giving India a qualitative edge and also a platform to leapfrog by reverse engineering and understanding of imported design. But that doesn't mean India can't now make things indigenously. It doesn't matter whether help was received or not. What matters is whether we can do it now ourselves or not. Even Kaveri engine is being done from technology transfer of Safran for its hot parts as part of tough negotiations for Rafale. Safran will deliver the engine and the technology by 2018 so that additional Rafale orders can be placed before 2019 elections (Congress can't be trusted in case it comes back). Nevertheless, despite not being developed indigenously but obtained as part of a deal, India will be able to complete the AMCA and LCA Mk2 projects on time with kaveri engine. India will be able to manufacture it indigenously in the future too. That's all that matters- in case of war, indigenous manufacturing of huge numbers of armaments.

I am only interested in 100% indigenous manufacturing ability, not development ability. Even if it means reverse engineering, so be it.

India has almost all kinds of manufacturing abilities as of now for all 3 - army, navy and developing for IAF. Even a few things considered as failure like arjun tanks are not actually failures. DRDO forgot that pakistan has dug canals on Indian borders after losing 1965 war to ensure indian tanks can't get through. So, it is compulsory to build short bridges if tanks have to cross. So, the arjun tank was heavier for the bridges needed. There are many things like this and it is only a matter of time (2030) by when most of the critical manufacturing will be indigenous

 

[tharun]

Do AMCA had Electro-optical targeting system(EOTS) which is found on f-35 and chinese j-20?

 

[Scrutator]

Do AMCA had Electro-optical targeting system(EOTS) which is found on f-35 and chinese j-20?

Going forward IRST would be standard on all aircrafts (unfortunately Tejas Mk1A couldn't accommodate it - no space). Btw....Mig29s in IAF have been upgraded with IRST pods; Rafale jets too will come with it.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Can u Plz count on fingers.. How many military technology.. (only) India. Developed??

Not even countable, there are plenty.

And please tell me some other country got independence at same time as that of India's reached India's level without foreign assistance. It's nothing against China got?

India.. can not made a assault Rifle(final ..which is level of international standards )..without..

Which idiot told you that?

??(they just collaboration other companies)

Do you have any idea about how many indigenous projects they have? Or their collaboration to smaller countries? Probably not,
Because you don't know that Indian Companies file 45,000 intellectual property & patents every year, it's damn high for India even in per capita.

India is world's 6th largest research spender and I can show you plenty of things of first of their kind made in India in modern time!

 

[HariPrasad-1]

The credit actually goes to PV Narasimha Rao, who did the most audacious economic reforms in Indian history - of course the reforms take few years to bear fruit. Unfortunately, because of his tussle with Sonia Gandhi, his legacy has gotten completely buried; Congress (wrongly) attributes credit to Manmohan Singh - who himself has gone on record to state that he just implemented Narasimha Rao's vision, and that any other economist/FinancialExpert could have done the administrative job he did under Narasimha Rao's leadership.

The golden period of Indian economy was in Vajpayee taime.

 

[Scrutator]

The golden period of Indian economy was in Vajpayee taime.

Sure. Large scale reforms take several years for their effect to show.
Btw..the credit also goes to Vajpayee for Narasimha Rao reforms - they both were best of pals and they did it together (even though they were from different parties - unbelievable statesmanship from the two of them!!).

 

[Trinetra]

The new model of AMCA at AEROINDIA 2017

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[Trinetra]

Posting the Tweet here..

 

[tsunami]

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[IndianHawk]

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It's sexy.

Goddamn just build a technology demonstrator asap.

 

[Prayash]

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I hope we will see a TD next aeroindia

 

[Trinetra]

I hope we will see a TD next aeroindia

Thats highly unlikely.. but 2020-21 timeline is more acceptable timeline..