Shooting down an early-1950s introduced (F86F) airplane does NOT help to prove a 1967-introd yuuced Marut "NOT technically obsolete". What you should had provided (discussed) is the technical standard back then, for most military aircraft (though not necessarily fighters). And that Marut did possess those standards.
-- it's just like arguing LCA Mk1 can fly as fast as MKI, does NOT make it automatically "complying with Whitcomb Area rule", as your first defense in that topic.(Turns out that comparison is barely apple to apple). (Thanks to HariPrasad-1, the exact scenario got some clarification!)
---- or, it's like boasting my 6-year Lexus NX outrun a 12-year-old Q8 on Canada highway prove it to be "NOT technically obsolete", even that NX lacks all FCW, RCTA, RDW, BSD, the common/required features now for most European SUV.
what I mentioned,
After the abandoning of Orpheus reheat engine for Marut,
It became subsonic, .& Not cosnsidered as ,"agile" ,due to lower peak thrust engines ,
So it was assigned in bombing roles,
But it gave a good account of itself in ai combat & scored kills in air combat.
"The
North American F-86 Sabre, sometimes called the
Sabrejet, is a
transonicjetfighter aircraft. Produced by
North American Aviation, the Sabre is best known as the United States' first
swept wing fighter that could counter the similarly-winged Soviet
MiG-15 in high-speed dogfights in the skies of the
Korean War (1950–1953),"
Against F86,
So top speeds alone doesn't matter in air combat was my point ".
Agility at close combat is far different from top speeds,
If that's so , then mirage 2000, is better than rafale.
Official document mentions , tejas as ,"super sonic at all altitudes,".
Tejas Flutter test dive's plummet distance, time, beginning speed of the dive
,(where pilot took his hands of the controls, & didn't give any throttle input)
terminal speed of the dive are all unknown quantities,
So guys concluding it was a powered dive , hv their own convictions for doing so.
Guys who conclude otherwise, hv their own convictions in doing so.
We still don't know tejas's sea level top speed resulted from breaking out of the dive or separately.
There are no official confirmation for that.
Plus it was the IAF official who said ,"now tejas mk1 , achieved same top speed as that of su 30 mki, in indian condition",
Not me.
May be some people know more than him, I don't bother about that.
As all the stuff has already been discussed here,
I need not go into it again.
Whitcomb area rule has no relevance in sub sonic , corner speeds in close combat ,
For which STR, ITR, AOA, Max Gs pulled, G onset rate, roll rate are calculated,
is my reading of aerodynamics.
Guys who say otherwise, are of no concern to me.
I am posting to set the record straight.
That's all.
