ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Rahul Singh]

Well this report is not true DRDO is no way blocking it it is all MoD and the tech transfer issue. DRDO is already ok with de linking of kaveri with LCA

I also had similar feeling about authenticity of this report. It was hard to understand why DRDO will delay relatively hyped and prestigious project for something which is not at that status at all and also seeing success in another form.

 

[plugwater]

 

[anoop_mig25]

Tejas to get "HF" Designation by year end

Last Fighter aircraft to get HF (Hindustan Fighter) Designation was HF-24 Marut , almost five decades ago when Marut first flew in late 50"²s , Tejas will get HF Designation by year end at the same time when IOC ( initial operational clearance ) is achieved .

HAL and ADA have send a file containing possible HF designations based on various parameters. Parameters include year of project start ,first roll out, or the first flight it self .
after HF Designation has been granted LCA Tag will be completely dropped and will not be used further officially .

Hindustan is added to every aircraft produced in India for very long time now , even new aircrafts has per their usage are given Designation , Trainer are designated Hindustan Trainer (HT-2) or Hindustan Jet Trainer (HJT-36) , Hindustan Turbo Trainer (HTT-40) and Hindustan Fighter for a fighter aircraft ,it been long five decades for this designation to be revived .

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don`t u people think Hindustan Fighter as something odd.first it uses an hindi name with english highly odd. second it uses hindustan which literally means place where hindu leaves(aka india).now i think there is no such place in world india/nepal are now secular
i think either they should use purely English word/or hindi word . i know there can be better world both in hindi or english other than hindustan fighter.what u people think

 

[Rahul Singh]

don`t u people think Hindustan Fighter as something odd.first it uses an hindi name with english highly odd. second it uses hindustan which literally means place where hindu leaves(aka india).now i think there is no such place in world india/nepal are now secular
i think either they should use purely English word/or hindi word . i know there can be better world both in hindi or english other than hindustan fighter.what u people think

Some pointers for you:

# Hindustan is not a hindi word.

# LCA Tejas is considered as a HAL(Hindustan Aeronautics Limited) product and this is why it's official designation have 'H' in 'HF'.

# Name is created by using one or combination of different words for some purpose and here 'H' in 'HF' stands for Hindustan to give respect to efforts of late Seth Walchand Hirachand, who had set up Hindustan Aircraft Limited at Bangalore in 1940 which after going into government control and after merger with Aeronautics India Limited and Aircraft Manufacturing Depot is now called Hindustan Aeronautics Limited

# Hindustan and Hindu are imported words or/and designation. The Arab's used to call everyone Hindu who were living on eastern bank of river Sindhu and this from nowhere refers only to people who believe in Sanatan Dharma(popularly called hindus now) rather it includes Buddhist, Janis etc. So for arab generalization, popular meaning of Hindu and Hindustan should not be mistaken.

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# Political status of some nation is now something can also reverse to something it was. Nothing is static....

 

[JHA]

KAVERI is yet another classic example of how badly we manage the projects and how much DRDO over estimates its capabilities...

Now that this is delinked with LCA ..i am sure when AMCA is ready then also Snechma-Kaveri will not have enough thrust to power this stealth aircraft..which is right now a medium weight fighter but when developed it will weigh atleast 25 tonnes ( considering our love with over weight in each and every project )

 

[nrj]

Now that this is delinked with LCA ..i am sure when AMCA is ready then also Snechma-Kaveri will not have enough thrust to power this stealth aircraft..which is right now a medium weight fighter but when developed it will weigh atleast 25 tonnes ( considering our love with over weight in each and every project )

OT still :happy_2: -

AMCA latest config highlights empty weight 16-18tons. Loading might take it to 24-25tons. Kaveri-Sncema not working together yet. I believe Eurojet is much better partner for engine of AMCA. My guess is 170-180kton thrust be enough for AMCA.

 

[Rahul Singh]

Some old pics(just to refresh memory) from N-LCA simulation. HUD view.

 

[Rahul Singh]

In mood to fill thread with some interesting and less seen pics of N-LCA and related to fill in time till 6th...hope moderators will not mind.

LCA simulator view.

LCA rear cockpit view.

 

[naguo]

hello every one. this is my first post. can any one clarify my doubt. Saab JAS 39 Gripen and Tejas seems to have almost same configuration. uses same american engine then how come Gripen is have more payload capacity and range.

 

[JHA]

I would not like many tejas to operate from the carriers...atleast not in their current capabilities..

 

[nrj]

I would not like many tejas to operate from the carriers...atleast not in their current capabilities..

NLCA is very important project for IN. However, the number of NLCA on IAC-1, IAC-2 will be very limited. They'll just complement MIG29K. But as MK II will progress, we can expect more of these NLCA on future carriers & in land based inventory of IN as it'll be cheap eventually forming the strength.

Success of NLCA will judge our capability to develop own carrier fighters. I am excited about the Shore based Training Facility (SBTF) at INS Hansa completing this year end. It'll be only 3rd in the world.

 

[JHA]

NLCA is very important project for IN. However, the number of NLCA on IAC-1, IAC-2 will be very limited. They'll just complement MIG29K. But as MK II will progress, we can expect more of these NLCA on future carriers & in land based inventory of IN as it'll be cheap eventually forming the strength.

Success of NLCA will judge our capability to develop own carrier fighters. I am excited about the Shore based Training Facility (SBTF) at INS Hansa completing this year end. It'll be only 3rd in the world.

Thtas precisely what i wanted to tell..We should not induct NLCA just for the sake of it...let it develop and prove itself then only we should fle them off carriers. Until then let them grace INS HANSA.

 

[Agantrope]

NLCA is very important project for IN. However, the number of NLCA on IAC-1, IAC-2 will be very limited. They'll just complement MIG29K. But as MK II will progress, we can expect more of these NLCA on future carriers & in land based inventory of IN as it'll be cheap eventually forming the strength.

Success of NLCA will judge our capability to develop own carrier fighters. I am excited about the Shore based Training Facility (SBTF) at INS Hansa completing this year end. It'll be only 3rd in the world.

Why dont we can have a shore based facility for AC lift in the Eastern Front so we can use the aircraft without any carriers from the shore. Is that possible?

 

[Rahul Singh]

I would not like many tejas to operate from the carriers...atleast not in their current capabilities..

With present thrust Tejas is not able to take-off from STOBAR carriers and that is why ADA is looking for new powerful engine. Except engine or power could you specify what makes Tejas unsuitable(as per you) for carrier-borne operations?

 

[Rahul Singh]

LCA-Tejas has completed 1400 Test Flights successfully. (02-July-10).

LCA has completed 1400 Test Flights successfully
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-153,PV3-222,LSP1-59,LSP2-154,PV5-15,LSP3-14,LSP4-3).

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[Rahul Singh]

NLCA is very important project for IN. However, the number of NLCA on IAC-1, IAC-2 will be very limited. They'll just complement MIG29K. But as MK II will progress, we can expect more of these NLCA on future carriers & in land based inventory of IN as it'll be cheap eventually forming the strength.

Are you are referring to MK-1 with limited presence on IAC-1 and IAC-2? ..................... MK-1 is not capable of taking-off from carriers that is why navy has placed orders for only 2 MK-1 N-LCA and that just for keeping the rest of the tests going on till MK-2 arrives and they move to carrier for testing and certification.

And only with the new engine will the LCA have the power to get airborne from an aircraft carrier.

After the LCA is fitted with a new, more powerful engine we will take the next step of operating from an aircraft carrier."

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[Rahul Singh]

Why dont we can have a shore based facility for AC lift in the Eastern Front so we can use the aircraft without any carriers from the shore. Is that possible?

SBTF is being build at western front because of availability of resources and support infrastructure at INS HANSA.

Why would you like to launch a fighter from SBTF when question is just to launch fighter from land why not use plain and simple FOB's runway instead?

 

[Agantrope]

SBTF is being build at western front because of availability of resources and support infrastructure at INS HANSA.

Why would you like to launch a fighter from SBTF when question is just to launch fighter from land why not use plain and simple FOB's runway instead?

I meant for IN not the IAF.

 

[Rahul Singh]

I meant for IN not the IAF.

On requirement they can inter-operate any day and there are sufficient IAF FOB's on eastern front. BTW there is also a naval air station on eastern front called 'Arakkonam Naval Air Station' with third longest runway in India and can be used by naval fighters.

 

[nrj]

Are you are referring to MK-1 with limited presence on IAC-1 and IAC-2? ..................... MK-1 is not capable of taking-off from carriers that is why navy has placed orders for only 2 MK-1 N-LCA and that just for keeping the rest of the tests going on till MK-2 arrives and they move to carrier for testing and certification.

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NLCA shooting off from carrier won't be MK I. IN will never accept that. The AC NLCA will be MK II. They shouldn't even try underpowered LCA from short runway of carrier......