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Which role suits LCA 'Tejas' more than others from following options?

  • Interceptor-Defend Skies from Intruders.

    Votes: 342 51.3%
  • Airsuperiority-Complete control of the skies.

    Votes: 17 2.5%
  • Strike-Attack deep into enemy zone.

    Votes: 24 3.6%
  • Multirole-Perform multiple roles.

    Votes: 284 42.6%

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It's not about being super expert, it is an honest request to go through this thread thoroughly it might take few days to completely read it. But to get perturbed over PaK and Chinese media's report is just not correct. Bear in Mind PAC Kamra is just 1 such industry . HAL is a mammoth. So do not get perturbed over media

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I couldn't understand the urge of "New Members" to jump the gun & start labeling Tejas without having patience to read the priceless posts made by our resident experts. If anyone, for that matter even RaGa (popularly known as Pappu / Buddhu), reads this dhaga from post #1, he would have a fair understanding of the capabilities & limitations of Tejas.

After tolerating some idiotic posts from newbies, I think BRF type caution should be there:
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The India Pak ratio is now down to 1.3:1. It will get worse if we dont act quickly. The SU- 35 is currently the worlds best 4th Gen plus fighter. If we are not getting Rafale in the quantities we needed, we will need a stop gap urgently. China is also going to get SU-35 so lets preempt it.The USA has already supplied Pak with F-16Cs and we need some better fighters and QUICKLY.We should kill the Paki deal before it happens and delay the Chinese deal for SU-35s. The essence now is speed. we cannot afford bureaucratic inertia anymore.
Its the stop gap and urgency shown by us at some time which did resulted in such a situation which we are seeing right now in terms of weapon development. Right now too, we are being forced to see such a situation through the eyes of global media and a select section.

Weapon development is not a matter of few days, months or year. It does take decades to perfect the same and to make a small achievement in this field. Now let us take a look at what we had done in all these years. Immediately after independence, we had shown a near lack lustre view towards our defence force. We all do know how some stupid decisions at top end did nearly cost us the Kashmir and heavily cost us in A.P. What we did after that? Instead of investing in defence R&D we showed urgency in ramping up our purchase. It does work in a small duration. But when talking about long term, you need investment. Investment of resources and time you got.

Talking about authors writing blogs like this, who does held quiet senior posts in media houses, are something which I cant understand.
http://www.nationalinterest.org/blo...the-slow-painful-death-indias-air-force-14149
http://www.firstpost.com/india/iaf-...for-our-rickety-old-trainer-jets-2481584.html
Seriously, what does these guys think of current situation. They are as paranoid as cockroaches in sunlight. Lets talk about logic and practicality here. Do they think that Pak or Chinese army is going to march in Indian territory like those of LeT, JeM?

Chinese are making progress in their weapon development, its a fact. But how do you expect to counter it? By importing stuff? Is it going to work in a long run? As far as China is concerned, we do need time to counter balance them. We need to invest time to improve on our tech and know how on weapon designing and development. In rush we did lost some precious time in this regard. In current scenario, China is not going to raid India, not atleast by its Air Force. It would take this measure only if India does infiltrate its border, which is very unlikely. But yes, they are always going to pose a offensive posture going by the rule of 'Sun Tzu's Art of War'. So would these so called experts define how we could counter them by going through expensive imports?

As far as Pak is concerned, going by history it seems possible that they could show some adventurism in this regard. Now let us take into consideration what they got in their arsenal, which could be a problem for us. Apart from Mirage III, JF-17 and recent F-16 Block D, I don't see any aircraft with decent fighter role (please do enlighten me if i am wrong as I dont have extensive knowledge on PAF inventory). As per my outlook all these three aircrafts could be taken care of by MKI's and MiG's in our arsenal. But again instead of their adventurist nature, could they declare a ariel warfare in mainland India?

Now I do have a question for our expert of National Interest Mr Dave Mazumdar. You are quick to finger out the 57 faults in the aircraft and how it would be fatal in course of war. Could you point out a fighter which is not fatal in course of a war? Why didn't you talked about the technical challenges which has been faced and overcame in the development of the plane?

Its too easy for a desk jockey like him and many others to pen out words in paper. But they should look at the bigger picture and try to rationalize things. We should definitely strengthen our defence. But we should also have a look out at what we are paying for it. Purchasing each and every thing and depending on others for defence need is not what a emerging power house does. We could be global leaders only when we would work on our own and pave the way for future.
 

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@Kharavela
If you are referring to me as "New Member" in your post then I would like to point out the last line I have written in my post. I was drawing attention towards the lies being spread by the main stream media to deter the induction of indigenous Tejas for the sake of safety of newly inducted women fighter pilots. Somebody has to counter these propaganda items either through documentary or something that can instill confidence and proud in the normal citizens about Tejas.
 

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I couldn't understand the urge of "New Members" to jump the gun & start labeling Tejas without having patience to read the priceless posts made by our resident experts. If anyone, for that matter even RaGa (popularly known as Pappu / Buddhu), reads this dhaga from post #1, he would have a fair understanding of the capabilities & limitations of Tejas.

After tolerating some idiotic posts from newbies, I think BRF type caution should be there:
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@mods Please consider the suggestion seriously.
Well the newbies ask out of concern and concern over a period of time grows to resentment, in d end they start to legitimise their resentment by quoting half researched facts. Only a patient reading of both sides of the story can der be a debate. Subsequently a self study of certain battle scenarios where the agility of an aircraft has proven its worth can actually work as a platform for interesting discussion.

For the above mentioned PaK aircrafts neither of them have had any combat experience and neither does Tejas , so for either Dave Majumdar or PaK/China media to spill bile on Tejas has no significance .
I hope the new entrants to this forum understand this basic premise i.e. research and contribute to a more conducive environment for debate

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Well the newbies ask out of concern and concern over a period of time grows to resentment, in d end they start to legitimise their resentment by quoting half researched facts. Only a patient reading of both sides of the story can der be a debate. Subsequently a self study of certain battle scenarios where the agility of an aircraft has proven its worth can actually work as a platform for interesting discussion.

For the above mentioned PaK aircrafts neither of them have had any combat experience and neither does Tejas , so for either Dave Majumdar or PaK/China media to spill bile on Tejas has no significance .
I hope the new entrants to this forum understand this basic premise i.e. research and contribute to a more conducive environment for debate

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My suggestion of BRF type caution is based on two premises:

1) Do we want to see DFI as reliable source of information OR just a chit-chat forum ? Personally, I want to see DFI to be quoted by print & electronic media for reliable information on Defence matters.

2) There is no harm in asking a question by a newbie to an expert or to a person with more experience. But one should post after carefully studying the subject. In this particular thread, there are goldmine worth of data regarding Tejas. Without having patience to read, if one labels absurd tags to Tejas - I find that idiotic.
 

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Good analysis by a Philippines based blog between Tejas and KFIR Block 60.

https://rhk111smilitaryandarmspage.wordpress.com/2014/02/07/the-tejas-mk1-versus-the-kfir-block-60/

Experts can debate whether it's worth reading it or just another newbie crap.. ;)
You are not getting my point, Mate. My suggestions are not targeted towards you.
I am not discouraging you or any new member. I am just suggesting to patiently read the immense amount of information available in this Forum itself.

BTW, the comparison you've posted seems an unbiased one. Good Job.
Having said that, please remember that No two aircrafts are comparable in absolute terms. Every one has its own strengths & limitations. Remember how a little fighter Gnat came out victorious against PAF's seemingly superior fighters !!
 

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It helps if members read threads and past discussions.

If we have a circular discussion with the same arguments again and again, then it becomes noise. If members continue to add new information, then the discussion remains interesting and engaging.
 

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Good analysis by a Philippines based blog between Tejas and KFIR Block 60.

https://rhk111smilitaryandarmspage.wordpress.com/2014/02/07/the-tejas-mk1-versus-the-kfir-block-60/

Experts can debate whether it's worth reading it or just another newbie crap.. ;)
Bro good article very unbiased and realistic approach. the author does mention Mk 3 stealth version of Tejas, I hope ADA HAL come with a stealth version of Tejas once mk1a is completed and full swing production starts.
 

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Cutting-edge Israeli radar wins air force approval for Tejas fighter
Israeli AESA radar for Jaguar, to be upgraded for new Tejas


The Indian Air Force (IAF), after years of opposing the indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA), now accepts it is on track to be a world-class light fighter.

The specifications of the new Tejas - termed Standard of Preparation-2018 (SoP-18) - were agreed in New Delhi on September 23, between the air force and the Tejas' designers and manufacturers. One hundred SoP-18 Tejas fighters will join the IAF, starting 2018-19.

The key battle-winning capability in the SoP-18 Tejas is "active electronically scanned array" (AESA) radar that Israel will develop jointly with India. This was the clincher that made the IAF agree to buy 100 SoP-18 fighters from Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), in addition to the 20 Tejas Mark I already on order.

HAL also undertook to equip the SoP-18 Tejas with air-to-air refuelling, a "self-protection jammer" (SPJ) under the fighter's wing, and to refashion the layout of internal systems to make the fighter easier to maintain. Yet, it was the AESA radar that conclusively grabbed the IAF's attention. No Indian fighter has this capability yet nor does any fighter with Pakistan or China.

AESA radar enjoys key advantages over conventional "manually steered" radar. In the latter, the antenna is moved manually to let the radar beam scan the sky for enemy targets. In AESA radar, the beam moves electronically, switching between multiple targets so rapidly that it effectively scans them simultaneously, even when they are located far apart - in the air, on sea, and the ground. By switching its beam rapidly, the "multi-tasking" AESA radar can simultaneously track enemy aircraft, guide missiles to those targets, and jam enemy communications and radar. In modern-day aerial combat, AESA radar would be a key difference between defeat and victory.

Since India's Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO) cannot yet miniaturise airborne radar for a fighter's nose (it has built a larger radar for airborne early warning and control aircraft), the Tejas fighter was equipped with the EL/M-2032 radar, bought from Israeli company, Elta.

The impending replacement of this manual radar with Elta's ELM-2052 AESA radar illustrates the symbiosis between Israel's high-tech defence industry and India's equipment-hungry military, and how each sustains the other.

Business Standard first reported the IAF's decision to order 100 improved Tejas Mark 1A fighters (August 13, With Tejas Mark II years away, HAL asks air force to buy Tejas Mark 1A, and October 2, Parrikar cuts Gordian knot to boost Tejas line). Now, from HAL Bengaluru, comes this account of how Elta's ELM-2052 AESA radar was chosen.

The decision stems from the IAF's ongoing plan to refurbish its 123-aircraft Jaguar fleet, upgrading those six squadrons of deep penetration strike aircraft to continue in service for another 15-20 years. This involves spending $2 billion (Rs 13,000 crore) on new, more powerful engines (the Honeywell F-125N has been chosen); upgrading 61 Jaguars with HAL's vaunted DARIN-3 navigation-attack system, and arming the fleet with lethal, smart munitions like the Textron CBU-105 "sensor-fuzed bombs" that India bought from the United States in 2010.

Then, in 2012, Elta sensed an opportunity and offered to equip the Jaguar with its new ELM-2052 AESA radar. This would provide the Jaguar real ability to beat off enemy fighters, even while on its primary mission of ground strike. Says HAL Chairman T Suvarna Raju: "I was delighted when Elta offered the AESA radar for the Jaguar. Elta wanted neither development costs nor more time."

Elta's offer, however, came with the condition that at least one more fighter in the IAF's inventory should field the ELM-2052 AESA radar. To sweeten the deal, Elta offered to work jointly with HAL on an improved version of the ELM-2052.

This was a win-win for both Elta and HAL. "Look at the market HAL provides Elta. The 61 Jaguars being upgraded to DARIN-3 would all be fitted with the ELM-2052. At least 100 Tejas would get the improved version, possibly with more to follow. Meanwhile, 50 IAF Mirage-2000 fighters are being upgraded, but with a manual radar that could become obsolescent quickly. So the improved AESA could eventually equip the Mirage fleet too, adding up to 200-plus radars," says Raju.

Aerospace industry experts highlight other benefits for Elta. While bearing the design and development cost of the new AESA radar, the Israeli company would save a great deal of money by having flight-testing done on IAF Jaguars. "Israeli Aircraft Industries (IAI is Elta's parent company) and HAL have signed an agreement that says we would partner IAI in developing the improved AESA radar for the Tejas," confirms Raju.

Defence ministry sources say the agreement specifies that 60 per cent of the new radar, by value, would be manufactured in India.

The Elta proposal is typical of how Israeli defence companies do business, explains a senior HAL manager. The Israeli Air Force operates US-built F-15 and F-16 fighters, which come fitted with US-designed AESA radar. All this comes to Israel free, as US military aid to a crucial ally. That leaves little space in Israel's military inventory for equipment built by domestic companies like Elta. Yet, the Israeli government insists on nurturing its defence industry, in case the pipeline from Washington ever shuts. "To stay in business and to fund high-tech R&D, Israeli defence companies like Elta rely heavily on sales to India, particularly the IAF", says aerospace expert Pushpinder Singh.

Illustrating Israeli capabilities, the Tejas Mark I was already armed with an all-Israeli combination of the Elta EL/M-2032 radar, the Derby and Python air-to-air missiles, and a data link that digitally interconnected these. Indian test pilots say this was a "world-class" air-to-air combat configuration. But now, the Elta-HAL AESA radar could make Tejas a more capable air-defence fighter.

JET, SET, GO

  • The specifications of the new Tejas - termed Standard of Preparation-2018 (SoP-18) - were agreed in New Delhi on September 23, between the air force and the Tejas' designers and manufacturers
  • One hundred SoP-18 Tejas fighters will join the IAF, starting 2018-19
  • The key battle-winning capability in the SoP-18 Tejas is "active electronically scanned array" radar that Israel will develop jointly with India
  • This was the clincher that made the IAF agree to buy 100 SoP-18 fighters from HAL, in addition to the 20 Tejas Mark I already on order



http://www.business-standard.com/ar...pproval-for-tejas-fighter-115102500749_1.html
 

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Tejas with Aesa radar will be best product ever made by Hal but time is short Pakistan getting new F 16 fighter. Any how i am happy that air force started inducting indigenous fighter. I hope Hal deliver fighter on time.
 

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Cutting-edge Israeli radar wins air force approval for Tejas fighter
Israeli AESA radar for Jaguar, to be upgraded for new Tejas


The Indian Air Force (IAF), after years of opposing the indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA), now accepts it is on track to be a world-class light fighter.

The specifications of the new Tejas - termed Standard of Preparation-2018 (SoP-18) - were agreed in New Delhi on September 23, between the air force and the Tejas' designers and manufacturers. One hundred SoP-18 Tejas fighters will join the IAF, starting 2018-19.

The key battle-winning capability in the SoP-18 Tejas is "active electronically scanned array" (AESA) radar that Israel will develop jointly with India. This was the clincher that made the IAF agree to buy 100 SoP-18 fighters from Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), in addition to the 20 Tejas Mark I already on order.

HAL also undertook to equip the SoP-18 Tejas with air-to-air refuelling, a "self-protection jammer" (SPJ) under the fighter's wing, and to refashion the layout of internal systems to make the fighter easier to maintain. Yet, it was the AESA radar that conclusively grabbed the IAF's attention. No Indian fighter has this capability yet nor does any fighter with Pakistan or China.

AESA radar enjoys key advantages over conventional "manually steered" radar. In the latter, the antenna is moved manually to let the radar beam scan the sky for enemy targets. In AESA radar, the beam moves electronically, switching between multiple targets so rapidly that it effectively scans them simultaneously, even when they are located far apart - in the air, on sea, and the ground. By switching its beam rapidly, the "multi-tasking" AESA radar can simultaneously track enemy aircraft, guide missiles to those targets, and jam enemy communications and radar. In modern-day aerial combat, AESA radar would be a key difference between defeat and victory.

Since India's Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO) cannot yet miniaturise airborne radar for a fighter's nose (it has built a larger radar for airborne early warning and control aircraft), the Tejas fighter was equipped with the EL/M-2032 radar, bought from Israeli company, Elta.

The impending replacement of this manual radar with Elta's ELM-2052 AESA radar illustrates the symbiosis between Israel's high-tech defence industry and India's equipment-hungry military, and how each sustains the other.

Business Standard first reported the IAF's decision to order 100 improved Tejas Mark 1A fighters (August 13, With Tejas Mark II years away, HAL asks air force to buy Tejas Mark 1A, and October 2, Parrikar cuts Gordian knot to boost Tejas line). Now, from HAL Bengaluru, comes this account of how Elta's ELM-2052 AESA radar was chosen.

The decision stems from the IAF's ongoing plan to refurbish its 123-aircraft Jaguar fleet, upgrading those six squadrons of deep penetration strike aircraft to continue in service for another 15-20 years. This involves spending $2 billion (Rs 13,000 crore) on new, more powerful engines (the Honeywell F-125N has been chosen); upgrading 61 Jaguars with HAL's vaunted DARIN-3 navigation-attack system, and arming the fleet with lethal, smart munitions like the Textron CBU-105 "sensor-fuzed bombs" that India bought from the United States in 2010.

Then, in 2012, Elta sensed an opportunity and offered to equip the Jaguar with its new ELM-2052 AESA radar. This would provide the Jaguar real ability to beat off enemy fighters, even while on its primary mission of ground strike. Says HAL Chairman T Suvarna Raju: "I was delighted when Elta offered the AESA radar for the Jaguar. Elta wanted neither development costs nor more time."

Elta's offer, however, came with the condition that at least one more fighter in the IAF's inventory should field the ELM-2052 AESA radar. To sweeten the deal, Elta offered to work jointly with HAL on an improved version of the ELM-2052.

This was a win-win for both Elta and HAL. "Look at the market HAL provides Elta. The 61 Jaguars being upgraded to DARIN-3 would all be fitted with the ELM-2052. At least 100 Tejas would get the improved version, possibly with more to follow. Meanwhile, 50 IAF Mirage-2000 fighters are being upgraded, but with a manual radar that could become obsolescent quickly. So the improved AESA could eventually equip the Mirage fleet too, adding up to 200-plus radars," says Raju.

Aerospace industry experts highlight other benefits for Elta. While bearing the design and development cost of the new AESA radar, the Israeli company would save a great deal of money by having flight-testing done on IAF Jaguars. "Israeli Aircraft Industries (IAI is Elta's parent company) and HAL have signed an agreement that says we would partner IAI in developing the improved AESA radar for the Tejas," confirms Raju.

Defence ministry sources say the agreement specifies that 60 per cent of the new radar, by value, would be manufactured in India.

The Elta proposal is typical of how Israeli defence companies do business, explains a senior HAL manager. The Israeli Air Force operates US-built F-15 and F-16 fighters, which come fitted with US-designed AESA radar. All this comes to Israel free, as US military aid to a crucial ally. That leaves little space in Israel's military inventory for equipment built by domestic companies like Elta. Yet, the Israeli government insists on nurturing its defence industry, in case the pipeline from Washington ever shuts. "To stay in business and to fund high-tech R&D, Israeli defence companies like Elta rely heavily on sales to India, particularly the IAF", says aerospace expert Pushpinder Singh.

Illustrating Israeli capabilities, the Tejas Mark I was already armed with an all-Israeli combination of the Elta EL/M-2032 radar, the Derby and Python air-to-air missiles, and a data link that digitally interconnected these. Indian test pilots say this was a "world-class" air-to-air combat configuration. But now, the Elta-HAL AESA radar could make Tejas a more capable air-defence fighter.

JET, SET, GO

  • The specifications of the new Tejas - termed Standard of Preparation-2018 (SoP-18) - were agreed in New Delhi on September 23, between the air force and the Tejas' designers and manufacturers
  • One hundred SoP-18 Tejas fighters will join the IAF, starting 2018-19
  • The key battle-winning capability in the SoP-18 Tejas is "active electronically scanned array" radar that Israel will develop jointly with India
  • This was the clincher that made the IAF agree to buy 100 SoP-18 fighters from HAL, in addition to the 20 Tejas Mark I already on order



http://www.business-standard.com/ar...pproval-for-tejas-fighter-115102500749_1.html
What about Uttam radar then ? are they shifting it to the AMCA ?
 

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What about Uttam radar then ? are they shifting it to the AMCA ?

Karan M
of BRF wrote & I quote:
" Usual DRDO process in airborne radar development
- demo prototype with sparse populated TRM and full unit- roof tests once software is available (A2A) with demo unit and full unit - flight trials for A2A validation & A2G tests
Also depends on aircraft availability

We know Uttam is in 2nd phase, whether its mature enough for last phase remains to be seen
PS: Uttam is to have a comprehensive set of modes, and the flight speed of the LCA will pose another challenge (AEW&C is on a/c<M1, which is a specific issue for A2G modes). About the only thing moderate about the radar is its range ~100km, same as on the MMR. Ideally, it should have been in the Zhuk ME class (130-150km), matching or exceeding the RDY-2. Would give it useful capability in areas without AEW&C coverage, but against the PAF it may well be overkill."
 

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India-Israel To Develop AESA Radar For LCA Tejas


Tejas Standard of Preparation-2018 (SoP-18) aircraft

India will develop an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar with Israel for the next generation of its Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA).

The Indian air force has accepted the indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA) which previously it had opposed, Business Standard reported Sunday.

The configurations of the new Tejas called SoP-18 were agreed in New Delhi on September 23, between the air force and the Tejas' designers and manufacturers. The IAF agreed to buy 100 SoP-18 fighters from Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), in addition to the 20 Tejas Mark I already on order.

The Elta-HAL AESA radar has key advantages over conventional "manually steered" radar. In the latter, the antenna is moved manually to let the radar beam scan the sky for enemy targets.

India's Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO) cannot yet miniaturise airborne radar for a fighter's nose (it has built a larger radar for airborne early warning and control aircraft). Hence, the Tejas fighter was equipped with the EL/M-2032 radar, bought from Israeli company, Elta but the equipment of Tejas with AESA radar will make it a more capable fighter.

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/14400/India_Israel_To_Develop_AESA_Radar_For_LCA_Tejas#.Vi4gYenY5jY
 

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India-Israel To Develop AESA Radar For LCA Tejas


Tejas Standard of Preparation-2018 (SoP-18) aircraft

India will develop an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar with Israel for the next generation of its Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA).

The Indian air force has accepted the indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA) which previously it had opposed, Business Standard reported Sunday.

The configurations of the new Tejas called SoP-18 were agreed in New Delhi on September 23, between the air force and the Tejas' designers and manufacturers. The IAF agreed to buy 100 SoP-18 fighters from Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), in addition to the 20 Tejas Mark I already on order.

The Elta-HAL AESA radar has key advantages over conventional "manually steered" radar. In the latter, the antenna is moved manually to let the radar beam scan the sky for enemy targets.

India's Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO) cannot yet miniaturise airborne radar for a fighter's nose (it has built a larger radar for airborne early warning and control aircraft). Hence, the Tejas fighter was equipped with the EL/M-2032 radar, bought from Israeli company, Elta but the equipment of Tejas with AESA radar will make it a more capable fighter.

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/14400/India_Israel_To_Develop_AESA_Radar_For_LCA_Tejas#.Vi4gYenY5jY
Never Knew that just having an aesa radar would turn our witchhunted Tejas in to a more capable fighter. Bravo IAF bravo thank you for reposing faith in Dalals & import lobbies.

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India will develop an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar with Israel for the next generation of its Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA).

The Indian air force has accepted the indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA) which previously it had opposed, Business Standard reported Sunday.
I think these are stop-gap measures for Tejas till the indigenous Uttam AESA becomes ready after various field tests. Whichever way leads to faster induction of Tejas in IAF is the right way !! At the same time, it would be better to create obsolesce management department right from the beginning.
My concern is what will be the combat effectiveness of Tejas beyond 2025 era when 5th generation planes of various countries dominate the sky like Chinese JF-31, Japan ATX-D, Korean KF-X, et. al. Even Turkey is developing with their own 5th gen fighter. It is a very precarious situation when we are bringing our 4++ gen plane into our arsenal, our eastern adversary has already got 5th gen plane with them. Now when we start inducting our 5th gen AMCA post 2025, God knows what they would be having...!!
 

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I think these are stop-gap measures for Tejas till the indigenous Uttam AESA becomes ready after various field tests. Whichever way leads to faster induction of Tejas in IAF is the right way !! At the same time, it would be better to create obsolesce management department right from the beginning.
My concern is what will be the combat effectiveness of Tejas beyond 2025 era when 5th generation planes of various countries dominate the sky like Chinese JF-31, Japan ATX-D, Korean KF-X, et. al. Even Turkey is developing with their own 5th gen fighter. It is a very precarious situation when we are bringing our 4++ gen plane into our arsenal, our eastern adversary has already got 5th gen plane with them. Now when we start inducting our 5th gen AMCA post 2025, God knows what they would be having...!!
Presence of 5th gen doesn't mean absence of 4rth gen, we wont pitch Tejas against a 5th gen fighter.

With AESA, Tejas will become the first AC with AESA in IAF !
 
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