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No need for the sarcasm. China is rallying practically the whole Asia against itself.
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Filler alert! Who the hell did not knew that LCA MK-1 will take anther two years from IOC to achieve FOC. 2011= IOC then 2013 = FOC, simple mathematics, why cry over it?
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Tejas LSP-7 all set for its launch
Tejas LSP-7 all set for its launch
Bangalore | Posted on Oct 22, 2011 at 09:12am IST
BANGALORE: Indian Air Force (IAF) pilots will officially get a taste of home-grown Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas with the 12th aircraft from the project flight-line and the seventh from the limited series production (LSP-7) block set to kiss the skies soon.
Sources told Express that the crucial engine ground run (EGR) was over and the fighter was now being put on low-speed taxi trials (LSTT). "We will do the LSTT before October 24 and the high-speed taxi trials (HSTT) after that. Finally, we will do the nose-up trial leading to the first flight," sources said.
The aircraft is expected to do the LSTT at 150 kmph and the HSTT at 250 kmph.
Though the LSP-7 was scheduled to fly in August, the project hit an air pocket when fuel leak was noticed in one of the aircraft during taxiing. "We had to ground the entire Tejas fleet as safety was our top-most priority. We lost the months of May, June, July and August with not much of testing happening," sources said.
Engineers had to re-arrange the butting of fuel and hydraulic pipes to avoid them coming into contact.
In the meantime, the IAF minced no words about quality concerns of Tejas user versions, putting its makers Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) in a spot of bother. "HAL took too much time in absorption of changes suggested by the user. We have definite issues with the pace of the programme. Each aircraft is now taking 24 months right from the part assembly stage. Once, Tejas is inducted into the IAF, we want HAL to put in an improvised production line," a senior Indian Air Force official said.
To iron out all the issues, a top-level Tejas review meeting was held in New Delhi this week with all the project partners in attendance.
The IAF, which has already begun the preparations for the Tejas squadron, will have to wait for some more time before taking Tejas for the user trials. The No 45 Tejas Squadron, to be based in Sulur near Coimbatore, will be known as Flying Daggers.
FIRE POWER
Team Tejas is back in Bangalore after a two-week successful weapon trials in Pokhran and Chandan ranges of Rajasthan. For the first time, three aircraft from the Tejas flight-line have dropped a laser-guided bomb (LGB), 1,000 lb bombs and practice ammunition.
The aircraft also performed a 1,200-litre drop tank release (jettison) to test the accuracy parameters. "Close to 30 flights to check improvements and accuracy of hitting the targets were performed. The LGB trail was very critical," sources said.
The team will now head for advanced high-altitude weapon trials in Jamnagar and Leh. Sea trials will take place at INS Hansa in Goa with Russian-made R-73 air-to-air close combat missile.
THE STORY SO FAR
â– First flight of Tejas TD-1: 2001
â– First flight of PV-2: 2005
â– First order for 20 aircraft: 2006
â– Order for 20 more: 2010
â– Initial Operational Clearance: 2011
â– Total flights: 1,713
â– Total hours: 1,000-plus
â– User evaluation: Before 2012 March
Tejas LSP-7 all set for its launch - southindia - Bangalore - ibnlive
Tejas LSP-7 all set for its launch
Bangalore | Posted on Oct 22, 2011 at 09:12am IST
BANGALORE: Indian Air Force (IAF) pilots will officially get a taste of home-grown Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas with the 12th aircraft from the project flight-line and the seventh from the limited series production (LSP-7) block set to kiss the skies soon.
Sources told Express that the crucial engine ground run (EGR) was over and the fighter was now being put on low-speed taxi trials (LSTT). "We will do the LSTT before October 24 and the high-speed taxi trials (HSTT) after that. Finally, we will do the nose-up trial leading to the first flight," sources said.
The aircraft is expected to do the LSTT at 150 kmph and the HSTT at 250 kmph.
Though the LSP-7 was scheduled to fly in August, the project hit an air pocket when fuel leak was noticed in one of the aircraft during taxiing. "We had to ground the entire Tejas fleet as safety was our top-most priority. We lost the months of May, June, July and August with not much of testing happening," sources said.
Engineers had to re-arrange the butting of fuel and hydraulic pipes to avoid them coming into contact.
In the meantime, the IAF minced no words about quality concerns of Tejas user versions, putting its makers Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) in a spot of bother. "HAL took too much time in absorption of changes suggested by the user. We have definite issues with the pace of the programme. Each aircraft is now taking 24 months right from the part assembly stage. Once, Tejas is inducted into the IAF, we want HAL to put in an improvised production line," a senior Indian Air Force official said.
To iron out all the issues, a top-level Tejas review meeting was held in New Delhi this week with all the project partners in attendance.
The IAF, which has already begun the preparations for the Tejas squadron, will have to wait for some more time before taking Tejas for the user trials. The No 45 Tejas Squadron, to be based in Sulur near Coimbatore, will be known as Flying Daggers.
FIRE POWER
Team Tejas is back in Bangalore after a two-week successful weapon trials in Pokhran and Chandan ranges of Rajasthan. For the first time, three aircraft from the Tejas flight-line have dropped a laser-guided bomb (LGB), 1,000 lb bombs and practice ammunition.
The aircraft also performed a 1,200-litre drop tank release (jettison) to test the accuracy parameters. "Close to 30 flights to check improvements and accuracy of hitting the targets were performed. The LGB trail was very critical," sources said.
The team will now head for advanced high-altitude weapon trials in Jamnagar and Leh. Sea trials will take place at INS Hansa in Goa with Russian-made R-73 air-to-air close combat missile.
THE STORY SO FAR
â– First flight of Tejas TD-1: 2001
â– First flight of PV-2: 2005
â– First order for 20 aircraft: 2006
â– Order for 20 more: 2010
â– Initial Operational Clearance: 2011
â– Total flights: 1,713
â– Total hours: 1,000-plus
â– User evaluation: Before 2012 March
Tejas LSP-7 all set for its launch - southindia - Bangalore - ibnlive
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HAL- starch of society. useful and useless at same time.
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It's Hal LCA-Tejas LSP 7
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Unfortunately for the nation.It's Hal LCA-Tejas LSP 7
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tejas lsp-7 ( as lca mark 1 is called tejas in IAF and mark 2 again lca) is way ahead of the lsp-1 and is more like lsp-5/6 which are almost the final models. this aircrafts is what they have developed on papers and this is the aircrafts which IAF will finally get in form of 40 aircrafts ordered in past years.
all other earlier models are under-powered and made to check many of the system and in layman's language they were the test-beds.
all other earlier models are under-powered and made to check many of the system and in layman's language they were the test-beds.
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LSP-7 is fully developed version of LCA MK-1 as per IOC standards. Apart from that, it will be given to IAF for evaluation and maintenance training.
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First flight of LCA NP-1 delayed
Oct 27, 2011
BANGALORE: It's official� The undercarriage of the naval version (Naval Prototype NP-1) of India's Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) is bulky by 400-500 kg.� The Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), which are jointly developing NP-1, is burning the midnight oil to iron out what they call "nagging developmental issues".
�NP-1 is a trainer with tandem seating and NP-2 will be a singleseat fighter
�Insiders associated with the programme attributed the delay in NP-1's first flight to the undercarriage, built by HAL.� "In September 2010, we observed that the undercarriage was over-sized.� During traction-retraction and the undercarriage's incorporation into the fuselage, there were many surprises awaiting us.
This is a very critical piece with the hitting impact on the ship going to be much higher," an official with HAL's Aircraft Research and Design Centre (ARDC) said. The official said the issues related to the arrestor hook, landing gear and LEVCONs (control surfaces which allow better low-speed handling) were being addressed completely. With the Naval Project Team (NPT) monitoring every bit of the NP-I closely, the official told Express that all future aircraft in the naval programme would come with a new undercarriage.
�In September, NP-1 had successfully completed the engine ground run (EGR) and the taxi trials are set to begin soon� "We will fly the NP-I with the same undercarriage making some slight corrections.
�If a smaller undercarriage has to be integrated now, it will delay the programme further. Young boys are putting their hearts out and working seven days a week
�Making planes are not child's play," he added.� Sources at ADA say efforts are in full swing to make the NP-1 fly ahead of Navy Day (December 4). Captain Maolankar of National Flight Test Centre is likely to fly the NP-1 on its maiden flight.
�During the roll-out of the NP-1 on July 6, 2010, an excited Defence Minister A K Antony had announced that he was confident that the ADA-HAL-Navy team would make it fly by December end (2010). "It will be the best New Year gift to the nation," Antony had said then. With yet another New Year throttling down for a landing, it is left to be seen whether Team NP-1 can gift Antony an X'mas gift in the form of a first flight.
First flight of LCA NP-1 delayed - southindia - Bangalore - ibnlive
Oct 27, 2011
BANGALORE: It's official� The undercarriage of the naval version (Naval Prototype NP-1) of India's Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) is bulky by 400-500 kg.� The Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), which are jointly developing NP-1, is burning the midnight oil to iron out what they call "nagging developmental issues".
�NP-1 is a trainer with tandem seating and NP-2 will be a singleseat fighter
�Insiders associated with the programme attributed the delay in NP-1's first flight to the undercarriage, built by HAL.� "In September 2010, we observed that the undercarriage was over-sized.� During traction-retraction and the undercarriage's incorporation into the fuselage, there were many surprises awaiting us.
This is a very critical piece with the hitting impact on the ship going to be much higher," an official with HAL's Aircraft Research and Design Centre (ARDC) said. The official said the issues related to the arrestor hook, landing gear and LEVCONs (control surfaces which allow better low-speed handling) were being addressed completely. With the Naval Project Team (NPT) monitoring every bit of the NP-I closely, the official told Express that all future aircraft in the naval programme would come with a new undercarriage.
�In September, NP-1 had successfully completed the engine ground run (EGR) and the taxi trials are set to begin soon� "We will fly the NP-I with the same undercarriage making some slight corrections.
�If a smaller undercarriage has to be integrated now, it will delay the programme further. Young boys are putting their hearts out and working seven days a week
�Making planes are not child's play," he added.� Sources at ADA say efforts are in full swing to make the NP-1 fly ahead of Navy Day (December 4). Captain Maolankar of National Flight Test Centre is likely to fly the NP-1 on its maiden flight.
�During the roll-out of the NP-1 on July 6, 2010, an excited Defence Minister A K Antony had announced that he was confident that the ADA-HAL-Navy team would make it fly by December end (2010). "It will be the best New Year gift to the nation," Antony had said then. With yet another New Year throttling down for a landing, it is left to be seen whether Team NP-1 can gift Antony an X'mas gift in the form of a first flight.
First flight of LCA NP-1 delayed - southindia - Bangalore - ibnlive
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^^ Sandeep, I think he's talking about the Tejas-types of aircraft that all countries have.
To Pashya001:
- SAAB JAS-39 Gripen that is operating in the air forces of Sweden, South Africa, Thailand, Czech Republic and Hungary.
- Tejas will be joining us next year-2013.
- F-16 A/B/C/D variants operational in more than a dozen countries that will either replace it with Gripens or F-35s or some other platforms.
So roughly more than a score of countries have the Tejas "type" of jets.
To Pashya001:
- SAAB JAS-39 Gripen that is operating in the air forces of Sweden, South Africa, Thailand, Czech Republic and Hungary.
- Tejas will be joining us next year-2013.
- F-16 A/B/C/D variants operational in more than a dozen countries that will either replace it with Gripens or F-35s or some other platforms.
So roughly more than a score of countries have the Tejas "type" of jets.
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Pukestan uses FC1, which was built and developed in PRC, however for the namesake they are considered to be Pukestani indigenous plane
CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Oh! BTW that plane was not even purchased in large numbers by the Chinesse themselves.
CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Oh! BTW that plane was not even purchased in large numbers by the Chinesse themselves.
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pashya001 , if you are talking about techniquies for aircraft like LCA , than add one more -
Mako is an advanced trainer and light combat aircraft developed at the EADS , Germany.
Mako Advanced Trainer and Light Attack Aircraft - Airforce Technology
Mako is an advanced trainer and light combat aircraft developed at the EADS , Germany.
Mako Advanced Trainer and Light Attack Aircraft - Airforce Technology
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"Light Combat Aircraft" or LCA is a designation used by MoD/ IAF and HAL. Broadly it means aircrafts belonging to the sub-ten (<10) tonnes weight range. There are several different aircrafts of this type -
The most famous is of course the Mig-21 and all it's clones/ copies. In that same category, the western aircraft were the F-11 tiger and the Mirage III and Mirage V of old and the new generation of JAS Gripen and the F-16. Although technically the F-16 will fall under the "Medium" category by MoD/ IAF standards (<20 but >10 tonnes category). China has several of the "light weight" aircrafts - the JF-17 they sold to PAF are actually clones of Mig-21 with upgraded engines and avionics (probably equivalent to Mig-21 Bisons, but with more recent airframes). The JH-7s and JH-8s will also belong to this category. The J-10s will also fall in this category since they closely match the F-16s in specs.
The most famous is of course the Mig-21 and all it's clones/ copies. In that same category, the western aircraft were the F-11 tiger and the Mirage III and Mirage V of old and the new generation of JAS Gripen and the F-16. Although technically the F-16 will fall under the "Medium" category by MoD/ IAF standards (<20 but >10 tonnes category). China has several of the "light weight" aircrafts - the JF-17 they sold to PAF are actually clones of Mig-21 with upgraded engines and avionics (probably equivalent to Mig-21 Bisons, but with more recent airframes). The JH-7s and JH-8s will also belong to this category. The J-10s will also fall in this category since they closely match the F-16s in specs.
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