2020 US election and its Impact on India Megathread

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If he manages to cut Chinese access to the Western or even American market, there will be trouble for China. This is exactly what he is doing right now (although with the sophistication of a drunk elephant). He is targetting Chinese students in Western Universities and tracking research funding as well. Nothing he has done has been benefitial to China, he gave up on improving relations after the NoKo debacle, imo.

NATO is going to come out stronger from this, with most European nations increasing defense spending and with UK out, they have to spend more on defense as well, since there is no EU to count on anymore.

US withdrawal from WHO was a given, considerng the lack of transparency shown by them. And US does not benefit from WHO at all (unlike India and other poor countries). It was a money sink for them, and considering they lost influence there despite being the largest donor, they were bound to be pissed.

His Climate Change denial is something that works in China's favor 100% though. Cutting subsidies to clean energy companies while increasing fracking and oil production might have boosted the economy in the short term, but in the long run it will hurt America when all research and manufacturing for solar and batteries will move to China.

China is playing it wisely, I think. They are targeting Trump's political allies and not the US in general. This shows that his policies have hurt them a bit and they are not ready to antagonize America completely as of yet and hope for some reconciliation as if/when the government changes.

Btw, China took the most advantage of these organizations which gave it access to the world market while it closed of its own. An insular west will not help it, at all.
Trump is actually pretty smart in foreign policy. His NATO allies are now forced pay a lot more for defence but this doesn't mean most countries in NATO depend less on the US. If anything they intrinsically depend on it more. Most EU and NATO countries are weak on the inside, they lack balls. Trump possesses more balls than all of them so they are deeply happy he is in charge. Keep in mind the deep-state in the US is always looking for the next regional project, Trump keeps the MIC happy with big fat orders, pushes for allies to buy more American, avoids wars but will authorize occasional missions to keep them niggas in check.

Pushing for fairer trade deals is also a big win. Many forget that EU, India, China are quite protectionist for a long time.

Climate science and technology is still a big investments in the US and that's not going to change just because of oil and gas strength they have now. Various states have a lot of local regulations for emissions and such.

Suleimani, Bagdadi, dropping heavy ordnance on Russian mercenaries were obvious masterstrokes. The Dems are whores for the longest time, they are the slave masters, the racists, fascists. The dems sadly control the major institutions, the media, most universities, Hollywood, they pack the court with lib judges, weak with MIC (hence easy to get the latest war going). For a long time the dems and squishy republicans (Mitt Romney, McCain, John Bolton) types were in bed with the Dems for all kinds of shitty policies. Trump is indeed the one guy and his band of patriots are set about 'Draining the Swamp'.

US being a bitch and fucking around in different regions is a bad thing. Afghan, Syria, Iraq, Libya are gigantic screw-ups. For the longest time, they have been focused outward. It is high time they focus on the inside, take a good stock of the current culture war and vote Trump, it's the only way for them to get out of decades of cultural decline.

Another 4 years of Trump is needed to gut the leftists, whores, pedos, mullahs, . The Swamp is very powerful, they collude with Russia( fake pee-pee dossier), China (Kung Flu) and yet he fights.

2020 is most important election since the Civil War.
 

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My desi friends thankfully are not Democrats

https://www.dawn.com/news/1568227
Biden as president will raise Kashmir issue with India, says his adviser

Anwar IqbalUpdated Jul 11 2020
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Democrat president nominee Joe Biden's foreign policy adviser declares that concerns on recent Indian law that discriminates against Muslims will be conveyed to Delhi. -- AFP/File


WASHINGTON: The Biden administration, if elected, will raise the issue of Kashmir with India and would also convey its concerns on a recent Indian law that discriminates against Muslims, says the Biden campaign’s foreign policy adviser, Antony Blinken.
In a Thursday afternoon dialogue on American foreign policy at the Hudson Institute, Washington, Blinken also said that the Trump administration’s Iran strategy had “backfired in a massive way”.
Blinken, who is a former deputy national security adviser and deputy secretary of state, has been tasked with drafting the foreign policy of the Biden campaign. As moderator Walter Russel Mead noted, Blinken’s views have become increasingly important because former vice president Joe Biden’s victory in the November election has moved from “a possibility to a likelihood”.
It was Mead who raised the issue of Kashmir in the conversation, pointing out that India had some serious human rights and democracy issues, particularly with Muslims, in Kashmir and elsewhere.
“We obviously have challenges now and real concerns, for example, about some of the actions the Indian government has taken, particularly in cracking down on freedom of movement and freedom of speech in Kashmir, and about some of the laws on citizenship,” said Blinken while responding to the moderator.
Blinken declares that concerns on recent Indian law that discriminates against Muslims will be conveyed to Delhi
“You are always better in engaging with a partner, and with a vitally important one like India, when you can speak frankly and directly about areas where you have differences, even as you are working to build a greater cooperation,” he added.
Blinken said that this would be the Biden administration’s approach while discussing Kashmir and other issues with India because “we have seen evidence that it works”.
Mead noted that while India was a democracy, “it has somewhat a different view of what that might mean than we do”.
Blinken pointed out that while tearing up the US-Iran nuclear agreement in May 2018, the Trump administration claimed that it would negotiate a better deal and the abrogation would make the Middle East a safer place, but it failed to achieve both objectives.
“In fact, the opposite has happened,” said Blinken, adding that the action isolated the US from the partners who helped negotiate the agreement.
“And much more importantly, Iran is restarting dangerous components of its nuclear programme, putting itself in a position where it has a greater capacity to develop a nuclear weapon now than it did when it signed the agreement,” he said.
The Biden administration, he said, would avoid “schizophrenic see-saw” of the Trump administration on Iran, which has brought the world to the brink of a conflict.
Published in Dawn, July 11th, 2020
 

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Biden is a disaster waiting to happen,

He would be the most cuckold president in US history,
To top it, there seems to be something wrong with his wiring. Not sure he can recognize his right testicle from his left one,
 

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California is a strongly democratic state.. not surprising.
If you are not living in a state historically republican, then this is good.
I live in a swing state. I showed Joe Biden's anti Indian stand to some people active in the Indian assocations in US. They are spreading the word.
 

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California is a strongly democratic state.. not surprising.

If you are not living in a state historically republican, then this is good.
I live in a swing state. I showed Joe Biden's anti Indian stand to some people active in the Indian assocations in US. They are spreading the word.
Cali buddy. No way it will swing in Cali.. but still nice to see some realize the issues with the left.
 

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NRI here. The major reason I and many NRIs support Modi:
Dignity/respect. Because of him, India is seen as an important/powerful country. It was not so previously. We were considered another 3rd world country. Modi changed that perception of the world.

There are many other reasons I support him:
--Surgical strike, air strikes: It's a shame that after 2008, we took no action against Pak. Had it been US, they would bombed the hell out of their enemy. But we did nothing. Modi changed it.
-- He is not corrupt. His intent is good. I just wish he has more able people in his team.
etc.
 

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Biden seeks restoration of peoples’ rights in Kashmir; disappointed with NRC, CAA

Democratic presidential nominee and former vice president Joe Biden wants India to take necessary steps to restore rights of all Kashmiris, and has expressed disappointment over the Citizenship (Amendment) Act and the implementation of the NRC in Assam. These measures are inconsistent with the country’s long tradition of secularism and with sustaining a multi-ethnic and multi-religious democracy, according to the policy paper — Joe Biden’s agenda for Muslim American community’ posted recently on his campaign website. A group of Hindu Americans have reached out to the Biden campaign expressing their resentment to the language used against India and have urged them to reconsider their views. The group has also sought a similar policy paper on Hindu Americans. The Biden campaign did not respond to questions in this regard. Observing that Biden understands the pain Muslim-Americans feel towards what is happening in Muslim-majority countries and countries with significant Muslim populations, the policy paper clubbed together Kashmir and Assam in India with the forced detention of over a million Uyghur Muslims in western China, and discrimination and atrocities against Burma’s Rohingya Muslim minority. “In Kashmir, the Indian government should take all necessary steps to restore rights of all the people of Kashmir. Restrictions on dissent, such as preventing peaceful protests or shutting or slowing down the Internet, weakens democracy,” said the policy paper on Muslim Americans. “Joe Biden has been disappointed by the measures that the government of India has taken with the implementation and aftermath of the National Register of Citizens in Assam and the passage of the Citizenship Amendment Act into law,” it said. “Biden as United States Senator for decades and as vice president under President Barack Obama for eight years has been known as one of the best friends of India and Indian-Americans,” it said. “He played a key role in the passage of the India-US civilian nuclear deal, and as vice president, he advocated increasing the bilateral trade to USD500 billion per annum. Well connected with the Indian Americans, Biden regularly hosted Diwali at his vice-presidential residence,” it said. Biden understands the issues impacting India, issues of cross border terrorism, influx of terrorism across borders in Kashmir, issue of Hindu minorities sufferings in Kashmir, issues in Indo Pacific region with China, and the rising role of India as stronger US ally in all areas including economic growth, counter-terrorism, fight for human rights, climate change and global security, Biden supporter Ajay Jain Bhutoria told PTI. There are groups within various elected officials groups in US pushing language and agenda’s highlighting misinformation and damaging facts on how India handled its own internal matter on Kashmir, Ladakh or immigration reforms related to NRC, rued Bhutoria, who is also on the National Finance Committee for Biden. Bhutoria said US recently updated its immigration policy to block the H-1B and other visas for rest of the year to safeguard its own workers, which is completely questionable and will hurt the economy. “India too has a right to define its own Immigration policy to support its population and economy,” he said. “I grew up in Assam, Guwahati and I have seen the influx of people across the border and taking away important jobs, resources from local people in northeastern states,” he said. “The immigration reforms and NRC are welcome steps. Execution of these reforms and strategies need to be improved and India needs to do better in change management and rolling out of reforms,” Bhutoria said
My desi friends thankfully are not Democrats

https://www.dawn.com/news/1568227
Biden as president will raise Kashmir issue with India, says his adviser

Anwar IqbalUpdated Jul 11 2020
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Democrat president nominee Joe Biden's foreign policy adviser declares that concerns on recent Indian law that discriminates against Muslims will be conveyed to Delhi. -- AFP/File


WASHINGTON: The Biden administration, if elected, will raise the issue of Kashmir with India and would also convey its concerns on a recent Indian law that discriminates against Muslims, says the Biden campaign’s foreign policy adviser, Antony Blinken.
In a Thursday afternoon dialogue on American foreign policy at the Hudson Institute, Washington, Blinken also said that the Trump administration’s Iran strategy had “backfired in a massive way”.
Blinken, who is a former deputy national security adviser and deputy secretary of state, has been tasked with drafting the foreign policy of the Biden campaign. As moderator Walter Russel Mead noted, Blinken’s views have become increasingly important because former vice president Joe Biden’s victory in the November election has moved from “a possibility to a likelihood”.
It was Mead who raised the issue of Kashmir in the conversation, pointing out that India had some serious human rights and democracy issues, particularly with Muslims, in Kashmir and elsewhere.
“We obviously have challenges now and real concerns, for example, about some of the actions the Indian government has taken, particularly in cracking down on freedom of movement and freedom of speech in Kashmir, and about some of the laws on citizenship,” said Blinken while responding to the moderator.

“You are always better in engaging with a partner, and with a vitally important one like India, when you can speak frankly and directly about areas where you have differences, even as you are working to build a greater cooperation,” he added.
Blinken said that this would be the Biden administration’s approach while discussing Kashmir and other issues with India because “we have seen evidence that it works”.
Mead noted that while India was a democracy, “it has somewhat a different view of what that might mean than we do”.
Blinken pointed out that while tearing up the US-Iran nuclear agreement in May 2018, the Trump administration claimed that it would negotiate a better deal and the abrogation would make the Middle East a safer place, but it failed to achieve both objectives.
“In fact, the opposite has happened,” said Blinken, adding that the action isolated the US from the partners who helped negotiate the agreement.
“And much more importantly, Iran is restarting dangerous components of its nuclear programme, putting itself in a position where it has a greater capacity to develop a nuclear weapon now than it did when it signed the agreement,” he said.
The Biden administration, he said, would avoid “schizophrenic see-saw” of the Trump administration on Iran, which has brought the world to the brink of a conflict.
Published in Dawn, July 11th, 2020
Biden may pick an Indian-American senator, Kamala Harris
Check this thing's out.

India's relationship is with USA but it also requires team effort by leader's to actively push forward to develop more advanced relationship.

If biden ends up taking hard stance on kashmir then it will become disastrous for Indo-US relationship.
 

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Supporting greater civil rights for Kashmiris makes a person pro-India, not anti-India. Was the BJP anti-India when they opposed Indira Gandhi's dictatorship? Supporting civil rights and democracy, the foundation of modern India, make someone pro-India.

Biden voted in 2008 to support the India-United States Civil Nuclear Agreement. He supports easier immigration and naturalization, something that would benefit NRIs and their families back home by allowing greater remittances and knowledge transfer. Biden has been in politics a long time and developed a reputation an honest, moral, compassionate man. He supports and wants to do everything possible to further India's rise.
 

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Supporting greater civil rights for Kashmiris makes a person pro-India, not anti-India. Was the BJP anti-India when they opposed Indira Gandhi's dictatorship? Supporting civil rights and democracy, the foundation of modern India, make someone pro-India.
Oh really?
How removal of article 370 is decreasing rights of kashmiri people? Do you even know what article 370 is and what evils it brought? Now kashmiri people will get full rights as a normal indian citizens woman will get full rights to live.
And comparing modi with indra gandhi itself looks so funny he won elections with total majority but you are hell bent in comparing him with indra which over threw the constitution of india.

Those people which support isis jihadi ideology support kashmiri hate and Pakistani terrorism by saying article 370 was good.

But this duality is expected by American intellectuals after all they love the civil rights which are promised by Islamic republics.
 

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Supporting civil rights and democracy, the foundation of modern India, make someone pro-India.
Those people which undermine sovereignty of india are no friend of india.

We don't need foreign biased intellectuals teach india about rights and BS We ain't a banana republic. Kashmir is domestic affair of india non of the American or xyz president be it xi or anyone don't have any right to interfere in that.

Every decision which GOI takes is supported by mass majority of the people in india and law cannot be implemented in Kashmir without hard measures because of rise of isis ideology.
 

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