2020 US election and its Impact on India Megathread

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If he manages to cut Chinese access to the Western or even American market, there will be trouble for China. This is exactly what he is doing right now (although with the sophistication of a drunk elephant). He is targetting Chinese students in Western Universities and tracking research funding as well. Nothing he has done has been benefitial to China, he gave up on improving relations after the NoKo debacle, imo.

NATO is going to come out stronger from this, with most European nations increasing defense spending and with UK out, they have to spend more on defense as well, since there is no EU to count on anymore.

US withdrawal from WHO was a given, considerng the lack of transparency shown by them. And US does not benefit from WHO at all (unlike India and other poor countries). It was a money sink for them, and considering they lost influence there despite being the largest donor, they were bound to be pissed.

His Climate Change denial is something that works in China's favor 100% though. Cutting subsidies to clean energy companies while increasing fracking and oil production might have boosted the economy in the short term, but in the long run it will hurt America when all research and manufacturing for solar and batteries will move to China.

China is playing it wisely, I think. They are targeting Trump's political allies and not the US in general. This shows that his policies have hurt them a bit and they are not ready to antagonize America completely as of yet and hope for some reconciliation as if/when the government changes.

Btw, China took the most advantage of these organizations which gave it access to the world market while it closed of its own. An insular west will not help it, at all.
I do not think he'll go for total insulation of Chinese from participation in US market or other way around. There is too much financial exposure. He knows how to keep market in right humor. Happy street might as well become responsible for his re-election. It would be more of this vs that deal handed out to other western states & market participants. American/European giants do absolutely need that sweet disposable income of Chinese middle/upper-middle class. Anyone preventing that will find it extremely difficult to maintain support.

His rhetoric follows the street sentiments. All the hype of upcoming strong action in last couple of days was done at the onset of markets getting comfortable. Trump gets cover from stock market like none of the US prez in recent history. And he uses it well cleverly, stepped up the rhetoric & attacked China but shied away from actionable sanctions or tarrifs. Investors are ogling at the prospects of entry point as index consolidates, thanks to Trump. He needs China as partner and as a villain. Its brilliant. I remember someone had even mapped, occurrence of news stories with phrases "US-China" against S&P performance. And no surprises, they follow same pattern.

China doesn't mind it either. They seem to have got around knowing that its a rhetoric & posturing, necessary for political support; and his confrontational approach is passed off as a sign of strong leader to domestic audience. Because behind all that talk, Trump doesn't really care about human rights; let alone HK/Taiwan. And China knows it well. They understand Trump is a business-minded president, so despite their protest on midnight tweets or rants on animals in US administration; they'd rather cut a deal and move on. Its just less work and that probably makes them prefer Trump to any other candidate.
 
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I am saying again Trump looks like he has uphill task . 2016 was completely different story it was the hate against killary which helped trump . This time he has so many issues , Pandemic handling was pathetic , riots handling also screwed up 13 % Afro american votes are going to swing completely towards biden .

It will be simply a miracle if trump gets re elected , He will go down more like an one time POTUS

in 2016 Clinton was supposed to win a land-slide.

Clinton was like 100% sure to win.

This time, Trump will win a land-slide.
 

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I am saying again Trump looks like he has uphill task . 2016 was completely different story it was the hate against killary which helped trump . This time he has so many issues , Pandemic handling was pathetic , riots handling also screwed up 13 % Afro american votes are going to swing completely towards biden .

It will be simply a miracle if trump gets re elected , He will go down more like an one time POTUS
black vote was never coming to him. pandemic handling is largely on governors as federal government can only do so much. he's coming back to power as the silent white vote will go in his favor.
 

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in 2016 Clinton was supposed to win a land-slide.

Clinton was like 100% sure to win.

This time, Trump will win a land-slide.
In any other country she would have won in a landslide. USA is perhaps the only democratic country where you can lose the election and yet get more votes than your opponent. Some really messed up system they have. But both knew how the system works, so ... fair win for Trump.405D659F-E163-43F5-974F-DD6F87B4328F.png
 

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I am saying again Trump looks like he has uphill task . 2016 was completely different story it was the hate against killary which helped trump . This time he has so many issues , Pandemic handling was pathetic , riots handling also screwed up 13 % Afro american votes are going to swing completely towards biden .

It will be simply a miracle if trump gets re elected , He will go down more like an one time POTUS
Those riots and all the violence and democratic pandering to leftist could also rally the whites to vote for Trump.

Democrats are now supporting defund the police!!
White people are being forced to kneel!

People weren't allowed to attain funeral of dear once due to corona and now democrats are supporting open riots and mass gathering while churches are still closed!!

This all might just backfire on lefty democrats. Not to mention joe Biden would be murdered in debates by Trump.
 

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In any other country she would have won in a landslide. USA is perhaps the only democratic country where you can lose the election and yet get more votes than your opponent. Some really messed up system they have. But both knew how the system works, so ... fair win for Trump.View attachment 49659
Would the french chose a leader who called half the french deplorables!!

She was just as much as hated as trump. She got more votes because entire media was on her side. Yet she lost key states .
 

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A bad feeling that China actually prefers Trump re-elected than anyone else straight-up :tinfoil:
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Interviews with nine current and former Chinese officials point to a shift in sentiment in favour of the sitting president even though he has spent much of the past four years blaming Beijing for everything from US trade imbalances to Covid-19.

The chief reason? A belief that the benefit of the erosion of America's post-war alliance network would outweigh any damage to China from continued trade disputes and geopolitical instability.
Four current officials echoed that sentiment, saying many in the Chinese government believed a Trump victory could help Beijing by weakening what they saw as Washington's greatest asset for checking China's widening influence.
Chinese officials privately acknowledge that a Democratic administration might prove more formidable if it worked with allies to present a united front.
 

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A report by Bloomberg against trump !! Color me surprised.

China knows democrats want more business with china . Trump on the other hand is already wrecking havoc on huwei to chinese student all at once.

Chinese are firmly in Soros -democrats camp. They might want to pretend to like trump to hurt trump by association.. I don't think American will buy it though.
 

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In any other country she would have won in a landslide. USA is perhaps the only democratic country where you can lose the election and yet get more votes than your opponent. Some really messed up system they have. But both knew how the system works, so ... fair win for Trump.View attachment 49659
The US was never a pure democracy, it's a Republic by nature and based on Federalist principles. Everything including the electoral college was a deliberate choice. Electoral college ensures the candidate needs to campaign in larger yet less populated states else you end up having the case of the coastal belt deciding the election while an entire swath of the country wouldn't have a fair say. It also ensures power is deligated to various branches. All 3 branches the Congress, Judiciary and Executive are co-equal. States have plenty of power. It's not perfect but they have survived over 200 years being a constitutional republic, self correcting over time. There is always reform needed but the Democrats and left are essentially enemies of the state at this point.
 

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The US was never a pure democracy, it's a Republic by nature and based on Federalist principles. Everything including the electoral college was a deliberate choice. Electoral college ensures the candidate needs to campaign in larger yet less populated states else you end up having the case of the coastal belt deciding the election while an entire swath of the country wouldn't have a fair say. It also ensures power is deligated to various branches. All 3 branches the Congress, Judiciary and Executive are co-equal. States have plenty of power. It's not perfect but they have survived over 200 years being a constitutional republic, self correcting over time. There is always reform needed but the Democrats and left are essentially enemies of the state at this point.
This is a very accurate painting of the American system. Nothing there I can disagree with, except the last two lines !
The Democrats are not the ennemy of the state. Trump is the ennemy ! And it is not my humble opinion alone, it is the opinion of plenty of old school Republicans who have known him and practised him, I can make a long list, but I will only mention Bolton, Senator Mc Cain (Rest in Peace), Romney. The top brass military has no better opinion of him, see “Mad Dog” Mattis lately. The CIA, the FBI, all see Trump as a threat to national security.
 
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A good example of Trump alienating America’s allies is his recent announcement of retiring thousands of troops from Germany. And he does this right after Berlin chooses F-/A 18 as a replacement for half its Tornadoes’ fleet.

Not that I am going to complain about this. It strenghtens the French / German alliance in the making for all thing military, but that is another debate.
 
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Biden seeks restoration of peoples’ rights in Kashmir; disappointed with NRC, CAA

Democratic presidential nominee and former vice president Joe Biden wants India to take necessary steps to restore rights of all Kashmiris, and has expressed disappointment over the Citizenship (Amendment) Act and the implementation of the NRC in Assam. These measures are inconsistent with the country’s long tradition of secularism and with sustaining a multi-ethnic and multi-religious democracy, according to the policy paper — Joe Biden’s agenda for Muslim American community’ posted recently on his campaign website. A group of Hindu Americans have reached out to the Biden campaign expressing their resentment to the language used against India and have urged them to reconsider their views. The group has also sought a similar policy paper on Hindu Americans. The Biden campaign did not respond to questions in this regard. Observing that Biden understands the pain Muslim-Americans feel towards what is happening in Muslim-majority countries and countries with significant Muslim populations, the policy paper clubbed together Kashmir and Assam in India with the forced detention of over a million Uyghur Muslims in western China, and discrimination and atrocities against Burma’s Rohingya Muslim minority. “In Kashmir, the Indian government should take all necessary steps to restore rights of all the people of Kashmir. Restrictions on dissent, such as preventing peaceful protests or shutting or slowing down the Internet, weakens democracy,” said the policy paper on Muslim Americans. “Joe Biden has been disappointed by the measures that the government of India has taken with the implementation and aftermath of the National Register of Citizens in Assam and the passage of the Citizenship Amendment Act into law,” it said. “Biden as United States Senator for decades and as vice president under President Barack Obama for eight years has been known as one of the best friends of India and Indian-Americans,” it said. “He played a key role in the passage of the India-US civilian nuclear deal, and as vice president, he advocated increasing the bilateral trade to USD500 billion per annum. Well connected with the Indian Americans, Biden regularly hosted Diwali at his vice-presidential residence,” it said. Biden understands the issues impacting India, issues of cross border terrorism, influx of terrorism across borders in Kashmir, issue of Hindu minorities sufferings in Kashmir, issues in Indo Pacific region with China, and the rising role of India as stronger US ally in all areas including economic growth, counter-terrorism, fight for human rights, climate change and global security, Biden supporter Ajay Jain Bhutoria told PTI. There are groups within various elected officials groups in US pushing language and agenda’s highlighting misinformation and damaging facts on how India handled its own internal matter on Kashmir, Ladakh or immigration reforms related to NRC, rued Bhutoria, who is also on the National Finance Committee for Biden. Bhutoria said US recently updated its immigration policy to block the H-1B and other visas for rest of the year to safeguard its own workers, which is completely questionable and will hurt the economy. “India too has a right to define its own Immigration policy to support its population and economy,” he said. “I grew up in Assam, Guwahati and I have seen the influx of people across the border and taking away important jobs, resources from local people in northeastern states,” he said. “The immigration reforms and NRC are welcome steps. Execution of these reforms and strategies need to be improved and India needs to do better in change management and rolling out of reforms,” Bhutoria said
 

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BREAKING NEWS!!!

Hip-hop musician Kanye West announces White House bid


Kanye West declares he will run for US president in 2020

Advantage Trump!
This will split more of the democratic votes than republican, if Kanye actually contests.
 

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