2016 India–Pakistan military confrontation

[hammer head]

It is not "Kheyali Pulao".

If Army convoys are escorted by GPMG or HMG mounted Mahindra Mine Protected Vehicles, perhaps lots of Army convoy attacks could have been prevented.

Successful attacks on convoys are primarily because of the poor response time or the non availability of QRT in the vicinity of the targetted vehicles. Terrorist are smart enough to attack the buses carrying troops always and they under all conditions avoid the QRT because they know they will eat lead. Mounting a GPMG is simply of no use tactically, best response is men with assaults rifles simply firing back in the direction from where the fire has come.

 

[India22]

Successful attacks on convoys are primarily because of the poor response time or the non availability of QRT in the vicinity of the targetted vehicles. Terrorist are smart enough to attack the buses carrying troops always and they under all conditions avoid the QRT because they know they will eat lead. Mounting a GPMG is simply of no use tactically, best response is men with assaults rifles simply firing back in the direction from where the fire has come.

You cant fire assault rifles from trucks or buses effectively. You need a GPMG or HMG mounted on a vehicle to provide covering fire while troops in trucks and buses take cover then you attack enemy positions with GPMG or HMG with intensely. In Nagaland when the unfortunate Army convoy was attacked there was no bus, only trucks. I know the convoy was not following rules still as terrorists had RPG it would have mattered little.

That's why US army uses GPMG mounted Humvees on combat patrolling. Since GPMGs mounted can be rotated so no matter from what side attack comes, GPMG mounted soldier sprays bullet in that direction, breaking the attack, allowing soldiers to take cover and fire back and providing suppressing fire.

 

[Akshay_Fenix]

Sartaj aziz not allowed to visit golden temple, not allowed to talk to media. Paki delegations were housed in seperate hotel and were not allowed to have any guests.

 

[Bornubus]

Is this a revenge for Nagrota and 2 beheadings ?

Anyways Diplomacy is based on reciprocity, Rajnath and Indian media was treated the same way by Pakis.

 

[ezsasa]

Sartaj aziz not allowed to visit golden temple, not allowed to talk to media. Paki delegations were housed in seperate hotel and were not allowed to have any guests.

The infamous Indian Red Tape of babus have some benefits, after all...

The reason given was security issues it seems.

 

[prohumanity]

Sartaj Aziz is the one old dude who likes to meet terrorists like Gilani....its right thing not to let his dirty feet on the floor of sacred Golden Temple.
These are the people who want to instigate our Punjabi brothers and sisters to re create Khalistani terrorism which Indira Gandhi the great...crushed in 1985 and Paki got disappointed.

 

[hammer head]

You cant fire assault rifles from trucks or buses effectively. You need a GPMG or HMG mounted on a vehicle to provide covering fire while troops in trucks and buses take cover then you attack enemy positions with GPMG or HMG with intensely. In Nagaland when the unfortunate Army convoy was attacked there was no bus, only trucks. I know the convoy was not following rules still as terrorists had RPG it would have mattered little.

That's why US army uses GPMG mounted Humvees on combat patrolling. Since GPMGs mounted can be rotated so no matter from what side attack comes, GPMG mounted soldier sprays bullet in that direction, breaking the attack, allowing soldiers to take cover and fire back and providing suppressing fire.

Well buddy in India a convoy comprises of well above 50 veh including Civil hired buses,, 2.5 tonn and many more all these veh cant afford to have a GPMG mounted on them. Secondly, you mentioned American using GPMG .Well it suits them but not us and that is because
Nonavailability of adequate no of these guns
Thier convoys far too smaller compared us
Add to it the terrain of Jammu and kashmir the road condition and the general traffic conditions

However i stand with your opinion that we can have it mounted on our vehs as it gives you heavy fire.For the time being Army mounts The Bren LMG alongside INSAS LMG on it veh.

 

[Akshay_Fenix]

Nagrota Attackers Part of 20-30 Terrorists Still Hiding in India’

The terrorists who attacked the Nagrota Army base in Jammu and Kashmir were part of a larger group of 20 to 30 terrorists who crossed over to India between November 12 and 18, sources told CNN News18.

The terrorists infiltrated in small teams and an operation is underway to hunt them down in in Kathua, Jammu and Pathankot regions, sources said.

The terrorists reportedly have access to police and Army uniforms and are planning to target family members of Army personnel.

Sources also said the Nagrota base attackers were on a suicide mission.Seven soldiers, including two officers, were killed in a dawn attack on Nagrota Army base on November 29. Three terrorists were also killed in the encounter.

 

[tharun]

crossed over to India between November 12 and 18

How come they cross in to our country and get shelter....?

 

[ezsasa]

Nagrota Attackers Part of 20-30 Terrorists Still Hiding in India’

The terrorists who attacked the Nagrota Army base in Jammu and Kashmir were part of a larger group of 20 to 30 terrorists who crossed over to India between November 12 and 18, sources told CNN News18.

The terrorists infiltrated in small teams and an operation is underway to hunt them down in in Kathua, Jammu and Pathankot regions, sources said.

The terrorists reportedly have access to police and Army uniforms and are planning to target family members of Army personnel.

Sources also said the Nagrota base attackers were on a suicide mission.Seven soldiers, including two officers, were killed in a dawn attack on Nagrota Army base on November 29. Three terrorists were also killed in the encounter.

Let's see what Gaurav sawant of India Today has to say on this...

 

[LETHALFORCE]

How come they cross in to our country and get shelter....?

How come there is no death penalty for people that help terrorists ?


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[India22]

We can mount at least FN MAG on vehicles though.

How come there is no death penalty for people that help terrorists ?


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We wont be world's most tolerant democracy then. The libtards who abuse Indian army has no slightest idea as to how much lenient Indian army is compared to militaries of other world. Russian army entered Grozny with tanks. First obstacle is Artucle 370.

 

[Butter Chicken]

We wont be world's most tolerant democracy then. The libtards who abuse Indian army has no slightest idea as to how much lenient Indian army is compared to militaries of other world. Russian army entered Grozny with tanks. First obstacle is Artucle 370.

Exactly.The same Pukis who cry about Kashmiri Sunnis bomb Tribal Pathans and Baloch with F-16 and Gunships

 

[Tony HMG]

Porkies will now get more local support from 5000 rohingya Muslims given shelter in Jammu.this shit done by kangres.Why don't we deport these zombies? This silence after nagrota is too painful. It looks like multiple surgical strikes will do squat to stop pakis.They kill more in these terror attacks.Kill the paki leaders.kill those mofo leaders of jem, let, isi, paki army.Kill their children n ladies studying abroad.Kill their army school child piglets.Or we have this self ass whooping war for ever.

 

[Bornubus]

Porkies will now get more local support from 5000 rohingya Muslims given shelter in Jammu.this shit done by kangres.Why don't we deport these zombies? This silence after nagrota is too painful. It looks like multiple surgical will do squat to stop pakis.They kill more in these terror attacks.Kill the leaders.kill those mofo leaders if jem, let, isi. Kill their children n ladies studying abroad.Or we have this self ass whooping war for ever.

The only way is to punish Paki Army and Paki civilians at LOC when Jihadis kill even one of ours. Remember the Paki casualties in Bus that they came begging for mercy.


Unless we deliver the same pain to Pakis over LOC this Punjabi jihad won't ever stop.


Sure there will be casualties on our sides too but we have the capability to inflict more damage to Pakis if and only if the pussies sitting in Delhi grow some balls.

 

[raheel besharam]

Porkies will now get more local support from 5000 rohingya Muslims given shelter in Jammu.this shit done by kangres.Why don't we deport these zombies? This silence after nagrota is too painful. It looks like multiple surgical strikes will do squat to stop pakis.They kill more in these terror attacks.Kill the leaders.kill those mofo leaders if jem, let, isi. Kill their children n ladies studying abroad.Or we have this self ass whooping war for ever.

Who broght so many bengali rohingyas in jammu??? this is just another plan to get rid of non mulim population of Jammu because they resist to take part in pro freedom movement of Kashmir

 

[Tony HMG]

Who broght so many bengali rohingyas in jammu??? this is just another plan to get rid of non mulim population of Jammu because they resist to take part in pro freedom movement of Kashmir

This looks like a big plan by isi to garner more support in j n k.Were there rohingyas killed in j n k in encounters? Kangress for its votebank will even bring in Isis to India.

 

[Tony HMG]

@Bornubus

You are absolutely correct. We should give them the same pain that these pigs have been giving to us.Just fcking kill their public,women and kids.Bomb their schools,colleges, power plants, dams,government buildings. We need someone like Putin to do this.We are so scared we can't even declare Pakistan a terror country.We beg to others to declare porkies a terror state.We can't cancel the mfn status to pork.What is this shit of our army being lenient? Who made this policy at the first place? FCK just kill those kashmiri pigs supporting porkies.

 

[Bornubus]

@Bornubus

You are absolutely correct. We should give them the same pain that these pigs have been giving to us.Just fcking kill their public,women and kids.Bomb their schools,colleges, power plants, dams,government buildings. We need someone like Putin to do this.We are so scared we can't even declare Pakistan a terror country.We beg to others to declare porkies a terror state.We can't cancel the mfn status to pork.What is this shit of our army being lenient? Who made this policy at the first place? FCK just kill those kashmiri pigs supporting porkies.

Only guys i am grateful in the Uri aftermath is MNS guys and Raj Thackrey who kicked those unclean Porkies out of India and to pressurize Paki lovers in Bwood not to work with them in future.


I wish if we had such Hardline govt at every level.


Also, waiting for the due retribution for Nagrota and two beheadings.

 

[Bornubus]

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