2016 India–Pakistan military confrontation

[IndianHawk]

Why are these Pigs intact????? We needed to mutilate it badly.

We need to feed them to actual pigs and export the pig meat to china.

 

[Project Dharma]

NAGROTA: Bravery of the wives of two army officers who were staying in the family quarters helped in averting a major hostage crisis during the encounter+ that took place in Nagrota area of Jammu on Tuesday.

Soon after the heavily armed terrorists disguised in police uniform entered an army unit located within three kilometers from the headquarters of the 16 Corps, they wanted to enter the family quarters where they could take the families of the soldiers and officers hostage+ .

However, due to the bravery of these two women, who were staying in the family quarters along with their newborns, the plans of the terrorists could not materialise.

"The wives of the two army officers, who were on night duty when the encounter broke out, displayed exemplary courage as they blocked the entry of their quarters with all the household items, making it difficult for the terrorists to break into the houses," an army officer privy to the encounter told PTI.

Had the women not shown this alertness, the terrorists would have been able to take them hostage and would have succeeded in causing huge damage to the army and the families, he said.

"The terrorists entered two buildings which were occupied by officers, their families. This led to a hostage-like situation. The situation was very quickly contained and thereafter, in a deliberate operation all were successfully rescued, which included 12 soldiers, two women and two babies," Defence spokesman Lt Col Manish Mehta said.

The two babies rescued are 18 months and two months old, the officer said.

However, in the rescue attempt one more officer and two jawans sacrificed their lives, the spokesman said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...verts-hostage-crisis/articleshow/55691992.cms

 

[sukhish]

with all due respect I strongly disagree with u but NDTV and the so called amman ki asha bull shit are pak proxies in India. Many times NDTV does not have basic courtesy to call a soldier a martyr .NDTV and other MSM in India are the sole reason we have wannabe politically correct idiots who make important decisions.
Just to give u an example look at this fool called Mani Shankar Aiyar who gives him a platform.We have all rights to criticize him and agencies that provide him a pro pak platform.

Just look at the article he wrote:

http://www.ndtv.com/opinion/indias-...rtaj-aziz-will-give-pak-what-it-wants-1631239

Now try explaining this to the families of the brave martyr.

try explaining to the army families as to how long will this go on even after surgical strike ? shameless nationalism is no substitute for coherent and well thought out policy. that what happens when you take actions for political expediency and in rage. keep watching the show and keep praising you leader till eternity.

 

[sukhish]

with all due respect I strongly disagree with u but NDTV and the so called amman ki asha bull shit are pak proxies in India. Many times NDTV does not have basic courtesy to call a soldier a martyr .NDTV and other MSM in India are the sole reason we have wannabe politically correct idiots who make important decisions.
Just to give u an example look at this fool called Mani Shankar Aiyar who gives him a platform.We have all rights to criticize him and agencies that provide him a pro pak platform.

Just look at the article he wrote:

http://www.ndtv.com/opinion/indias-...rtaj-aziz-will-give-pak-what-it-wants-1631239

Now try explaining this to the families of the brave martyr.

what about parrikar, is he very intelligent ? there is not a day that goes by when he does not pat himself. self praising , sloganeering is all they have left to do and why not when so many among us are hell bent on day dreaming about them.

 

[sukhish]

with all due respect I strongly disagree with u but NDTV and the so called amman ki asha bull shit are pak proxies in India. Many times NDTV does not have basic courtesy to call a soldier a martyr .NDTV and other MSM in India are the sole reason we have wannabe politically correct idiots who make important decisions.
Just to give u an example look at this fool called Mani Shankar Aiyar who gives him a platform.We have all rights to criticize him and agencies that provide him a pro pak platform.

Just look at the article he wrote:

http://www.ndtv.com/opinion/indias-...rtaj-aziz-will-give-pak-what-it-wants-1631239

Now try explaining this to the families of the brave martyr.

are you also a proxy?, or a self certified nationalist? do you distribute certificate of nationalism on the street in your khaki dress. now get back and do the marking propaganda for your leaders.

 

[TheSeeker]

bull and crap, this will keep going on and on with no end insight. no affect of surgical strike?, keep doing chest thumping with little to show to the rest of the world and even to your own people.

So the troll is back? Paki acting as Indian? Wasn't he banned?

 

[scatterStorm]

After Uri we retaliated and there moral drop dead, what I think is that we must create psycolog

Jihadi body was boobytrapped
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Fuck this shit! They are playing with our conscience, we must learn from Israel, nothing comes first either before or after but the country's vigilance against evil doers, If they want skirmish let's give them a good one, let's give them a 6 days war of our kind, somebody posted to use MBRLs on them, now is the good time to test run all those toys that we display as showpieces. Light up there arse from 7 days till Sunday.

"2 Army officers along with other martyrs is not what this nation demanded for and certainly not we expected for" Period

 

[sukhish]

these guys have big local support, reconcile with that fact first, before shouting out your ass

 

[TheSeeker]

Paki disguised as Indian. The troll is back. Don't fall in his trap.

 

[IndianHawk]

these guys have big local support, reconcile with that fact first, before shouting out your ass

Local support thrives on paki funding.
And yes there is no point shouting it's time to shoot.

Light up the loc let them have a proper war and we will see what local support can do ??

 

[Project Dharma]

Some good news on an otherwise glum day folks

http://www.dawn.com/news/1299402/ru...s-of-secret-negotiation-with-pakistan-on-cpec

Russia dismisses reports of 'secret negotiation' with Pakistan on CPEC
DAWN.COM — UPDATED about 4 hours ago

The Russian foreign ministry on Tuesday rubbished Pakistani media reports about 'secret negotiations' between the two countries regarding cooperation on the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).

 

[sukhish]

Paki disguised as Indian. The troll is back. Don't fall in his trap.

you have already fell on the your master trap anyway? no use of explaining to you. i do not portend to be fake, neither I'am fearful of being called an anti-national, anti-army, anti-parrikar, anti-modi, anti-rajnath etc etc( add some as you like). in the mean time notch up you nationalistic credentials little more by going to the LOC and take them head on yourself. and also do not forget to take your marching orders before you start this courageous task.

 

[aditya g]

...., two women and two babies," Defence spokesman Lt Col Manish Mehta said.

The two babies rescued are 18 months and two months old, the officer said.

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I shudder to even think what may happened if those jehadis had located the wives and babies.

Even Samba attack was a close call with one Army Officer's Wife was at risk of being taken hostage.

 

[sukhish]

now its time to do a fergical strike again, as surgical strike seem to have an opposite affect (or not affect).

 

[nick_indian]

NAGROTA: Bravery of the wives of two army officers who were staying in the family quarters helped in averting a major hostage crisis during the encounter+ that took place in Nagrota area of Jammu on Tuesday.

Soon after the heavily armed terrorists disguised in police uniform entered an army unit located within three kilometers from the headquarters of the 16 Corps, they wanted to enter the family quarters where they could take the families of the soldiers and officers hostage+ .

However, due to the bravery of these two women, who were staying in the family quarters along with their newborns, the plans of the terrorists could not materialise.

"The wives of the two army officers, who were on night duty when the encounter broke out, displayed exemplary courage as they blocked the entry of their quarters with all the household items, making it difficult for the terrorists to break into the houses," an army officer privy to the encounter told PTI.

Had the women not shown this alertness, the terrorists would have been able to take them hostage and would have succeeded in causing huge damage to the army and the families, he said.

"The terrorists entered two buildings which were occupied by officers, their families. This led to a hostage-like situation. The situation was very quickly contained and thereafter, in a deliberate operation all were successfully rescued, which included 12 soldiers, two women and two babies," Defence spokesman Lt Col Manish Mehta said.

The two babies rescued are 18 months and two months old, the officer said.

However, in the rescue attempt one more officer and two jawans sacrificed their lives, the spokesman said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...verts-hostage-crisis/articleshow/55691992.cms

Extremely sad to hear about this loss but I have a question. How the hell do these guys manage to break into such army camps ? Shouldnt they be highly secure ?

Isnt this pathetic ? People can just randomly enter our jails (Punjab incident) and our army camps at will ?

 

[Project Dharma]

Extremely sad to hear about this loss but I have a question. How the hell do these guys manage to break into such army camps ? Shouldnt they be highly secure ?

Isnt this pathetic ? People can just randomly enter our jails (Punjab incident) and our army camps at will ?

Police is different story, they are armed with prehistoric arms and are not combat ready at all. With due respect to Hammerhead, this attack also feels like a failure in terms of security especially considering its vulnerable location in J&K. More facts will come out after an inquiry, right now focus should be on how to return the favor with interest.

 

[26/11]

^^^ porkies are Chu*** of highest order. They have no shame in begging for ceasefire or claiming to be Indian.

Then also, what can you expect from the people with no balls. They will always hide behind false identity or burkha.

 

[Screambowl]

saturate all the major cities and posts from loc to 3 kms deep in pakistan with shelling ... most of the civilians have left to binder only men have left behind that too to assist army in fighting. They themselves are retired people from army.. so don't take them as civilians.

They tried to target families of Indian soldiers. I am sure there will be immense anger among Indian soldiers. This is something they should have not done but since they have done response would be 10 times more lethal than previous strike.

I wouldn't be shocked if they move 150mm and smerch.

 

[HindaviSwarajya]

I get a feeling nothing major will happen tomorrow. There may be artillary level retaliation in couple of days if pakis break cease fire again tomorrow. I will be very happy to be proven wrong. But looks like something big is already planned to happen in next 1 year. Our one cut will be equal to 10000 Cuts.

 

[scatterStorm]

I can visualize the series of events that would have unfolded today through your informative post !! It is clear that both inner as well as outer security perimeter was breached through UGBL+burst fire that lead to martyrdom of our 7 valiant soldiers including 2 officers. It is really hard for those being associated with the soldiers who are being posted there and pray for their well being when any such attacks happen... It could be understood that sentiments erupt when causalities happen due to these fidayeen scums..

Dramatic jump
"While the total number of violent incidents in Kashmir has only gone up marginally from previous years, the number of security personnel killed or injured has dramatically risen. Until September 30, 2016, a total of 63 security personnel had been killed in Kashmir while 181 were injured. The death toll among security agencies could go up by another 20 by the end of the year, if the trend in violence continues. It would be the highest number of security personnel killed in a single year after 2007."
Source: http://www.thehindu.com/todays-pape...for-security-forces-in-JK/article16709193.ece

It is evident that in this year the causalities are highest since 2007. In your opinion, what could be reason for that ? Apart from increase in infiltration incidences which in itself poses questions to the border security, what other reasons are driving terrorists to inflict heavy causalities on us? And second question, what we are doing or could be done to provide effective deterrence against such a terrorist attack? If the local population is hostile towards our forces and supplying logistics to the fidayeens why don't we impose martial law to flush out terrorists and their sympathizers from each and every house of kashmir.

A few observation we could certainly create, some of them are:

1. They have access to our military uniforms, they've been doing this since countless times.
2. They are not doing guerilla warfare, it's hybrid in nature, there tactics are just damn straightforward and simply unconventional, this gives us no chance to predict what there next move will be.
   
3. This means threats have a centralized goal, yet they are molding there goals in real time to suit there needs.
4. There is a pattern, I think army research group know this as well.
5. Threats have been using frag grenades extensively these days, I believe our men were dropped more via fragging then bullets!
6. The terrain from there side make there passage inside our country quite easy, while the same for us is unfortunately not in our favor.

Kashmir is now like a biblical prophecy that won't ever be solved but via a thermonuclear war ( kidding, we don't want that ), people over there ( not all ) have "poker faces", children over there are been fed hate stories since there birth. I believe psychological containment centers should be created to brainwash them form our side, start with children, bend there curriculum to constantly barrage them with how evil Pakistan is.

IMO IAF and Army aviation corps should now lead an active role in capping insurgencies, we all know what a helicopter gunship can do, can suppress them and downright can become a psychological tool to counter them. US army had been doing it since 2001.