Turkey cancels $3.4 billion missile deal with China

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BS nobody buys J junks except pakistan and all the countries rejected it. None of J series fighter is a mtch to tejas MK1 in technology forget Mk1+ and Mk2. No deal is struck for HQ BMD. even chinese forces prefered to by Russian BMD ignoring chinese one. When china itself van not buy its own system than how would others may buy?
Why did China order S400 when they already have the HQ9? Infact, china was the first in line to order the system as soon as it was cleared for foreign sales by Russian MOD. Same case for SU 35. They already have their fifth gen fighters ready. Food for thought.
 

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BS nobody buys J junks except pakistan and all the countries rejected it. None of J series fighter is a mtch to tejas MK1 in technology forget Mk1+ and Mk2. No deal is struck for HQ BMD. even chinese forces prefered to by Russian BMD ignoring chinese one. When china itself van not buy its own system than how would others may buy?
You just typing it doesn't make it true. Try supporting your "assertions" with actual links once in a while.
 

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BS nobody buys J junks except pakistan and all the countries rejected it. None of J series fighter is a mtch to tejas MK1 in technology forget Mk1+ and Mk2. No deal is struck for HQ BMD. even chinese forces prefered to by Russian BMD ignoring chinese one. When china itself van not buy its own system than how would others may buy?
With your self-defeating mindset INdia would go nowhere.
Nigeria acquiring JF-17 fighters
China among top five arms exporters, India top buyer
 

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Almost 100 times I have read these sort of news. Malaysia buys JF17, Srilanka buys JF 17 , saudi is buying JF 17, BD is buying JF 17 etc etc. Net outcome is that nobody except pakistan is buying JF 17, etc. If it is such a good plane why you guys are not inducting? come when first one is delivered. China is exporting low grade cheap materials. We have effectively opend our arm export just last year and you this year we have four fold high export target and there is a big surge this year. Like space launch, we shall outpace you in arm export very shortly. Just wait.
 

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Turkey had already finalized but cancelled. Now Iraq is finalizing. When this report will prove wrong then some other country will be interested in buying it.

We have read numerous reports of selling J series of fighters to many countries without any customer except Pakistan.
Turkey wasn't the first or the last to select HQ( for their long range air defense needs.

HQ9 in Turkmenistan Army service:


HQ9 is in service with Uzbekistan as well. So your hopes that the Iraq deal falls through ala the T-LORADIMIS tender probably won't pan out.
 

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Like space launch, we shall outpace you in arm export very shortly. Just wait.
Like space launches? I think you need to look at space launch numbers and launch capabilities of our two countries a bit closer. India is no where close to the number of launches and the types of payloads that the Chinese space agency has embarked on this year alone.

A shenzou manned space flight was recently completed using Chinese launch vehicles, a Chinese Space Lab and a Chinese space craft.

Why do you have to turn every thread about any Chinese initiative into a d*ck-measuring contest with India. You're not even close mate. have some patience and stop making yourself look bitter.
 

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Like space launches? I think you need to look at space launch numbers and launch capabilities of our two countries a bit closer. India is no where close to the number of launches and the types of payloads that the Chinese space agency has embarked on this year alone.

A shenzou manned space flight was recently completed using Chinese launch vehicles, a Chinese Space Lab and a Chinese space craft.

Why do you have to turn every thread about any Chinese initiative into a d*ck-measuring contest with India. You're not even close mate. have some patience and stop making yourself look bitter.
haha thats why india reach Mars and china still finding way..thats why india find water on moon first hahhaa..yeah china is so far and india is not even closer
 

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haha thats why india reach Mars and china still finding way..thats why india find water on moon first hahhaa..yeah china is so far and india is not even closer
Ask anyone with an idea of what their talking about. NOT EVEN CLOSE in terms of tech or operations.

Congrats on getting a probe to mars and the moon. That's no substitute for launch vehicles, number of launches, manned space flight or number of space assets. Look at India's launches above LEO.

http://www.spacelaunchreport.com/log2016.html#site

Look at the number and weights of space launches from this year alone. India does not "outpace" China in space. Even the budgets of the two space agencies are incomparable. Come on guys, some things aren't even debatable.
 

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Like space launches? I think you need to look at space launch numbers and launch capabilities of our two countries a bit closer. India is no where close to the number of launches and the types of payloads that the Chinese space agency has embarked on this year alone.
We are getting orders from across the world for launching including US. Currently we have 83 satellites awaiting for launch from our PSLV which we are going to launch in a single mission. Which has 100% success record after 2000. So far as your launching is concern, just your rocket carrying your own satellite fell down just few days back. We have successful test of Scremjet, space shuttle, we have our own mini hubble type of satellite, we are building SAR satellite with a resolution in mili miter. Just Israeli space agency head visited ISRO and said that they have best geostationary satellite and technology and other technologies. On other hand your scientist said that you re in catching up in satellite imaginary and inspite of offering free images, nobody is ready to buy. We succed on mars and you not only failed on mars but also on moon. We are working on one stage launch vehicle. So like a typical chinese you can talk big mouth but nobody recognized you except your own people.
 

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Our defense has witnessed 6 fold rise this year. We did not export because of our policy like Japan. Now we have opened up any body can witness a big difference.
Chill dude, don't sweat it. You cannot reason with people who think launching a probe to mars successfully isn't a big deal. The fact is China opened up her economy roughly 30 years before us. That is the difference you see. Nothing else. It's not magic. But one cannot climb forever. Economies will slow down and get stagnant after a while. India is slowly but surely catching up. We will get there, but probably in a decade or two.
 

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don't flaunt yourself either, Normally China is able to make the top five export it's because of it easy of financing or so called soft loans, In Iraq case it's because China buys a lot of oil from it.

No country out there is buying weapons from China because of it's technology.

You will see in few years UAE will start buying weapons from India, it's not because India will make better weapons it just that India buys oil from them and will ask them to reinvest that money back in India.

China makes it into the top five thanks to Pakistan for that.
 

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don't flaunt yourself either, Normally China is able to make the top five export it's because of it easy of financing or so called soft loans, In Iraq case it's because China buys a lot of oil from it.

No country out there is buying weapons from China because of it's technology.

You will see in few years UAE will start buying weapons from India, it's not because India will make better weapons it just that India buys oil from them and will ask them to reinvest that money back in India.

China makes it into the top five thanks to Pakistan for that.
Call me in a few years, if India materializes the export, or if Canada is still part of India.
 

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I'm not sure if that'll be possible. You guys might have polluted the planet so much that we have to settle on Mars and then nuke you from outer space. :pound:
Par ek chemical attack on Islamabad is my dream................
I cannot do that from outer space
 

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We are getting orders from across the world for launching including US. Currently we have 83 satellites awaiting for launch from our PSLV which we are going to launch in a single mission. Which has 100% success record after 2000. So far as your launching is concern, just your rocket carrying your own satellite fell down just few days back. We have successful test of Scremjet, space shuttle, we have our own mini hubble type of satellite, we are building SAR satellite with a resolution in mili miter. Just Israeli space agency head visited ISRO and said that they have best geostationary satellite and technology and other technologies. On other hand your scientist said that you re in catching up in satellite imaginary and inspite of offering free images, nobody is ready to buy. We succed on mars and you not only failed on mars but also on moon. We are working on one stage launch vehicle. So like a typical chinese you can talk big mouth but nobody recognized you except your own people.
Yap yap yap. Give us links child.

Our defense export has witnessed 6 fold rise this year. We did not export because of our policy like Japan. Now we have opened up any body can witness a big difference.
What? When has India ever had a ban on weapons exports like Japan did? Still making thing up I see...

Take your "India is the best" nonsense elsewhere man. You make one ridiculous claim after another and expect to be taken seriously. Its called REALISM/PRAGMATISM. Try it.
 

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Chill dude, don't sweat it. You cannot reason with people who think launching a probe to mars successfully isn't a big deal. The fact is China opened up her economy roughly 30 years before us. That is the difference you see. Nothing else. It's not magic. But one cannot climb forever. Economies will slow down and get stagnant after a while. India is slowly but surely catching up. We will get there, but probably in a decade or two.
No one said its not a big deal. I said its commendable did I not? But launching a probe to Mars does not mean India has "surpassed" China in space tech or launches. That's a ridiculous claim to make.Or that India will "surpass" China in weapons exports "soon" when India hasn't even exported a trainer, let alone a fighter aircraft and is still buying submarines, artillery pieces, even fighter radomes....

Nationalism is hard to resist, yes, but come on gents, try being realistic. Deal in facts, not pipe dreams.
 

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No one said its not a big deal. I said its commendable did I not? But launching a probe to Mars does not mean India has "surpassed" China in space tech or launches. That's a ridiculous claim to make.Or that India will "surpass" China in weapons exports "soon" when India hasn't even exported a trainer, let alone a fighter aircraft and is still buying submarines, artillery pieces, even fighter radomes....

Nationalism is hard to resist, yes, but come on gents, try being realistic. Deal in facts, not pipe dreams.
Well atleast in launching Long distance probes, yes. ISRO has a better track record than the Chinese. ISRO had succeeded in its first mars attempt. Whereas China 'lost' its Yingho-1 probe destined to mars with the help of Russian rockets. It's just that I find it ironic that Chinese actually lecture others on toning down nationalistic statements, considering the whole CCP is based in nationalistic propaganda. Doesn't charity begin at home? Maybe you should start with that Chinese naval officer who publicly claimed Chinese fishing boats are enough to sink US navy ships. If that isn't a truly rediculous claim I don't know what is. What was your reaction to that, I wonder.
 

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