Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

[mokoman]

Am I?

no offence but IMHO china causing 2nd wave sounds like whatsapp tier conspiracy theory.

japan had 4 waves , us 3 , each wave 2x-4x than previous.


but now that i got your attention can you shed light on this sentence from this article

India gripped by Covid, China quietly hardens positions in depth areas of Ladakh

India Today TV has learnt that while India is gripped by Covid-19, the Chinese Army has reinforced its presence in eastern Ladakh depth areas with permanent accommodations and depots.

www.indiatoday.in

While some of these needed to be abandoned as part of the February pullback, the Indian Army is understood to still hold similarly advantageous positions in other sectors at this time.

any ideas on which sector it might be ?

 

[Lost user]

Am I?

Yes Sir

 

[tarunraju]

Character artist Maj (R) Bikramjeet Kanwar died of COVID-19. He appears as bureaucrat/mil officer in films/TV shows, and was an Army vet IRL.

 

[Hellfire]

no offence but china causing 2nd wave sounds like whatsapp tier conspiracy theory.

japan had 4 waves , us 3 , each wave 2x-4x than previous.

The index case of "mutation" is from Amravati, Maharashtra. Not from the primary focii of the 1st wave. I shall have my reasonable doubts as supposedly Chinese have "discovered" the same mutant in China - this after no Indian has been allowed there since sometime. And in "contained" zones. I appreciate efficiency. But in virology, that much efficiency surveillance and containment is - undigestible.

but now that i got your attention can you shed light on this sentence from this article

India gripped by Covid, China quietly hardens positions in depth areas of Ladakh

India Today TV has learnt that while India is gripped by Covid-19, the Chinese Army has reinforced its presence in eastern Ladakh depth areas with permanent accommodations and depots.

www.indiatoday.in

While some of these needed to be abandoned as part of the February pullback, the Indian Army is understood to still hold similarly advantageous positions in other sectors at this time.

any ideas on which sector it might be ?

Depsang - Hot Springs. A few odd outcrops holding the higher ground.

But these "advantages" are not at the scale of what was there in general Area Pangong Tso. The PLA defences and garrison at Moldo were literally at India's mercy if the push came to a shove.

The PRC was never going to withdraw from Depsang stand off. They can not. They are vulnerable there to an Indian offensive if undertaken in force. Giving up Pangong Tso advantage was not exactly a bright decision.

 

[Hellfire]

Yes Sir

The only thing that is addictive for me - Coca Cola.

 

[Lost user]

My "pointing" has more to do with my firm belief since day 1 that this is not a "mistaken" spread of the virus the world over. A deliberate or accidental release has been exploited.

When Mr Pravin Sawhney talks about disruptive warfare technologies, what he consistently fails to do is elaborate on what he means by it. He has a vague idea which needs to be articulated by him.

Anyone who has "watched" China has to know that China will never directly enter into a military confrontation. The reason - you can not predict the outcome of a war, nor can you control it. So, you employ "disruptive" means.

You attack decision making process in an adversarial country. You use their tools, legal tools, against them. For democracies, it is the fact that anyone can say/do anything and get away with it if there is a concomitant "narrative", howsoever missing on facts, allowed to gain a toehold in the democratic society. Nothing works like further dividing the decision making as does setting a narrative which appeals to the masses. And the masses, unwittingly, play along.

Why a thrust was made over Markaz to give it a religious angle in the social media? Why there remains a thrust to talk about pollution around the time of Diwali? Why there remains a thrust on Kumbh, Ramzan, today? There may be genuine sentiments of patriotic Indians involved, but they merely add to the divisions that are needed within the society to disable a robust response to an enemies act.

Those who may have read me at times, may recollect that when people talk of Information Warfare, I lay more stress on Information Denial. For a democracy, there needs to be strict regulation on what information gets released in public.

I agree that there is a possibility of the initial outbreak being the launch of biological warfare by China.. But, the theory that second wave being caused by a chinese planted variant is suspect.. as highly infectious variants have popped up everywhere causing successive waves..
Also, same mutations in sars-cov-2 have occurred in different countries without any transmission from one country to another.. The L452R mutation of B.1.617 has been found in fast spreading variants in California (B.1.427 and B.1.429). It happens because evolution favors these mutations..

 

[Deadtrap]

 

[SimplyIndian]

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I am putting forward some facts and request you to ponder over it *without any political or other biases.*

Let's see the chronology.

1. *Till February 2021*, all seem to be wonderful.

2. The malls had opened, shopping centres restarted, schools were reopening and life was creeping back to normalcy in India.

3. The indian vaccine had been the "talk of the town" in the whole world with exports to 87 countries. Infact we were competing with China in most of the countries, as Indian vaccine gained more favour.

4. The farmer protests had almost died down and no major protests of any nature were happening in the country.

5. *End February*. The boundary talks with China have finally resulted in to some kind of negotiations.

6. *March 2021*.
There were some major arms deal signed and decision taken to manufacture a lot of equipment within the country.

7. *07 Apr*- A major Maoist attack took place. A meeting called in Delhi to review counter naxal policy.

8. *Between 10- 15 April.* Within 5- 6 days, a huge wave hits India with unimaginable proportions completely overturning the situation.

9. Surprisingly no such Covid criticality in equally populated Pakistan and Bangladesh !! Or in Nepal, Bhutan, SL etc !

*Think!!*

10. By *20 April*. By now whole international media jumps in to highlight inadequacies in Indian medical system and administration. Countries like Pakistan started talking of offering medical help to India.

11. *24 Apr*. Glacier bursts takes place in Himalayan borders killing several people. Simultaneously articles appeared in the Chinese media saying India should not expect any more concessions on boundary talks.

Now the question is : *Is this huge second wave, could be a result of a planned and carefully crafted biological attack by our adversaries to bring down our International standing and create internal unrest ???*

(Please think over it with a cool mind and keep all political or other biases away.)

Regards.

 

[Hellfire]

I agree that there is a possibility of the initial outbreak being the launch of biological warfare by China.. But, the theory that second wave being caused by a chinese planted variant is suspect.. as highly infectious variants have popped up everywhere causing successive waves..
Also, same mutations in sars-cov-2 have occurred in different countries without any transmission from one country to another.. The L452R mutation of B.1.617 has been found in fast spreading variants in California (B.1.427 and B.1.429). It happens because evolution favors these mutations..

Like I said, I have my doubts.

 

[temujin]

20 million is 4days worth vaccines considering we are vaccinating 50 lakhs per day.
Prod cap is increasing, we should have vaccines shortage in check in 10 to 15 days.

To get a sense of the scale of the challenge, AZ's CEO has stated that the company had produced 300 million shots till date, roughly 1/3 of which were exported to poorer countries under the Covax scheme.This, despite the company commencing production at the end of last year well ahead of regulatory approval. He was citing the vaccine culture process as a major rate limiting factor constraining rapid ramping up of production. So an additional 400-500 million doses combined within a very short time frame must be a very tall ask for SII, BB and Dr R. Every Covishield shot produced should be deployed solely for providing 1st doses for now- there is overwhelming evidence, including figures published yesterday, that it prevents up to 2/3rds of symptomatic infections and over 90% of hospitalisations and deaths.

Since they are essentially synthetic vaccines, it would have been much easier to scale up Pfizer/Moderna but they are obviously more interested in making their billions than saving lives of poor Indians (for comparison the AZ CEO commented that the company was making a 2 cent loss per vaccine shot at present and only expected to break even by the middle of 2022).

India urgently needs it's own line of synthetic vaccines to bridge the gap- the government should bring forward Zydus Cadilla's approval based on rolling data and consider investing in additional capacity to increase production from the current 120 million shots annually (Zydus has a 3 dose schedule which is a major limitation however).

Longer term this should really focus the Government's thinking around the 'athmanirbhar' strategy, away from local production of cheap tat towards higher value R&D to ensure we are never reliant on foreign powers for protecting Indian lives ever again.

 

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[mandestiny]

Good thing now people running for vaccination.

 

[mandestiny]

I think 45+ vaccination was a wrong move. Lot of time wasted in that. All ages should be allowed.

 

[Coalmine]

I think 45+ vaccination was a wrong move. Lot of time wasted in that. All ages should be allowed.

Whatever has happened. Govt must take efforts to increase production many fold.
Also what is the status of raw materials.

 

[mandestiny]

Whatever has happened. Govt must take efforts to increase production many fold.
Also what is the status of raw materials.

Right , i think covaxin company has its own api supply, so no issue
SII , blah blah......

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Enough of this necrophilia.

India is second largest in testing COVID swabs.

Having issued 10s of MLC death certificates, presented myself to 10s of courts proceedings to submit first respondent report as attending consultant I known how important and individualistic task it is for on duty Doctor to mention cause of death. The cause of death of a covid positive patient can never be fudged and there are never any instructions to change the same.

To hide the cause you have to totally destroy the admission file which contains History work up detailed by the relative of the patient and patient himself, clinical work up, clinical details, working diagnosis daily 3 to 4 times status update, same details seperatedly recorded by Nurses and visiting specialist, test orders and their reports.

Stop behaving like pedestrians while indulging into Shekhar Gupta’s hunch and guesstimates.

No Doctor will dare to change the cause of death once the report is COVID positive and the same report filed in admission file. Not to mention these days along with hard copy a digital summary is also recorded. A patient admitted for a week can have a file more than 15-20 pages. The file also contains receipts in case of private hospital or private visit for charging purposes. No hospital can legally or for the clinical purposes will touch the file.

Even if consecutive reports become negative the primary cause along with secondary cause will get mentioned in the certificate.

Fuck pissfizer.

New amreekunt cdc document shows that pcr tests for only vaccinated people will use a 28 cycle threshold.

They uses a 40+ cycle threshold to inflate the Covid-19 statistics. A 40 cycle threshold produces a 97% false positive rate.

Lowering the pcr cycle threshold for vaccinated people is a massive fraud to make it look like the vaccines are working. Many predicted this.

WILL THOSE subhuman coomers with pack of dyks in mouth have anything to yell about this ?

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

@ezsasa ^^^^^

 

[Pash]

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Why cuckold news networks not reporting this?

 

[Deadtrap]