Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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China is 'not engaged in a search for truth' in 'embarrassing' and 'discredited' WHO report
The World Health Organization - China joint study into the origins of the coronavirus is "123 pages of nothing" and is "embarrassing", says the Australian Strategic Policy Institute's Michael Shoebridge. "The study was done by 17 international experts attached to the WHO, 17 Chinese government experts, and then it thanks 26 other Chinese government officials for playing a key role," he said. "The whole thing had to be agreed by the Chinese government and was all subject to information from Chinese officials. "So it's not at all a surprise it propagates wacky, discredited theories about how the virus started and it downplays everything that happened in Wuhan in December and January." Mr Shoebridge said the report is "discredited as it lands on the world" and we shouldn't be surprised that "the Chinese government is not engaged in a search for truth".
 

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Can we buy it easily in India ? Its sold over the counter in Amrika under brand Pepto-Bismol and various other generic versions in Kroger/Walgreens etc. Pink thing , like gelusil, but not the same in composition.
The main thing is the bismuth. There are different compounds of bismuth sold in different countries over the counter. Bismuth subsalicylate is one of the cheaper versions. I don't know how potent it would be after the virus has already settled in the lungs, but for those having upset stomach issues in the earlier stages, I would definitely recommend it, unless the patient has Reye's syndrome or problems taking aspirin. There must be over the counter versions available in India: Best bet would be to talk to a doctor/pharmacist.
 

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One thing I have noticed is that people often don't cover their nose with the mask. For the mask to work, you have to fully cover the entire nose and the mouth down to the chin. Also, you need at least 3 layers of cloth for the mask to have any effect, and even then I would recommend keeping at least 6 feet of distance from others outdoors, and avoiding going indoors (outside your own home) as much as possible. Try getting an N95 mask if possible (not the fake ones made in China). Keeping windows and doors open all the time (or proper ventilation with outside air currents) also helps, but I would just avoid indoor public places as much as possible.
 

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Here is the entire 60 Minutes segment:
WHO-led inquiry ends with even more questions than it began with on coronavirus origin
A lack of transparency from Chinese officials and looming geopolitical consequences have damaged the credibility of a WHO-led inquiry into how the virus that causes COVID-19 originated. Lesley Stahl reports.

I think there is enough circumstantial evidence here that a bioweapon virus leaked from the Wuhan lab, caused the Covid-19 pandemic, and the Chinese Communist Party covered it up. Whether it was an accidental or intentional leak, the CCP used it as a bioweapon by allowing it to spread to other countries while covering it up (hiding that person-to-person transmission was taking place from the world, while allowing Chinese people to travel to other countries to spread the virus). There are also indications that the World Health Organization officials, especially Peter Daszak, have willfully peddled the CCP propaganda animal theory to the public. Some of the WHO officials including Peter Daszak have financial ties to the CCP and the Wuhan lab, and are most likely going along with the CCP-sponsored theory to save themselves, as Peter Daszak actually helped fund research at the Wuhan lab with American taxpayer money through his organization.

Dr. Elbright singles out Peter Daszak – who has seen his financial and research ties to the Chinese Communist Party exposed by The National Pulse – for his conflicts of interest with the Wuhan Insitute of Virology:

Yes. Daszak was the contractor who funded the laboratory at WIV that potentially was the source of the virus (with subcontracts from $200 million from the US Department of State and $7 million from the US National Institutes of Health), and he was a collaborator and co-author on research projects at the laboratory.
If it turns out that the virus is a CCP/PLA bioweapon that was developed in the Wuhan lab with funding from Peter Daszak's organization, then he would be in serious trouble. So Daszak has every incentive to peddle CCP propaganda and lies to the world in order to save his own hide. There are others on the WHO team also with financial ties to the CCP (and thus owned by the CCP), as the members were handpicked by the CCP, as disclosed in the video above.
 

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Here is more evidence that Peter Daszak is the one pushing CCP propaganda (the video on the linked page contains the conversation):
US Researcher With Chinese Ties Admits He Convinced WHO Team That Missing Wuhan Lab Data Was Irrelevant
  • The Wuhan Institute of Virology removed public databases in September 2019 that contained information on at least 16,000 virus samples it had studied prior to the pandemic.
  • The World Health Organization did not even ask to review the deleted databases during its investigation into the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic in China in early 2021.
  • The sole U.S. member of the WHO team said his colleagues took him at his word when he vouched for the WIV during the investigation and claimed there’s no relevant information in the deleted databases.
  • Dr. Peter Daszak’s involvement in the WHO probe has been described as a major conflict of interest due to his long work history and financial ties with the WIV, along with his work to suppress debate on the lab leak theory at the onset of the pandemic.
The Wuhan Institute of Virology deleted public databases containing information on at least 16,000 virus samples in September 2019, but the World Health Organization did not even request to review the data as part of their investigation into the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic in China in early 2021.

The sole U.S. member of the WHO team, EcoHealth Alliance president Dr. Peter Daszak, revealed during a panel discussion Wednesday that they did not request to see the deleted WIV databases because he personally vouched for the lab, saying the data did not contain relevant information on the pandemic’s origins.

“We did not ask to see the data,” Daszak said during a panel discussion organized by Chatham House. “A lot of this work is work that has been conducted with EcoHealth Alliance. I’m also part of those data and we do basically know what’s in those databases … I got to talk with both sides about the work we’ve done with Wuhan Institute of Virology and explained what’s there.”

“There is no evidence of viruses closer to SARS-CoV-2 than RaTG13 in those databases,” Daszak said, referring to a bat coronavirus studied by the WIV prior to the pandemic that is 96.2% similar to the virus that causes COVID-19.

Earlier in the discussion, Daszak said his work is guided by the scientific process, which, according to Dazsak, “involves looking at data, analyzing it, coming to conclusions about what it means and publishing it and making it public.”

Daszak said it was “absolutely reasonable” that the WIV took the databases down because he said he was told by his longtime colleague and the WIV’s lead Chinese researcher, Shi Zhengli, that there were “hacking attempts on it. About 3,000 hacking attempts.”

U.S. intelligence officials believe it is suspicious that the WIV refuses to allow an outside examination of its deleted databases, according to NBC News.

Daszak did not respond to a request for comment.

Daszak’s prior work and financial history with the WIV, along with his role in organizing a public relations campaign in early 2020 to paint the theory that COVID-19 could have accidentally leaked from the lab as a “conspiracy,” has been described as a major conflict of interest by U.S.-based epidemiologists and medical groups. (RELATED: The Man At The Center Of The World’s Biggest Story Has A Conflict Of Interest. Why Won’t The Media Report It?)

EcoHealth Alliance, Daszak’s nonprofit group, routed $600,000 in taxpayer funds to the WIV in form of subgrants as part of a project to study bat-based coronaviruses in China, funding that was terminated by the National Institutes of Health in May 2020.

From the onset of the pandemic, Daszak has denied he has a conflict of interest with the WIV, a claim that Rutgers University professor of chemical biology Richard H. Ebright said in April was a “brazen lie.”

“‘I have no conflicts of interest,’ said Peter Daszak”

It would be hard to imagine a more brazen lie.

— Richard H. Ebright (@R_H_Ebright) April 24, 2020
The WHO has defended its decision to appoint Daszak to the investigation of its COVID-9 origins despite accusations that his involvement mires the probe with major conflict of interests.

The WHO investigative panel shelved plans last week to release an interim report detailing how it concluded that it was “extremely unlikely” that COVID-19 could have accidentally leaked from the WIV. It now says that a full report on the investigation will be released “in coming weeks.”

Despite working at the onset of the pandemic to suppress debate on the lab leak theory, Daszak said former White House strategist Steve Bannon and the Chinese Falun Gong religious sect, which financially backs the Epoch Times newspaper and faces persecution from the Chinese Communist Party, are the ones responsible for China’s decision to block an outside investigation of the pandemic’s origins for over a year after the initial outbreak.

“I’ve seen incredible efforts from everything from Falun Gong to … Steve Bannon’s group pushing the conspiracy theories around China,” Daszak said during Wednesday’s panel discussion. “It’s useful to them. They’re funding it and pushing it and science has been to some extent caught up in that to other instances absolutely crushed by it.”

“We’ve not had access to work in China on the origins for the last 12 months, which is ironic because we could have been on the ground there working with our Chinese colleagues and by now we could have found some really important answers,” he said. “The rhetoric has held that up.”
 

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Yes, COVID-19 Was a Biological Attack by the Chinese Communist Party – Lawrence Sellin, Ph.D.
In a must-read article in the December 2020 issue of Indian Defense Review, Dr. Sharad S Chauhan defines “Opportunistic Bioterrorism” as:
“Concealment of the emergence of a biological agent, pathogen or a disease by acts of commission or omission with the knowledge that such an act will harm or kill humans’ animals or plants with the intent to intimidate or coerce a government or civilian population to further political or social objectives or by using a situation to get power or an advantage.”
That “opportunity” was COVID-19, a product of policies and actions undertaken by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

First and foremost, it is critical for everyone to understand that, in the People’s Republic of China, there is no difference between military and civilian research centers.

Chapter 78 of the CCP’s Thirteenth Five-Year Plan (2016-2020) describes the fusion of military and civilian research including the area of “synthetic biology.”

Even prior to the publication of that plan, it had been common practice for the CCP to change the name of military research centers to something more civilian-sounding and for Chinese scientists to disguise their military connections.

A second component of the CCP’s military-civilian fusion effort is the integration of Chinese scientists working abroad as part of the network, even to the extent that Chinese scientists have become U.S. citizens, but remain active members of the CCP’s program.

In that way, foreign institutions and foreign funding sources become de facto partners in the CCP’s research program and contributors to China’s military and economic might.

The most glaring, but far from the only example of such American “useful idiot” participants in the CCP military-civilian research program, is Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) funded coronavirus research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology via long-time CCP research collaborator Peter Daszak, who is head of the EcoHealth Alliance.

The CCP integration of military-civilian virus research is led by the Academy of Military Medical Sciences, where Dr. Wei Chen, a Major General in the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) and the virologist, is Director of the Institute of Bioengineering and presumed to be the head of China’s biological warfare program.

In January 2020, the CCP dispatched Major General Wei Chen to Wuhan to take charge of the response to the growing pandemic. She was also responsible for China’s COVID-19 vaccine development.

It is also Major General Wei Chen’s own experience and research connections that provide the background for the origin of COVID-19.



The following is just a snapshot of a more widespread and deeper internal and international network representing the fusion of China’s military-civilian research program.

In 2004 and 2005, Major General Wei Chen was working in the Institute of Microbiology and Epidemiology, Academy of Military Medical Sciences, where she studied the spike protein of the first SARS coronavirus using a genetic technology called RNA interference to silence gene expression of the virus, as well as analyzing immune therapy in SARS patients.

According to her publication record, between 2008 and 2013, Major General Wei Chen conducted experiments on dengue fever virus in the Department of Microbiology, Third Military Medical University, Chongqing.

It is important to note that Chinese whistleblower Dr. Li-Meng Yan claims that the backbone of the COVID-19 virus, bat coronaviruses ZC45 and/or ZXC21, was characterized and genetically engineered under the supervision of the Third Military Medical University in Chongqing.

Around 2014, Major General Wei Chen returned to the Academy of Military Medical Sciences as Director of the Institute of Bioengineering, where she supervised human testing in Africa of a genetically engineered viral vector Ebola vaccine.

Dr. Yusen Zhou was one of the Chinese military scientists, who collaborated with Major General Wei Chen in the response to the COVID-19 outbreak.

He received his training as a military medical doctor and also studied the spike protein of the first SARS coronavirus in 2004, while working in the same research center as Major General Wei, the Institute of Microbiology and Epidemiology, Academy of Military Medical Sciences.

Yusen Zhou’s co-author on that 2004 scientific article “Identification of Immunodominant Sites on the Spike Protein of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) Coronavirus: Implication for Developing SARS Diagnostics and Vaccines” was Dr. Shibo Jiang.

Also a graduate of a military medical university, Shibo Jiang worked at the Lindsley F. Kimball Research Institute of the New York Blood Center for nearly twenty years and received more than $17 million in U.S. research grants, the vast majority coming from Fauci’s NIAID.

During that period, Shibo Jiang developed an extensive network of collaborative research with other U.S. virus research laboratories and became the nexus connecting China’s military-civilian research program with those in the United States.



At the same time, Shibo Jiang maintained research activities with Yusen Zhou and several PLA laboratories, described in detail here, while simultaneously inviting other Chinese scientists into his U.S. laboratory.

One was Dr. Lanying Du, allegedly Yusen Zhou’s wife, who is still an employee of the Lindsley F. Kimball Research Institute in New York and recently received a 5-year grant totally $4.1 million from Fauci’s NIAID.

Shibo Jiang’s U.S. network consisted of laboratories conducting cutting edge coronavirus research, including the controversial “gain of function” experiments:

Dr. Ralph Baric, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill NC

Dr. Fang Li, University of Minnesota Medical School, Minneapolis, MN

Linfa Wang, director of the Program in Emerging Infectious Diseases at Duke University-NUS Medical School, Singapore

Chien-Te K. Tseng, University of Texas Medical Branch Galveston, home of the Department of Defense-funded Center for Biodefense and Emerging Infectious Diseases and the high viral BL-4 containment facility.

All of the above are linked to the CCP’s military-civilian research program via Yusen Zhou or the “bat woman”, Dr. Zheng-Li Shi of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Another CCP scientist linked to both the Chinese military and the highest levels of U.S. research programs is Dr. Gao Fu, also known as George F. Gao, a virologist and immunologist, who has served as Director of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CCDC).

In 2019, he was elected a foreign associate of the U.S. National Academy of Science and the U.S. National Academy of Medicine.

Gao Fu is a long-time research partner of China’s military with whom he published in 2002, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008a, 2008b, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014a, 2014b, 2018, 2019 and 2020.

Gao Fu’s colleague at the CCDC, Dr. Wenjie Tan, is not only linked to Shibo Jinag and Yusen Zhou, but is a close collaborator of Dr. Zhenhong Hu from the General Hospital of Central Theater Command of the PLA in Wuhan.

Zhenhong Hu conducted research with the Third Military Medical University from where the bat backbone of the COVID-19 virus is alleged to have originated.

The Third Military Medical University was also Major General Wei Chen’s place of employment for five years.

It is perhaps no coincidence that, according to patient data, the epicenter of the outbreak during its earliest phase was the General Hospital of Central Theater Command of the PLA (map coordinates 30.53148, 114.34356).

That location is less than one mile from the P-3 level laboratory of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Hubei Engineering and Technology Research Center for Viral Diseases (map coordinates 30.53941, 114.35085).

That information also matches data published by the Wuhan Wuchang District Health Bureau stating that the highest concentration of infections in the early phase of the outbreak occurred in the residential areas about one mile from the hospital.

Those observations fit, in time and location, the social media data obtained from the Sina Weibo platform, which was designed as a channel for suspected COVID-19 patients to seek help.

It is interesting to note that during May 2020, the U.S. National Academy of Science initiated a series of conference calls between Chinese and U.S. scientists to exchange information about the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.

The three Chinese participants on those calls were Gao Fu, Wenjie Tan and the “bat woman” Zheng-Li Shi of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

The calls could also be described as de facto briefings for China’s military.

There is still much we do not know about the origin of COVID-19, largely due to a cover-up operation led by the CCP and facilitated by members of the Western scientific community, some U.S. government officials and a compliant media.

One could argue that they are all co-conspirators in “Opportunistic Bioterrorism.”
 

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If it was a biological weapon then why would China attack Wuhan first?

It makes FAR more sense that it was a Western biological weapon intended to attack China.
Can you read?
The article clearly states that:
In a must-read article in the December 2020 issue of Indian Defense Review, Dr. Sharad S Chauhan defines “Opportunistic Bioterrorism” as:

“Concealment of the emergence of a biological agent, pathogen or a disease by acts of commission or omission with the knowledge that such an act will harm or kill humans’ animals or plants with the intent to intimidate or coerce a government or civilian population to further political or social objectives or by using a situation to get power or an advantage.”
By hiding that person to person transmission was taking place while allowing international travel of Chinese carriers of the virus, Chinese Communist Party used the Covid virus as an opportunistic biological weapon. There is plenty of evidence of a coverup by the Chinese Communist Party officials in Wuhan that I have already posted earlier in the thread.
 

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Video of the exchange with Peter Daszak from the above article: In the video starting at 53:29, there is a question why the deleted databases at the Wuhan lab were not investigated. Peter Daszak, the head of the WHO Covid mission to China, then says that he told the WHO team that there is no need to investigate the deleted databases because he already knows there is nothing in the databases of value because he was working as a scientist at the Wuhan lab earlier! And the rest of the team took Peter Daszak at his word even though there is a conflict of interest with Peter Daszak investigating himself and dismissing data that could potentially incriminate him as a scientist working at the Wuhan lab, as well as his friends working at the Wuhan lab!
So how can the WHO Covid team (headed by Peter Daszak himself) investigate Peter Daszak the Wuhan lab scientist, if Peter Daszak the Wuhan lab scientist lies to the WHO team to protect himself. Because if there is something in the deleted Wuhan lab databases that proves that Covid-19 leaked from there, then Peter Daszak the Wuhan lab scientist would be in big trouble. Which is probably why he told the rest of the team that there is nothing to see in the deleted databases. And the rest of the team also decided to take his word for it! Some investigation! I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese Communist Party had leverage over all members of the WHO team that they handpicked and had final say on.
This is also probably why the Chinese Communist Party handpicked Peter Daszak for this team: He will stop the investigation into the data since the data incriminates him as a scientist doing gain of function research at the Wuhan lab in order to create the Covid virus.
Since the WHO went along with the deal to allow Chinese Communist Party to handpick the investigation team, it also implicates the WHO leadership in the coverup.
 
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More evidence of a lab-leak coverup: https://www.gmwatch.org/en/news/lat...ab-escape-denialists-telling-such-brazen-lies

Why are the lab escape denialists telling such brazen lies?

Or how Peter Daszak is SARS-CoV-2's “Patient Zero for misinformation” but a media darling.
A recent Guardian headline instructs us to “ignore the conspiracy theories” about the potential role of a Wuhan biolab in the emergence of the virus that triggered the current pandemic. The accompanying article is the latest broadside from what the investigative journalist Sam Husseini has called the “loud crowd” involved in dangerous work with viruses, who have been busily denouncing any effort to scrutinise their work. Of these loud denialists, no one has been more vocal than the article’s author: Peter Daszak.

Since the start of the pandemic, Daszak has been all over the world’s media, as well as social media, decrying suggestions that SARS-CoV-2 might have come out of a lab as “preposterous”, “baseless”, “crackpot”, “conspiracy theories”, and “pure baloney”. And he has backed up these complete dismissals with a welter of questionable claims.

According to Daszak:
* Zoonotic jumps, where viruses cross species from animals to infect humans, “occur every day”, and
* Evidence shows bats infect large numbers of people with SARS-related coronaviruses, so “It's utterly illogical to think that this did not lead to the current outbreak”
* By contrast, “only a handful of people work on bat coronaviruses in labs in China” and they are well protected
* Plus there are “huge piles of rules and regulations governing what they do”
* In any case, people always say disease outbreaks “could have come from a lab”
* But in reality “lab accidents are extremely rare”, and
* Lab escapes “have never led to largescale [disease] outbreaks”
* Anyway, there are no relevant live viruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, only data on computers, so nothing could escape
* Meanwhile the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s work on bat coronaviruses has been valuable for developing treatments, and
* “I have no conflicts of interest”.

The mainstream media have challenged very few, if any, of Daszak’s assertions. And judging by the deletion from The Guardian website of virologist Dr Jonathan Latham’s brief comment[1] on Daszak’s recent article, they don’t want anyone else to challenge his narrative either.





Far from facing critical scrutiny, Daszak has been presented as a hero – a brave virus hunter on a quest to locate and understand dangerous pathogens and alert the world to their dangers. In this narrative, he and his colleagues are experts racing against time to identify and mitigate the threat of pandemics. And sympathy for them has been amplified in the liberal media by the perception that they’re the victims of Trump and the China-bashers, who are deflecting from the President’s lamentable performance in tackling the pandemic.

But a number of well-informed scientific commentators are far from willing to give Daszak a free pass. One of them is the American biologist and evolutionary theorist Prof Bret Weinstein, who recently commented, “In looking at all of the sources that claim to put the idea of a lab leak to rest, I find the name Peter Daszak… shows up all over the place. He’s everywhere the idea is mocked.” But the information Daszak presents invariably does not check out, Weinstein says, and as a result, “I have begun to regard him as Patient Zero for misinformation.”

Another staunch critic is Rutgers University microbiologist Prof Richard Ebright, who has publicly accused Daszak of lying brazenly and “on a Trumpian scale”. Ebright has repeatedly subjected Daszak’s statements to the kind of forensic scrutiny many of his scientist colleagues and the media have been unwilling to provide. His incisive criticisms of Daszak’s assertions have largely been made on Twitter and so we draw heavily on his tweets in what follows.

“No conflicts of interest”

Back in mid-February, when the world was still counting COVID-19 deaths in the hundreds and almost all the deaths were still in China, a letter signed by Daszak and 26 co-signatories was published in The Lancet, condemning “conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin”. An article in Science explained that the signatories were “pushing back against a steady stream of stories and even a scientific paper suggesting a laboratory in Wuhan, China, may be the origin of the outbreak of COVID-19”.

The signatories all declared they had “no competing interests” – but that certainly wasn’t true in the case of Peter Daszak. Daszak is the founder and President of EcoHealth Alliance, a US non-profit that among other things has been a conduit for US funding for research on bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, including the gain-of-function research banned in the US from 2014-2017. Gain-of-function research seeks to study viruses by making them more virulent or transmissible, but has come under heavy scientific criticism for risking creating pandemics via leaks from the labs where it is carried out.

When Daszak similarly told the Washington Post, “I have no conflicts of interest,” Richard Ebright pointed out that Daszak was Project Leader on a $3.7 million “grant supporting bat coronavirus surveillance at Wuhan Institute of Virology and … bat coronavirus gain-of-function research at Wuhan Institute of Virology. If that is not a material conflict of interest,” Ebright tweeted, “then nothing is.”

And he’s right. If it emerged that this type of research created a global pandemic it could be immensely damaging for Daszak and his organisation, both reputationally and financially. And the financial impact would almost certainly go wider than just the Wuhan grant that was recently suspended.

Commenting on an attempt to compile a fuller picture of the funding EcoHealth Alliance has received from US government agencies, Ebright noted that it totalled $99.8 million “for federal contract awards, contract subawards, grant awards, and grant subawards to EcoHealth”. Most of this money, he said, came from US defence, homeland security and intelligence agencies.

In fact, according to their most recently available financial report, over 90% of EcoHealth Alliance’s funding ultimately derives in this way from US taxpayers. Incidentally, Daszak’s salary and other compensation amounted in that same year to just over $400,000.


Daszak Tweet no conflicts



Zoonotic “jumps occur every day”

So how reliable are Peter Daszak’s other assertions? One of Daszak’s favourite claims is that viruses frequently cross into humans from other species in so-called zoonotic jumps, or “spillover”. But this claim is far from mainstream. As the experts who answered questions on this for the BBC’s Science Focus Magazine explain, “Because every virus has evolved to target a particular species, it’s rare for a virus to be able to jump to another species” (emphasis added).

Remember that word “rare”, because we’ll keep coming across it as we examine Daszak’s claims to have evidence of the exact opposite: that bats – the prime suspects for the origin of SARS-CoV-2 – routinely infect huge numbers of people with SARS-related coronaviruses.

Evidence shows bats infect large numbers of people with SARS-related coronaviruses

In his recent Guardian piece telling people to “ignore the conspiracy theories”, Daszak claimed, “(W)e can safely estimate that between one and seven million people are infected with bat coronaviruses each year.”

So what is the evidence for this massive level of infection? Daszak summarises it in a tweet: “We conducted sero-surveys in SE Asia & found 3% of rural people have antibodies to bat CoVs [coronaviruses]. That means 1-7 million people per year exposed to bat origin SARS-related CoVs.”

But the study on which Daszak bases his claim of up to 7 million people per year being infected by bat origin SARS-related coronaviruses involved collecting serum samples from just 218 residents in four remote villages in Jinning County, Yunnan province, China – villages located close to bat caves containing the Chinese horseshoe bats that have been shown to be a reservoir of these particular coronaviruses. Of these 218 “high risk” residents, only 6 of them (2.7%) showed signs of having developed antibodies to bat coronaviruses.

As a co-author of this study, Daszak must know that it concluded, “The 2.7% seropositivity for the high risk group of residents living in close proximity to bat colonies suggests that spillover is a relatively rare event” (emphasis added). What’s more, another larger and more recent study that Daszak also co-authored went on to remove the “relatively” from the “rare” in that statement. This second study found only 0.6% (rather than 2.7%) of people living in close proximity to SARS-linked bat caves tested positive for bat coronaviruses. Its conclusion: “spillover is a rare event” (emphasis added).

In fact, the biotech entrepreneur Yuri Deigin says the evidence for these particular bat viruses infecting humans is even weaker than these preliminary studies admit. That is because there is no evidence that the viruses they were looking for antibodies to were actually capable of infecting people. Deigin also notes that the antibody levels detected were “pretty low”. But more importantly, as he points out, antibody production is not always evidence of a virus having got inside someone’s cells, just inside their body. He says, “The presence of antibodies, doesn’t mean the virus could infect cells. You could have antibodies to a banana.”

So even the modest conclusion to Daszak’s most recent paper – that bat-related zoonotic jumps are a “rare event” – is open to question. And his use of these studies to claim people in rural areas are infected by bat coronaviruses “on a daily basis”, as he recently told the BBC, is certainly not supported by his evidence.

Virus researchers are well protected

Daszak’s bigging up of zoonotic leaps is a key part of his argument as to why it would be crazy to consider the possibility of a lab leak with SARS-COV-19. After all, he argues, with so many people being infected with bat coronaviruses each year, “It's utterly illogical to think that this did not lead to the current outbreak.”

And he contrasts his bogus claim of evidence for mass infection with SARS-related bat coronaviruses with the small number of trained researchers with full protective equipment who might come into contact with such viruses as part of their work.

A recent CNN article about Daszak and his fellow virus hunters, who search bat caves in order to obtain bat blood, saliva, and fecal samples to test back in Wuhan, begins by setting the scene: “Before entering the cave, the small team of scientists pull on hazmat suits, face masks and thick gloves to cover every inch of their skin. Contact with bat droppings or urine could expose them to some of the world's deadliest unknown viruses.”

CNN’s piece is accompanied by photos showing scientists covered head to toe in full protective gear. But while this all fits the Daszak narrative, other pictures have surfaced showing staff from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) and the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) entering caves to collect novel bat coronaviruses, or handling bats and swabs, with only minimal personal protective equipment (PPE) and in some cases none at all.

For instance, a profile in Scientific American of Shi Zhengli, who heads up the WIV’s bat coronavirus programme, contains a photo of her wearing no protective equipment other than thin gloves when releasing a bat after taking a blood sample. Another published photo shows her and a group of colleagues wearing the most minimal PPE while handling bats – no goggles, bare arms in several cases, and one researcher doesn’t even have a face mask.

Richard Ebright also points to a Chinese official state media video from December 2019 showing Wuhan CDC staffer and Shi Zhengli collaborator Tian Junhua “collecting novel bat coronaviruses with inadequate PPE (bare skin on face, bare skin on wrists, no goggles, no faceshield)”.

A similar news report from 2017, according to Ebright, describes the “same Wuhan CDC staffer collecting novel bat coronaviruses with no PPE”. Bat urine is said to have “dripped from the top of his head like raindrops”. And, “Several times, bat blood was sprayed directly on Tian Junhua's skin. But Tian Junhua did not flinch at all.”


Ebright calls this kind of virus hunting “reckless Indiana-Jones-style adventurism”.


Wuhan researchers

Collection of pictures by @BillyBostickson of Shi Zengli and other Wuhan researchers collecting and handling bats without full PPE


There are “huge piles of rules and regulations governing what they do”


Regardless of how the viruses are obtained, Daszak claims that biosafety laboratories in Wuhan and elsewhere are guided by “huge piles of rules and regulations” on biosafety.

But Ebright says the BSL-2 biosafety level of the Wuhan CDC, which specialises in pathogen collection and where hundreds of live bats have been experimented on, is completely inadequate for its work with bats and coronaviruses.

Meanwhile, at the higher biosafety BSL-4 WIV, live bats are known to have been deliberately infected with viruses as part of experimental work. And more generally, there are multiple published records of WIV animal infection work with bat coronaviruses, including the most risky gain-of-function research.

Such experimentation generates tissue samples and lab waste contaminated with pathogens. A recent article in China’s state-run media, headlined Biosafety guideline issued to fix chronic management loopholes at virus labs, says China’s laboratories have been particularly sloppy in disposing of such waste, which the article notes “can contain man-made viruses, bacteria or microbes with a potentially deadly impact”. According to the article, some researchers have even discharged lab waste into sewers, while others have smuggled dead lab animals out to sell on the street.

The article, which goes out of its way to attack allegations of a lab leak from WIV itself, was published to coincide with the recent introduction of new biosafety legislation in China. As Dr Filippa Lentzos, a biosecurity researcher at King’s College London has commented, this move by the Chinese government “certainly suggests there was a need for this sort of guidance”. In other words, Daszak’s “huge piles” of existing rules and regulations were not even considered adequate by the Chinese authorities themselves.

The Chinese government may have been reacting to the worrying findings of a security review of the WIV lab conducted about a year before the COVID-19 outbreak by a Chinese national team. The review found the lab did not meet national standards in five categories. In addition to problems in the lab, state media also reported that national reviewers found scientists were sloppy when they were handling bats.

Ebright has also drawn attention to work at the BSL-4 WIV lab being carried out at the much lower BSL-2 biosafety level, which “provides only minimal protections against infection of lab workers”.

Pictures have emerged from inside the WIV showing a broken seal on the door of one of the refrigerators said to hold 1,500 different strains of virus.

And diplomatic cables sent to the US State Department following visits by US science diplomats to the WIV in 2018 warned about the risks arising from “a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory,” and of the lab’s work on bat coronaviruses representing a risk of a new SARS-like pandemic.

In contrast to Daszak’s dismissive complacency, Richard Ebright sees the whole endeavour from start to finish as a “disaster waiting to happen”.

People always say disease outbreaks “could have come from a lab”

Daszak told US National Public Radio (NPR) that to an experienced virus researcher like himself, the pattern is all too familiar: “Every time we get a new virus emerging, we have people that say, ‘This could have come from a lab’”. And the microbiologist Robert Garry – another prominent member of Husseini’s “loud crowd” of denialistsagrees: “Every time there’s an outbreak, people say, oh, there’s a lab close by.”

But let's consider the geography. SARS-related coronaviruses, including what is claimed by a WIV researcher to be the nearest natural ancestor of SARS-CoV-2 (RaTG13), were discovered in horseshoe bats in caves in a rural area of South West China, about a thousand miles away from Wuhan. If progenitors of SARS-CoV-2 had emerged in such a rural area and gradually evolved into a more human-specific virus, that would be no great surprise to anyone... and funnily enough there wouldn’t have been a lab close by.

But Wuhan is not only a thousand miles away from the bat caves in Yunnan, but highly industrialised, and at the time of the outbreak, any bats that were there would have been hibernating. In any case, Chinese horseshoe bats do not hibernate in cities. And, contrary to what was originally claimed, bats neither seem to have been sold or found at the so-called “wet market” in Wuhan. That is unsurprising, given that while bats are eaten in Southern China, they are not part of the cuisine in this Central Chinese city.

What’s particularly telling in this context is that when Daszak and his colleagues were looking for antibodies to bat coronaviruses in rural South West China, they used serum samples from blood donors in Wuhan as a control because, as the researchers explained, there was a “much lower likelihood of contact with bats”.

This is also, of course, why Shi Zengli told Scientific American she was shocked to hear about the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak there: “I had never expected this kind of thing to happen in Wuhan, in Central China.”

But there is a route by which new bat coronaviruses are known to have travelled to Central China’s most populous city. Researchers from Wuhan have repeatedly journeyed to the remote bat caves in South West China in order to find such viruses and bring them back to this city of 11 million people.

For Richard Ebright, going to remote places in order to actively seek out large numbers of dangerous new viruses to bring back to labs in densely populated cities is the definition of insanity. It is creating new opportunities for accidental infection of human populations at every stage: in the bat caves, in transit to Wuhan, during storage in Wuhan, and during research in Wuhan, especially given the clear evidence of questionable biosafety and inadequate protective equipment.

Ebright compares this endeavour, which claims to be making the world a safer place, to “looking for a gas leak with a lighted match”.[2]

“Lab accidents are extremely rare”

Ebright is equally dismissive of Peter Daszak’s claim that “lab accidents are extremely rare”, calling it “Arrant nonsense”.

That’s borne out by a review on biolab safety, which identified more than 1,000 instances of laboratory-acquired infections over a 25-year period, an average of almost one infection per week.

More broadly, biosafety incidents involving regulated pathogens are reported to be occurring on average over twice a week in the US alone. Such incidents can include the mishandling of agents as deadly as anthrax, smallpox, and bird flu.

And there is no reason to think that China, which has a rate of occupational accidents ten times that of the US, and twenty times that of Europe, is somehow different. After all, a virology lab in Beijing managed to accidentally release the SARS virus not once but four separate times.

Rather than being “extremely rare”, lab escapes are alarmingly common – worldwide.


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Lab escapes “have never led to largescale [disease] outbreaks”

Of course, even if lab escapes were rare, it would be of little comfort if they had dire consequences. But according to Daszak, they never amount to much.

Daszak’s claim isn’t quite as straightforward to assess as one might think, as we don’t always have good data on such incidents due to a lack of transparency. But even so, we know enough to be sure that what Daszak says isn’t true.

While most lab leaks have been at worst near misses or have only involved a small number of deaths, the anthrax outbreak that occurred in 1979 in the city of Sverdlovsk (now Yekaterinburg) in Russia shows not only how lethal such accidents can be, but how difficult it can be to get at the truth.

The exact number of victims in this outbreak still remains unknown, but approximately 100 people are thought to have died. At the time, the authorities insisted the deaths were due to people eating contaminated meat. And it wasn’t until years later, following the collapse of the Soviet Union, that it was possible to establish that the deaths had really been the result of a bioweapons lab accidentally releasing a large quantity of weaponised anthrax.

An H1N1 influenza outbreak two years earlier is also now generally accepted by scientists to have been the result of an accidental release from either a Chinese or Soviet biolab, possibly working on developing an H1N1 vaccine. The escaped virus rapidly spread worldwide, becoming a pandemic.

Pandemics by any definition are “largescale outbreaks”. And Richard Ebright points out that as there have only been four pandemics in the last fifty years, it means one in four came from a lab. This, of course, assumes COVID-19 is not a lab release. If it is, then we’re looking at one in two pandemics coming from a lab.

No live virus, only data on computers

But Daszak maintains that in the case of the WIV there was nothing that could escape and do any harm. He told Democracy Now, “There was no viral isolate in the lab. There was no cultured virus that’s anything related to SARS coronavirus 2. So it’s just not possible.”

The no live virus claim might seem surprising given that WIV is classified as a BSL4 lab and BSL4 is specifically for work with live viruses that could become aerosolised (like SARS-COV-2 can). And recently the director of the WIV acknowledged that they had “isolated and obtained some coronaviruses from bats”, but he also claimed they had only “three live strains of bat coronaviruses on site”.

But biological weapons expert Milton Leitenberg points out that WIV’s research activities suggest something very different. For instance, in June of this year, Daszak, Shi and colleagues published partial genetic sequences of 781 bat coronaviruses. This work, together with all the WIV animal infection studies mentioned earlier, requires live viruses, Leitenberg says, and not just RNA fragments. He also says that “knowledgeable virologists” have told him they think the number of live viruses required to be held by the WIV must be much higher than the three acknowledged by its director. Their best guess: “probably hundreds of live viral isolates”.

What has added to the distrust of the Daszak/WIV claims around this issue is irregularities that have emerged in Daszak’s collaborator Shi Zhengli’s account of the virus most closely related to SARS-COV-2. At the end of January, after the COVID-19 outbreak was well under way, Zhengli and her colleagues published a paper in the journal Nature laying out the genetic sequence of RaTG13, which is 96.2% identical to SARS-COV-2. Immediately, RaTG13 became one of the mainstays of the argument for the natural origin of SARS-COV-2. But Shi’s paper failed to disclose a series of key facts about its origin, identification and characterization that have since been uncovered only by painstaking detective work by others.

These irregularities have already resulted in some scientists calling for the paper’s retraction, while others have even suggested that the RaTG13 genetic sequence may be an invention. Further concern has been generated by the deletion without explanation of a 61.5Mb WIV virus database.

One final point about live viruses is that labs are not always on top of this issue. Animals in labs may harbour viruses that researchers have not yet discovered. And efforts to make sure that researchers are working only with deactivated biological agents can fail. That’s why lab accidents are regularly caused by researchers who assume they are not dealing with live agents when in fact they are. In China, for instance, two researchers at the National Institute of Virology in Beijing handled what they believed to be an inactive version of the SARS virus and became infected. As a result the virus spread beyond the lab, killing the mother of one of the researchers, as well as infecting six other people.

Valuable for developing treatments

Daszak argues that whatever the risks, the type of work EcoHealth Alliance has been enabling is vital for developing vaccines and drugs to cure people in the event of a serious disease outbreak.

But Richard Ebright dismisses this argument: “The *only* impact of the work is to create new opportunities for zoonoses to enter human populations (through accidental infection of field-collection staff or accidental infection of laboratory staff).” Given these risks, Ebright says, “One could not possibly invest research funding less wisely.”

Daszak’s riposte to such scepticism is to cite remdesivir, the broad-spectrum antiviral currently being evaluated for its usefulness in treating COVID-19 in clinical trials. In his recent Guardian piece, Daszak claims, “We worked with the scientists behind the breakthrough drug Remdesivir to show that it was effective against known human coronaviruses and the viruses we suspected might be the next to emerge.”

And he’s had some backing for this from Mark Denison, a Vanderbilt University virologist who has done lab studies on remdesivir. Denison told Science Magazine, “There is no more important research than what EcoHealth Alliance is doing. Our work on remdesivir absolutely would not have moved forward without it.”

But Ebright thinks such claims create a completely false impression. First, although Daszak says, “we worked with the scientists” behind remdesevir, not one of the papers that came out of Daszak’s bat coronavirus work had anything to do with remdesivir. Second, remdesivir’s antiviral activity against the coronavirus family, including SARS, was demonstrated as far back as 2012, before Daszak’s project kicked off.

It was also before Mark Denison and his colleague Ralph Baric became involved in the remdesivir research. Ebright says that “Baric and Denison then confirmed activity against SARS-CoV, and demonstrated activity against MERS-CoV.” Having demonstrated antiviral activity against these epidemic coronaviruses, he says, “Baric and Denison then corroborated the expected activity against group-2b and group-2c zoonotic coronaviruses.”

Of the four zoonotic coronaviruses used by Baric and Denison at this point in their testing, two had been collected as part of WIV/EcoHealth’s virus hunting efforts. But because remdesivir’s antiviral activity against coronaviruses was well established by the point it was tested against these two coronaviruses, Ebright says the fact that it also showed activity against them was, when it was reported in 2017, “anticlimax. Not main event”.

So, according to Ebright, the two viruses collected by WIV were far from crucial to remdesivir’s development. Even if they had been important though, this would only suggest a possible value for the extremely careful collection of such viruses, as opposed to “reckless Indiana-Jones-style adventurism”. It would also not justify transporting such potentially dangerous pathogens to densely populated areas for storage and experimentation. Finally, it absolutely wouldn’t justify the kind of risky gain-of-function research, conducted at WIV and elsewhere, where viruses are deliberately made more virulent or transmissible.

And neither Daszak nor anyone else, to our knowledge, has produced any convincing evidence that gain-of-function research has produced practical benefits for society to offset its enormous risks. However, according to Ebright, while this controversial research keeps failing to yield any of the promised drugs or vaccines, it is good at generating grants and scientific papers.

Ebright sees Daszak as an opportunist who, having cottoned on to this, has been able to generate a lucrative income stream – without doing any of his own research or having his own lab – by writing multi-lab grant applications for this kind of high risk research. This is how he has built up his handsomely-funded nonprofit with its Manhattan offices, not to mention his salary of over $400,000 per annum, while parcelling out “the remaining cash to labs in exchange for honorary authorships on papers”.

The Daszak gravy train is, of course, ultimately funded by American taxpayers who, like everyone else, get to share in its risks.


Ebright tweet opportunist





Should the world’s media be bowing down to Peter Daszak?

Peter Daszak seems determined to keep that gravy train firmly on the tracks and to crush suggestions that any lab-related activity could have contributed to this pandemic. And, as we have seen, he doesn’t appear to care what liberties he takes with the truth in order to dismiss any explorations of such possibilities as “crackpot theories”.

Yuri Deigin thinks this aggressive circling of the wagons is understandable: “He’s really fighting for his life so he really doesn’t have any other way to defend himself. If this does turn out to be a lab leak, the ramifications for him personally, I think, (will be) just too horrible for him… to entertain the slightest idea of the possibility of a lab escape.”

But Bret Weinstein considers this “too generous. The misinformation is too egregious. And the fact is any decent human being would recognise that humanity’s overarching interest in knowing what took place overrides his interest in maintaining his reputation... People are dying… This is not something where you get to defend your career at the expense of tens of thousands of other human beings.”

But while scientists like Weinstein, Deigin and Ebright view Daszak as one of the most biased and unreliable voices on the planet on the lab leak issue, the media treat him as a key expert whose utterances need not be scrutinised, let alone challenged.

In many ways this reflects the success of the campaign that Daszak helped launch in The Lancet back in January to rule discussion of lab leaks off-limits. The campaign has been so successful that five months later, not only does a virologist have his link[1] to a carefully argued counter-narrative to Daszak’s deleted from The Guardian website, but a Guardian Pick of the Comments describes Daszak’s piece as “one of the best written most balanced articles I’ve read on this yet” and expresses the hope that it “gets shared and read widely to counter misinformation”.

This is the same scientist that Bret Weinstein calls “Patient Zero for misinformation” and another well known biologist-communicator Jonathan Couey bluntly labels “a liar”. “His opinion is conflicted in the worst ways,” says Couey, “and he should not be the expert to whom we are listening. But we see him everywhere.”


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Footnotes

[1] Dr Jonathan Latham told us that his deleted comment simply stated he was a virologist and that while he didn’t agree with a paper Daszak had dismissed in his article, he did think a better analysis of why there might have been a lab origin to the virus was available. He included a link to the analysis, which he recently co-authored with a fellow molecular biologist.

Latham's analysis has won high praise – for example, from Milton Leitenberg, who describes it as “excellent” and recommends it for its depth of technical detail on gain-of-function work.


Looking at The Guardian’s community standards, it’s clear that Jonathan Latham’s brief comment does not violate any of them.


[2] Ebright attributes this simile for dangerous work with viruses to Peter Jahrling.

Sources

This dissection of Peter Daszak’s claims obviously owes a great deal to Richard Ebright, but also to a cluster of internet sleuths or “Twitter detectives”, as Yuri Deigin styles them, that include a number of molecular biologists and other well-informed people – some with Chinese language skills that have enabled them to dig into documents never before translated into English.
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) used the (modified through gain-of-function research biological weapon) virus leaked from the Wuhan lab as an opportunistic bioweapon when it lied to the world that person-to-person transmission was taking place, even as it allowed Chinese carriers of the CCP lab virus to spread it to the rest of the world. And certain individuals and big corporations in the west with financial ties to the Chinese Communist Party are still helping in the coverup of the truth.
 
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Location of Origin of COVID-19 Pandemic Identified – Between Two of China’s Biological Warfare Facilities in Wuhan

According to China’s own data, the original hot spot for COVID-19 infections occurred in a residential area in the four miles between the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Biological Preparations Institute of the China Biology Technology Group Corporation.

Both of those institutions have been associated with China’s biological warfare program and, prior to and since the onset of the pandemic, they have collaborated on vaccine development.


For months after the start of the pandemic in December 2019, China flooded the scientific literature with subtle and sometimes not so subtle messages supporting its narrative that COVID-19 is a naturally-occurring disease that “jumped” from animals to humans in the Wuhan seafood market.


On May 26, 2020, the Wall Street Journal reported that China was finally forced to admit that COVID-19 did not originate in the Wuhan seafood market, a theory now totally discredited, even by the Chinese Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Nevertheless, China’s attempts to cover-up the origin of COVID-19 continue.


Even as recently as February of this year, China has refused to give raw data on early COVID-19 cases to a World Health Organization (WHO) team probing the origins of the pandemic.


The WHO team had requested raw patient data on 174 cases that China had identified from the early phase of the outbreak in the city of Wuhan in December 2019, as well as other cases.


At the same time, Beijing has sought to cast doubt on the notion that COVID-19 originated in China, pointing to imported frozen food as a conduit.


Eventually, the WHO team was pressured by China to include in its report that dubious explanation for the origin of the pandemic.


There is, however, a far simpler and more accurate explanation for the origin of COVID-19, based on China’s own data.


Statistics published by the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission show that Wuchang district had the highest number of patients diagnosed with COVID-19 early in the pandemic.


Wuchang also had the highest concentration of asymptomatic infections during that same period.


It was also the case that the early international spread of COVID-19 had occurred in people who had visited the Wuchang district in the first half of January 2020, but had not gone to the Wuhan seafood market.


Data published by the Wuhan Wuchang District Health Bureau state that the highest concentration of infections in the early phase of the outbreak occurred in the residential areas along Huanghelou and Ziyang streets, both located within the four miles between the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Biological Preparations Institute.


Those observations match closely, in time and location, the social media data obtained from the Sina Weibo platform, which was designed as a channel for people who think that they might be infected to seek help.


A figure from that publication, but slightly modified to show the locations of the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV, black star) and the Biological Preparations Institute (BPI, yellow square), shows that the highest concentration of help seekers before January 18, 2020, were in the areas between those two research institutions.


Note that there are fewer help seekers outside that area, including at the Wuhan seafood market (red circle).





Based on the available scientific evidence, the COVID-19 virus was the product of “gain of function” research, not a natural transmission from an animal host to humans.

Gain of function research is defined as when a naturally-occurring virus is genetically or otherwise manipulated to make it either more contagious, more lethal, or both.

There are only two reasons for conducting gain of function research, (a) to understand the structural features and actions of a virus to create a vaccine in anticipation of a potential disease outbreak or (b) to create a biological weapon, or both.

It is most likely that China was conducting, within the framework of a biological warfare program, parallel development of a unique genetically-engineered coronavirus pathogen and a vaccine to treat it.
Like the author, I have my suspicions that the Wuhan lab already had a vaccine for the Covid-19 virus (as you generally develop a vaccine to the bioweapon also when you create the bioweapon), which they may have already given to the Chinese Communist Party members when the lab leak happened. This would've also helped in containing the spread of the disease eventually.
 
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Tucker Carlson: Why the media, scientific community and WHO won't investigate COVID origins
China's recklessness and dishonesty led to the pandemic, but Americans will pay the price
Tucker Carlson: Why the media, scientific community and WHO won't investigate COVID origins
China's recklessness and dishonesty led to the pandemic, but Americans will pay the price


'Tucker Carlson Tonight' host analyzes the investigation into the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic

A remarkable twist in a tragedy, still ongoing, with effects that have transformed this country forever: just days before authorities reported the first cases of the coronavirus in Wuhan, a top inspector at the World Health Organization sat for an interview that was broadcast on YouTube.
The inspector was a man called Peter Daszak. He spoke about his research with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which had been going on for more than 15 years. In the interview, Daszak also discussed his nonprofit organization, which had received millions from the U.S. government. Daszak channeled a substantial percentage of that money to the lab in Wuhan, which he described as, "world-class lab of the highest standards." Some of that work, paid for by American taxpayers, went to something called "gain-of-function research." It involved manipulating viruses in a laboratory to make them more transmissible and more deadly. In his YouTube interview, Peter Daszak spoke freely about all of this. At the time, he had no reason not to. Outside of a handful of diplomats, no one had raised concerns about the kind of research into bat viruses, very dangerous research it turns out, that was taking place in Wuhan. According to Peter Daszak, his research, and the grant money that supported it, was necessary to create a vaccine to prevent the next global pandemic. Daszak even explained how easy it is to manipulate a coronavirus.
DASZAK: Coronavirus is a pretty good…You can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily. It’s spike protein. Spike protein drives a lot of what happens with the coronavirus, zoonotic risk. So you can get the sequence, build the protein. And we worked with Ralph Barrack at UNC to do this. Insert into a backbone of another virus and then do some work in the lab.

"You can manipulate them pretty easily" in a lab. That recorded on December 9, 2019. It wasn’t long before Peter Daszak stopping giving interviews about his lab experiments. People were starting to ask uncomfortable questions. Wasn’t there an advanced virology lab with a history of sloppy containment protocols, very close to where the first out outbreak occurred? Well yes there was. But Peter Daszak didn’t want to talk to about that. So he and other bureaucrats at the World Health Organization came up with an alternative explanation for the pandemic.

The virus, they told the world, had most likely emerged from an exotic mammal that form some reason was being sold in a seafood market in Wuhan. That’s what happened. The media bought that explanation. Later we discovered that was not true. There was never any evidence that COVID infections originated in a pangolin eaten for food.
The locals in Wuhan laughed at that idea. Peter Daszak didn’t apologize. He just kept deflecting attention from the lab.
In April, he told the show DemocracyNow that, "The idea that this virus escaped from a lab is just pure baloney. It’s simply not true. I’ve been working with that lab for 15 years. They’re some of the best scientists in the world."
Daszak has pushed that line ever since. Relentlessly.
Last summer, he wrote an op-ed in The Guardian entitled, "Ignore the conspiracy theories: scientists know Covid-19 wasn't created in a lab." Then made the point on Twitter repeatedly.

DASZAK: "[Gain-of-function] research has nothing to do with the origin of COVID unless you believe the conspiracy theories. Why mix the two together if the virus came from bats, which is what all the evidence suggests?"

Almost every media outlet in this country dutifully repeated Daszak's claims as fact. As early as January, National Public Radio reported, "A wet market Wuhan, China, is catching the blame as the probable source of the current coronavirus outbreak that's sweeping the globe." That was fast. It was a few days into the pandemic, and it wasn’t clear that NPR had sent anyone to the ground in Wuhan, but somehow they knew exactly where the virus came from half a world away in central China.
National Geographic, famous for its expeditions, also determined, somehow, that the issue was settled. "Wet markets launched the coronavirus," they wrote. "Here's what you need to know."
So, the investigative reporters were satisfied with no investigation. But some people still had questions. One of them was Alina Chan, who’s a molecular biologist at the Broad Institute at Harvard and MIT. Chan noticed something odd about the coronavirus. Its genome hadn't changed much over time, even though it, the virus, had undergone trillions of replications. That’s strange. Normally, viruses that jump from animals to human have to adapt quickly to their human hosts. That's what the last SARS virus did, in 2003. Early-stage SARS viruses looked very different from SARS viruses later in the pandemic. But this coronavirus wasn't behaving that way. In fact, it seemed like it was custom-built for human transmission.

When Chan published a paper on her findings, Peter Daszak attacked her to any reporter who would listen. He called Chan's conclusions "preposterous" and a "conspiracy theory." Most media organizations followed suit, and the story went away.
After all, Alina Chan was just one molecular biologist. What did she know? She was easy enough to ignore.

That's, of course, exactly what happened to a Chinese virologist, Dr. Li-Meng Yang, whom we spoke to on this show. Yang was working in Wuhan in the early days of the pandemic, but the American media dismissed her as a, nut, a conspiracy theorist. There’s nothing to see here. Go away, crazy Chinese lady. And so she did.
But going forward, it may be much more difficult to dismiss this story. On Sunday, the former Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Robert Redfield, told CNN that based on everything he knows, he too believes the coronavirus likely came from the lab in Wuhan.
REDFIELD: I am of the point of view that I still think the most likely ideology of this pathogen in Wuhan was from a laboratory, escaped. Other people don’t believe that. That’s fine. Science will eventually figure it out. It’s not unusual for respiratory pathogens that are being worked on in a laboratory to infect the laboratory worker.
It’s hard to dismiss Robert Redfield as a QAnon enthusiast or a lunatic. He’s not. Redfield is a former Army officer who has spent his life studying virology. That doesn't mean he's always right about everything, and in fact, he’s often been wrong during this pandemic. But it does mean that what he says is worth assessing carefully. That's supposed to be what journalists do for a living. They look into claims that have some merit, not proven, but should be looked into. Especially claims that have enormous implications for this country.

But that's not what happened. The scientists over at MSNBC and CNN -- the same people who silenced Alina Chan got to work immediately.
ERIN BURNETT, CNN: Former CDC director, Robert Redfield, told our own Sanjay Gupta in a new CNN documentary, that he believes COVID-19 originated from a lab in Wuhan, even though, obviously, there has been no formal evidence to support the theory.

SCOTT GOTTLIEB, CBS: You know, the lab-leak theory doesn't seem like a plausible theory unless you aggregate the biggest collection of coronaviruses and put them in a lab.
ALI VELSHI, MSNBC: The theory that the virus originated in a lab in Wuhan, China. But tonight Dr. Anthony Fauci tells national geographic that, "This virus could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated."
CHRIS HAYES MSNBC: Both scientist and U.S. intelligence community agree, that this virus was not man made. That is not a possibility it came from a natural source, it didn’t come from a lab…A lot of people on the right love that phrase "escape from the lab" because it sounds like something from Marvel movie or comic book. It sounds like they are talking about a man made virus that China was weaponizing that got out of control.

So scientists and the U.S. intelligence community are unanimous: it did not come from a lab. What’s so interesting, of course, is we don’t know. There isn’t conclusive evidence in either direction. So why were these self-appointed TV doctors and talking heads instantly making it political and instantly claiming something they can’t prove. The New York Times immediately published a hit piece entitled, "Ex-CDC Director Favors Debunked Covid-19 Origin Theory." According to the Times, "intelligence agencies ... [have] no evidence that the coronavirus had escaped from the lab."

That’s not exactly true. It’s not a settled question. Last April, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a statement noting that the intelligence community has not ruled out a leak from the lab in Wuhan.
Intelligence officials said that they will, "continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan." As recently as just last month, the Director of National Intelligence stood by that statement.

So, why are so many trying to dismiss these claims out of hand, as if they know? Why are they trying to make the former CDC director be quiet? Part of the answer, of course: to protect China. The World Health Organization is funded by China, and they’re certainly working hard to do that. This week, the WHO Released what it called a "report" on the origins of the coronavirus. There was only one researcher based in the United States who participated in the WHO’s investigation into the origin of the virus. Guess who it was? Peter Daszak. Surprise, surprise.

Now guess what Daszak and his colleagues discovered in their "investigation"? A lot of Chinese innocence. In the WHO’s 120-page report on the origins of the coronavirus, only two pages were devoted to the possibility the virus may have come from a lab.
"Although rare, laboratory accidents do happen, and different laboratories around the world are working with bat coronaviruses," the report admits. And yes, it says, "The Wuhan CDC laboratory moved on 2nd December 2019 to a new location near the [wet] market. Such moves can be disruptive for the operations of any laboratory."
But don't get the wrong idea, says the WHO. It is "extremely unlikely" the virus came from a lab. Why is it so unlikely, exactly?
"There is no record of viruses closely related to [the coronavirus] in any laboratory before December 2019, or genomes that in combination could provide a SARS-CoV-2 genome."
In other words, we didn’t find a paper trail because China didn’t leave one.

But, the WHO would like you to know, if anyone could keep deadly viruses from escaping into the rest of the world, it’s the Wuhan Institute of Virology. "The three laboratories in Wuhan working with either [coronavirus] diagnostics and/or [coronavirus] isolation and vaccine development all had high quality biosafety level facilities that were well-managed," the report read.
Case closed. By the way, this is contradicted by first-hand testimony of American diplomats who went into the lab and said "wow, this looks dangerous." But according to the WHO, China and the World Health Organization did nothing wrong, so stop asking questions. And yet it’s interesting that people won’t stop. Some people are continuing to ask. On Sunday, a former national security official told CBS that the WHO report has all the credibility of a North Korean evening news broadcast.
Jamie Metzl, served in the Clinton administration and then the WHO advisory committee, can’t be described as a right-winger. But this was too much, and Jamie Metzl said so.
METZL: I wouldn't really call what's happened now an investigation. It's essentially a highly-chaperoned, highly-curated study tour…Everybody around the world is imagining this is some kind of full investigation. It’s not. This group of experts only saw what the Chinese government wanted them to see…It was agreed first that China would have veto power over who even got to be on the mission…WHO agreed to that…Imagine if we have asked the Soviet Union to do a co-investigation of Chernobyl. It doesn't really make sense.

So why are so many people in positions of authority, including the so-called scientific community, so adamant that there’s nothing to see here?

Here’s one suggestion: last year, Richard Ebright, a microbiologist at Rutgers, sat for an interview with Boston Magazine. He explained why the scientific community might want to hide the origins of a pandemic like this. He said, "For the substantial subset of virologists who perform gain-of-function research, avoiding restrictions on research funding, avoiding implementation of appropriate biosafety standards, and avoiding implementation of appropriate research oversight are powerful motivators."
Another scientist, Antonio Regalado from MIT, was more direct about it. If it's determined the virus came from a lab, Regalado said, it would, "shatter the scientific edifice, top to bottom."

The scientific edifice is one thing everyone in Washington would like to see preserved. It’s what gave politicians the power they've abused for the past year -- the power to change elections, to eliminate thousands of small businesses, to make certain industries much richer and more powerful and destroy others.
Tomorrow, the Biden administration is not going to announce a new investigation into the origins of the coronavirus. They're happy with the WHO report. Instead, they're going to announce one of the largest tax hikes in this country's history. Maybe the largest. It's projected to total between three and four trillion dollars. Most of the cost will fall on the middle class. At one point, the Biden people even tried to work in a gas tax, just to make sure hourly workers were hurt most.
Meanwhile, China, whose recklessness and dishonesty knocked America from global preeminence and destroyed millions of lives in the process, doesn't have to pay a cent. They’re richer, and we’re getting poorer. Expect that trend to continue. Here’s the interesting thing: no one’s even suggesting reparations from China for COVID. No one can even utter the word. Reparations are for America to pay, always.
 

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Here is the link to the video part of above article:
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Tucker: It's 'much more difficult to dismiss' Wuhan lab leak claims
Mar. 31, 2021 - 14:38 - 'Tucker Carlson Tonight' host analyzes the investigation into the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic

Check out the part where Peter Daszak talks about combining bat coronaviruses' DNA as part of the experiments he conducted with Chinese scientists (and helped provide funding for through his company) in the Wuhan lab.
 
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Chinese shit is hitting us more hard than first wave .. stay safe fellas.. it doesn't look good...


As Always, India's best CM's are leading the pack... MH / PB / GUJ
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For MH, the max cases in a day were around 23 K in first wave and morons have already hit double digit growth....

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