Why Germany lost WW2?

Assassin 2.0

New Member
Joined
Aug 13, 2019
Messages
6,087
Likes
30,705
Country flag
Again, review history and be objective. The Bengsl fsmine was not the result of a special order by Churchill to cause famine in Bengal region. It was a long time in the making (decades) caused by overpopulation, decreasing landholdings by most peasants due to predatory lending by Indian f8nanciers and landgrabbing, half-hearted or lack of proper attention from the British, and eventual nevessities of WW2 like rationing, prioritization of food supplies, military policy of denying food access to Japanese forces (scorched earth). The latter part were the immediate cause but the underlying cause is decades of mismanagement. In other words, tge deaths if the population were not intentional and the blame has to be shared by a lot of parties, the Brits, their Indian partners, the landgrabbers, overpopulation, etc.
Hey 21st century slave don't even try to spread BS on this subject if you don't know how much pain that MAN MADE DISASTER HURT INDIAN'S.
If you can't accept that i can also unzip ky pant and piss on all of your allied forces idiots which died in that war.

I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits." -Winston Churchill

The British had a ruthless economic agenda when it came to operating in India and that did not include empathy for native citizens. Under the British Raj, India suffered countless famines. But the worst hit was Bengal. The first of these was in 1770, followed by severe ones in 1783, 1866, 1873, 1892, 1897 and lastly 1943-44. Previously, when famines had hit the country, indigenous rulers were quick with useful responses to avert major disasters. After the advent of British rule, most of the famines were a consequence of monsoonal delays along with the exploitation of the country’s natural resources by the British for their own financial gain. Yet they did little to acknowledge the havoc these actions wrought. If anything, they were irritated at the inconveniences in taxation the famines brought about.

A lot has been written about the devastating Bengal famine of 1943 that wiped out 3.7 million (many put the figure even higher) people from the face of this earth. Many accounts of the famine also contain elaborate evidence of the criminal complicity of Winston Churchill in not just creating the famine, but also letting the millions die because he, a racist and white supremacist, hated them. However, it is never ever enough to retell the terrible, British-made tragedy that befell Bengal, not at least till Churchill’s successors—and they continue to enjoy the wealth created out of the loot of India by the British—apologise for that horrendous crime against humanity and pay reparations for it.
The British, say historians, had banned farmers in large parts of India from growing paddy and wheat, ordering them to grow indigo and opium instead, which could be exported and would earn huge sums for the British treasury. Thus, production of foodgrains declined substantially in India, and there were no buffer stocks when paddy crops in Bengal failed. Also, thanks to British policies and over-taxation, farmers sunk deep in debt and had to sell off their lands to bigger landlords (jotedars). The British encouraged the rich landlords to exploit the poor and landless in order to maximise their profits.

Fearing a Japanese advance into British India from the eastern part of Bengal, the British implemented the ‘scorched-earth’ policy to deny the advancing Japanese troops access to food and transport. Thus, rice stocks in the eastern part of Bengal were confiscated and destroyed, leaving people to starve. The British also confiscated all boats—more than 46,000 of them—thus crippling movement of food and people. Paddy could not be taken to markets and food could not be distributed. Farmers, traders, fishermen, and boatmen were thus reduced to penury, and the complete halt in movement of food led to hunger and starvation. The British administration made no effort to address the crisis faced by local people.

To exacerbate the already worsening food crisis in Bengal, other provinces started banning food exports outside their territories fearing a rise in food prices due to the rise in demand for food from Bengal. The British administrators in Delhi did nothing to discourage and remove such bans. And even as the first signs of famine emerged in mid-1942, the British administration started preferential distribution of goods and services to workers in essential war industries. Rice was diverted from the starving rural poor to feed private and government wartime industries, military and civilian construction, paper and textile mills, engineering firms, the railways, coal mining, and government workers at various levels. Similarly, medicines and state as well as private medical care were prioritised for troops and those connected with the war effort, leaving the hungry and ailing masses to die like flies.

Many historians also cite the events leading up to the Quit India Movement, and this movement itself, as contributing factors for the famine. In order to enlist the full cooperation of the Indians in the war, Churchill despatched a team under Stafford Cripps (the ‘Cripps Mission’) to negotiate a limited transfer of power after the war. The mission failed, and the Congress launched the Quit India movement. The British responded by jailing Congress leaders, and with no leadership to direct the movement, it soon became militant and resulted in large-scale sabotage of factories, bridges, telegraph, and railway lines, thereby threatening Britain’s war enterprise. This is said to have led to a hardening of British attitude towards Indians and made an already hateful Churchill more apathetic to the plight of the starving millions in Bengal.

Between late 1942 and early 1943, Viceroy Linlithgow, Bengal Governor John Herbert, commander-in-chief of British forces in India General Auchinleck, and even the supreme commander of British forces in South-East Asia Lord Louis Mountbatten began requesting London for food imports to Bengal. But the British war cabinet under Churchill continuously turned down those requests and, instead, asked for rice imports from Bengal to Ceylon be stepped up. The British war cabinet also declined offers of food relief from several countries, including the United States of America and Canada. Churchill directed food shipments from New Zealand and Australia to Ceylon, Middle East, South Africa, and Europe to augment the already-existing vast stocks of food there when he could have easily sent even a portion of them to Bengal. It was as if Churchill was hell-bent on pushing the starving millions of Bengal to certain death.

Starvation and malnutrition combined with the unchecked spread of diseases like malaria, smallpox, and cholera due to denial of medical care and medicines to the civilians not connected with the war effort, thus leading to the millions of deaths. The famine also caused acute social distress—mass migration of people, dissolution and disintegration of millions of families, orphaned and widowed hundreds of thousands or children and women, and pushed tens of thousands and women and girls into prostitution.

Churchill’s apologists, some Britishers, and others argue that the famine was an unintended consequence of the war and that it was an unfortunate combination of natural disasters, crop failures, market failures, and the preoccupation of the British war cabinet with the war, due to which it could not pay adequate attention to providing relief to Bengal’s starving millions. What they forget is that the British were ruling over India by force at that time, and the prime responsibility for welfare of British subjects lay with Churchill, who did nothing to provide relief to Bengal when he could easily have. And it is not that the British civilians—who viewed even bread rationing an “intolerable deprivation”—themselves were anywhere near starving at any point during the war. Indians paid for their lives for the British war enterprise and Churchill, as the British premier, was responsible. The British caused the famine, and whether by their ineptness or by design is a matter for academic debate. But the seventy-fifth anniversary of the Bengal famine is the apt time for the British to own up to the holocaust. And start paying reparations.

Postscript: British prime minister Tony Blair apologised for British complicity in the Irish potato famine of the 1840s that cost a million Irish lives.

images (34).jpeg


I can also post sentiment photos. ****** here keep barking shit like a idiot.
 

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,558
Country flag
There were institutional atrocities by both the sides. US and UK even kept German slaves after the war was over, there were war crimes which were hushed up by 'Allied friendly' media and the entire Allied war machinery. Many German PoWs were left to die either by neglect or torture.

So whitewashing Allies atrocities by blaming Soviets over Western forces is propaganda. None of the sides were well behaved but it's always the victors who write history.
The only Western allied strategy or act ordered by the top brass that can be considered as reprehensible is the bombing of German cities. But that was to both destroy the industrial capacity of Germany and break to morale of the population. But the Germans pioneered ssturation bombing in Spain and then during WW2 by Luftwaffe bombing Polish cities.

The Americans also fire bomb Japanese cities but that was to break Japanese will to fight. America did not like to send American troops to mainland Japan since the Japanese were fanatics and would fight to the death. So Americans resorted to trying to break the Japanese will to fight the kast of which were the Atom bombs. But any leader fighting Imperisl Japan at the time with the resources of America would do the same. I know I would have ordered those bombings.
 

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,558
Country flag
Hey 21st century slave don't even try to spread BS on this subject if you don't know how much pain that MAN MADE DISASTER HURT INDIAN'S.
If you can't accept that i can also unzip ky pant and piss on all of your allied forces idiots which died in that war.

I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits." -Winston Churchill

The British had a ruthless economic agenda when it came to operating in India and that did not include empathy for native citizens. Under the British Raj, India suffered countless famines. But the worst hit was Bengal. The first of these was in 1770, followed by severe ones in 1783, 1866, 1873, 1892, 1897 and lastly 1943-44. Previously, when famines had hit the country, indigenous rulers were quick with useful responses to avert major disasters. After the advent of British rule, most of the famines were a consequence of monsoonal delays along with the exploitation of the country’s natural resources by the British for their own financial gain. Yet they did little to acknowledge the havoc these actions wrought. If anything, they were irritated at the inconveniences in taxation the famines brought about.

A lot has been written about the devastating Bengal famine of 1943 that wiped out 3.7 million (many put the figure even higher) people from the face of this earth. Many accounts of the famine also contain elaborate evidence of the criminal complicity of Winston Churchill in not just creating the famine, but also letting the millions die because he, a racist and white supremacist, hated them. However, it is never ever enough to retell the terrible, British-made tragedy that befell Bengal, not at least till Churchill’s successors—and they continue to enjoy the wealth created out of the loot of India by the British—apologise for that horrendous crime against humanity and pay reparations for it.
The British, say historians, had banned farmers in large parts of India from growing paddy and wheat, ordering them to grow indigo and opium instead, which could be exported and would earn huge sums for the British treasury. Thus, production of foodgrains declined substantially in India, and there were no buffer stocks when paddy crops in Bengal failed. Also, thanks to British policies and over-taxation, farmers sunk deep in debt and had to sell off their lands to bigger landlords (jotedars). The British encouraged the rich landlords to exploit the poor and landless in order to maximise their profits.

Fearing a Japanese advance into British India from the eastern part of Bengal, the British implemented the ‘scorched-earth’ policy to deny the advancing Japanese troops access to food and transport. Thus, rice stocks in the eastern part of Bengal were confiscated and destroyed, leaving people to starve. The British also confiscated all boats—more than 46,000 of them—thus crippling movement of food and people. Paddy could not be taken to markets and food could not be distributed. Farmers, traders, fishermen, and boatmen were thus reduced to penury, and the complete halt in movement of food led to hunger and starvation. The British administration made no effort to address the crisis faced by local people.

To exacerbate the already worsening food crisis in Bengal, other provinces started banning food exports outside their territories fearing a rise in food prices due to the rise in demand for food from Bengal. The British administrators in Delhi did nothing to discourage and remove such bans. And even as the first signs of famine emerged in mid-1942, the British administration started preferential distribution of goods and services to workers in essential war industries. Rice was diverted from the starving rural poor to feed private and government wartime industries, military and civilian construction, paper and textile mills, engineering firms, the railways, coal mining, and government workers at various levels. Similarly, medicines and state as well as private medical care were prioritised for troops and those connected with the war effort, leaving the hungry and ailing masses to die like flies.

Many historians also cite the events leading up to the Quit India Movement, and this movement itself, as contributing factors for the famine. In order to enlist the full cooperation of the Indians in the war, Churchill despatched a team under Stafford Cripps (the ‘Cripps Mission’) to negotiate a limited transfer of power after the war. The mission failed, and the Congress launched the Quit India movement. The British responded by jailing Congress leaders, and with no leadership to direct the movement, it soon became militant and resulted in large-scale sabotage of factories, bridges, telegraph, and railway lines, thereby threatening Britain’s war enterprise. This is said to have led to a hardening of British attitude towards Indians and made an already hateful Churchill more apathetic to the plight of the starving millions in Bengal.

Between late 1942 and early 1943, Viceroy Linlithgow, Bengal Governor John Herbert, commander-in-chief of British forces in India General Auchinleck, and even the supreme commander of British forces in South-East Asia Lord Louis Mountbatten began requesting London for food imports to Bengal. But the British war cabinet under Churchill continuously turned down those requests and, instead, asked for rice imports from Bengal to Ceylon be stepped up. The British war cabinet also declined offers of food relief from several countries, including the United States of America and Canada. Churchill directed food shipments from New Zealand and Australia to Ceylon, Middle East, South Africa, and Europe to augment the already-existing vast stocks of food there when he could have easily sent even a portion of them to Bengal. It was as if Churchill was hell-bent on pushing the starving millions of Bengal to certain death.

Starvation and malnutrition combined with the unchecked spread of diseases like malaria, smallpox, and cholera due to denial of medical care and medicines to the civilians not connected with the war effort, thus leading to the millions of deaths. The famine also caused acute social distress—mass migration of people, dissolution and disintegration of millions of families, orphaned and widowed hundreds of thousands or children and women, and pushed tens of thousands and women and girls into prostitution.

Churchill’s apologists, some Britishers, and others argue that the famine was an unintended consequence of the war and that it was an unfortunate combination of natural disasters, crop failures, market failures, and the preoccupation of the British war cabinet with the war, due to which it could not pay adequate attention to providing relief to Bengal’s starving millions. What they forget is that the British were ruling over India by force at that time, and the prime responsibility for welfare of British subjects lay with Churchill, who did nothing to provide relief to Bengal when he could easily have. And it is not that the British civilians—who viewed even bread rationing an “intolerable deprivation”—themselves were anywhere near starving at any point during the war. Indians paid for their lives for the British war enterprise and Churchill, as the British premier, was responsible. The British caused the famine, and whether by their ineptness or by design is a matter for academic debate. But the seventy-fifth anniversary of the Bengal famine is the apt time for the British to own up to the holocaust. And start paying reparations.

Postscript: British prime minister Tony Blair apologised for British complicity in the Irish potato famine of the 1840s that cost a million Irish lives.

View attachment 44198

I can also post sentiment photos. ****** here keep barking shit like a idiot.

"If it makes you happy..."

Now, let's go back on topic as to why Hitler lost WW2?
 

Indx TechStyle

Kitty mod
New Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2015
Messages
18,416
Likes
56,946
Country flag
According to your twisted history.





If it's only about posting photos, I could also do but other members did already.
Again, review history and be objective. The Bengsl fsmine was not the result of a special order by Churchill to cause famine in Bengal region. It was a long time in the making (decades) caused by overpopulation
It was supposed to compensated by Indian food and resources that was taken away by Brits.

No matter how much propaganda they print to whitewash themselves, India could reach that massive population because it could sustain. And it was exploration of Indian resources alone which made England rich and a great power.

They can twist it as much as they want feel good and make themselves look ethical, they were plunderers fighting with each other for theft.

Whether they like it or not.
 
Last edited:

Indx TechStyle

Kitty mod
New Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2015
Messages
18,416
Likes
56,946
Country flag
A major reason that hasn't been listed on article is "White Supermacy".
Nazis were allied with Japanese, who are not white. But Hitler always hated this fact. He used to tell to his officials:
How sad we are helping japanese to end dominance of white man in asia.
if british ask me to help them, I will send my military right away and throw the yellow man out
He wasn't enjoying it all at first place.
 

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,558
Country flag
Imagine the racism within US forces of WW2 that even Nazis used to weaponize it as psyops propaganda.

Blacks were either sidelined or got their due decades after the WW2 ended.




Doscrimination against blacks were no doubt a big black eye to America. But oh man, this fun....

Here we are 80 years after WW2, we still hsve this...

The Continuing Practice of Untouchability in India
https://www.epw.in/journal/2020/2/special-articles/continuing-practice-untouchability-india.html
 

Assassin 2.0

New Member
Joined
Aug 13, 2019
Messages
6,087
Likes
30,705
Country flag
No matter how much propaganda they print to whitewash themselves, India could reach that massive population because it could sustain. And it was exploration of Indian resources alone which made England rich and a great power.
Arey yeh esa chutiya h ki yeh propaganda k name p bc zameen p giri hui thook ko bhi chaat lega or kahe ga ki wo bhot badiya h.
Esa banda pheli barr dekha h mene without any brains of his own.
 

Assassin 2.0

New Member
Joined
Aug 13, 2019
Messages
6,087
Likes
30,705
Country flag

thethinker

New Member
Joined
Dec 18, 2013
Messages
2,808
Likes
6,489
Country flag

Indx TechStyle

Kitty mod
New Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2015
Messages
18,416
Likes
56,946
Country flag
Doscrimination against blacks were no doubt a big black eye to America. But oh man, this fun....

Here we are 80 years after WW2, we still hsve this...

The Continuing Practice of Untouchability in India
https://www.epw.in/journal/2020/2/special-articles/continuing-practice-untouchability-india.html
This stupid argument is as good as and you are lynching negroes.

Untouchability and caste discrimination are limited to remote areas and will collapse from there too. Both Indian nationalists and Hindu nationalists (who follow Dharma), don't advocate for discrimination.

Again, unlike USA which was built by white intruders on corpses of natives on the idea of white supermacy, India is a succession of old settlements.
The founding fathers of USA, likes of Washington and Jefferson who are sold as anti slavery were hardcore white supremacists and disgusted blacks.

Western racism is institutionalized, was base of foundation of their countries unlike India where it arose within societies with superstitions and eventually collapsed with time in various forms.
 

Assassin 2.0

New Member
Joined
Aug 13, 2019
Messages
6,087
Likes
30,705
Country flag
WE know P!$$lam invaded- destroyed native cultures and converted many Asians countries but how-many people here know 'THERE IS ONLY ONE country IN ASIA converted to another M-E Abrahamic cult- Xtianity


guess!!

PHILIPPINES (94%)
No-doubt they supports West more than neighbor Japan

Spread religion
Always have control on that nation.
Simple Funda always work.
 

thethinker

New Member
Joined
Dec 18, 2013
Messages
2,808
Likes
6,489
Country flag
This stupid argument is same as https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes .

Untouchability and caste discrimination are limited to remote areas and will collapse from there too. Both Indian nationalists and Hindu nationalists (who follow Dharma), don't advocate for discrimination.

Again, unlike USA which was built by white intruders on corpses of natives on the ideological of white supermacy, India is a succession of old settlements.
The founding fathers of USA, likes of Washington and Jefferson who are sold as anti slavery were hardcore white supremacists and disgusted blacks.
This is one stupid troll.

He is comparing untouchability with systematic institutional racism like the Jim Crow laws which were prevalent in US.
 

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,558
Country flag
Totally understand your frustration. Your attempts to whitewash Allied crimes failed miserably here so you switch to the anti India narrative. :lol:
Well for one we were having a lively discussion on tge defeat of Germsny in WW2 until an id1ot derailed the topic by bringing out issues unrelated to the topic like American annexation of California. So I'm just responding 8n kind.

Second, another id1ot brought out old tales of American discrimination against blacks. So I just showed him the mirror: "look into the mirror dude!"
 

Assassin 2.0

New Member
Joined
Aug 13, 2019
Messages
6,087
Likes
30,705
Country flag
Well for one we were having a lively discussion on tge defeat of Germsny in WW2 until an id1ot derailed the topic by bringing out issues unrelated to the topic like American annexation of California. So I'm just responding 8n kind.

Second, another id1ot brought out old tales of American discrimination against blacks. So I just showed him the mirror: "look into the mirror dude!"
He just showed you weren't the saint's/allied forces and he is still right. You can now only squirm.
 

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,558
Country flag
WE know P!$$lam invaded- destroyed native cultures and converted many Asians countries but how-many people here know 'THERE IS ONLY ONE country IN ASIA converted to another M-E Abrahamic cult- Xtianity'!


Guess!!

PHILIPPINES (94%)

No-doubt they supports West more than neighbor Japanese.

Who supported Imperial Japan in Asia in WW2? The Japanese back then were the equals of the most rabid NAZIs as far as discrimination and murderous policies are concerned. They viewed every Asian nation other than their own as essentially subhumans.
 

Indx TechStyle

Kitty mod
New Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2015
Messages
18,416
Likes
56,946
Country flag
Well for one we were having a lively discussion on tge defeat of Germsny in WW2 until an id1ot derailed the topic by bringing out issues unrelated to the topic like American annexation of California. So I'm just responding 8n kind.

Second, another id1ot brought out old tales of American discrimination against blacks. So I just showed him the mirror: "look into the mirror dude!"
Actually a couple of off topic comments which really aren't so off-topic have a bit of opinion about countries. While talking why Germany lost, anyone can say that Germany was more less racist than this country and so on. These comments come and go as no one pick that part and carry on on topic discussions.

But an honest and faithful white slave like you got offended and went on trying to discover some "moral correctness" of your masters which doesn't exist. Allies were as fascists and racists as Nazis. So, it became a struggle to prove who was more racist.
It didn't help your point (as if you had any) at all unfortunately.
 

asianobserve

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
12,846
Likes
8,558
Country flag
This stupid argument is as good as and you are lynching negroes.

Untouchability and caste discrimination are limited to remote areas and will collapse from there too. Both Indian nationalists and Hindu nationalists (who follow Dharma), don't advocate for discrimination.

Again, unlike USA which was built by white intruders on corpses of natives on the idea of white supermacy, India is a succession of old settlements.
The founding fathers of USA, likes of Washington and Jefferson who are sold as anti slavery were hardcore white supremacists and disgusted blacks.

Western racism is institutionalized, was base of foundation of their countries unlike India where it arose within societies with superstitions and eventually collapsed with time in various forms.
Now that's funny. It's okay if discrimination developed over thousands of years. It's even okay to continue it up to now because well nobody legislated it (it's actually against Indian Constitution)... Wow!
 

Articles

Top