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German recession will be sharper than expected: Ifo
 

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German economy bids goodbye to years of plenty
German economy bids goodbye to years of plenty

BERLIN: On his many visits to semiconductor factories and electric car plants, Germany's Chancellor Olaf Scholz bangs the drum for an economy at the forefront of an industrial transformation.
But the picture painted by business leaders and experts is less rosy, predicting hard times to come for Europe's largest economy.
Having dipped into recession at the beginning of the year, Germany looks set to finish the year in the red -- and at the back of the pack among its eurozone competitors.
The government is the only one left still predicting GDP will grow this year, while the main economic institutes and the IMF are looking at a drop of 0.2 to 0.4 percent.
Soaring inflation, painful interest rate rises, a sluggish recovery in its key export market China, and high energy costs are all weighing on activity.
The malaise might be more than temporary, some analysts warn.
"We currently see the country faced by a growing mountain of challenges," said Siegfried Russwurm, head of the influential BDI industry lobby.
A growing number of businesses, including small and midsize companies, are working on "moving part of their activities out of Germany", Russwurm said at the BDI's annual conference.
In the newspapers, the spectre of Germany as the "sick man of Europe" is back, harking back to the period before 2000 when the country struggled to compete on international markets and faced high levels of unemployment.
Scholz, who became chancellor in late 2021, prefers to point to a different economic era.
In an interview with German media in March, he said the push to achieve climate neutrality by 2045 would bring back "levels of growth like in the 1950s and 1960s", the age of West Germany's postwar "economic miracle".
For the Social Democrat chancellor, the massive spending needed to install new wind turbines, build electric vehicles, make steel production less polluting or produce heat pumps will create a virtuous economic circle.
But the vision of a new economic golden age thanks to the transition to green energy leaves some experts sceptical.
The switchover will first of all see billions of euros sunk into "replacing the existing stock" of fossil-fuel technologies with renewable ones "with significantly elevated costs", Russwurm said.
"That will not lead to extra economic growth in the short term."
"We will only reap the reward of this investment in the distant future, when we have effectively managed to reduce greenhouse gas emissions," Timo Wollmershaeuser of the economic think-tank the Ifo institute told German media this week.
Relatively sluggish growth of less than one percent awaits Germany over the next few years, the country's main economic institutes predict.
"Growth could be significantly weaker over this decade than in the 2010s, years of supposed prosperity," said Marcel Fratzscher, head of the DIW think-tank.
The country is likewise held back by structural weaknesses that are stymying economic performance: slow bureaucracy, low levels of digitalisation and an ageing population that could lead to labour shortages.
"If the population sinks, GDP will not grow either," Wollmershaeuser said.
With the economy heavily reliant on manufacturing, Germany looks to suffer from energy costs that have risen in the wake of the war in Ukraine, even though they have fallen from their early peaks.
Russia was long the main source of gas for Germany, supplying huge volumes at relatively low prices to the country's biggest industrial groups.
"Energy costs, labour shortages, bureaucracy -- for us, producing in Germany is no longer attractive," Ingeborg Neumann, head of the German textile industry association, said at the BDI event.
 

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Seems like the Germans are not getting any mercy from their masters across the Atlantic.

Asked what came to her mind when thinking about Germany, former Chancellor Angela Merkel once said, “I think of airtight windows. No other country can build as airtight and as beautiful windows.”

With its history tainted, post-1945 Germany looked to its economy for a positive conception of itself. The goods Germany produced, such as those quality windows, allowed politicians to celebrate the country as an “export world champion.” Germany Inc. was a well-oiled capitalist-corporatist ensemble. Trade-union leaders and CEOs strategized instead of shouting at one another, and the success of German industry offered an unsullied source of pride. So did the fiscal conservatism and hawkish monetary policy that allowed the Federal Republic to master high inflation in the 1970s and ’80s better than the rest of Europe and the United States were able to.

Economic success provided Germany not only with a postwar identity but also with the power of attraction. During the Cold War, the promise of a freer, better life in the Federal Republic prompted East Germans to flee the Communist German Democratic Republic. When they toppled the Berlin Wall in November 1989, East Berliners first stormed Kurfürstendamm, the shopping street and temple of capitalism they had fantasized about but had never gotten to see. German leaders relied on the country’s economic might to power reunification, co-build the European Union, and welcome Syrians escaping civil war in 2015.
Germany's power surplus has turned its head overnight; their coal plants are now belching unimaginable levels of pollution in the air with their nuclear power all shut down. And the Germans are busy debating about centre-right parties willing to work with far-right parties to gain power.

The sheer wokeness in Germany would take countries like the US to town.
 

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German ruling govt "thinking" about banning right-wing Alternative Feur Deutschland - AfD party as it soars second backed party in the polls!
TALK ABOUT DEMONCRACY IN DANGER REEEEEEEE, HA!

@Indx TechStyle @shade @Trial By Fire @nongaddarliberal @Azaad @Sanglamorre @SKC @FalconSlayers @Tshering22 and all

These bhadwa krauts who doesn't let a single chance to go to lecture us, are now going full anti-democratic as the ruling party-coalition fears rise of a right-wing bloc there.

Next time these bhadwa barbarianchods try to lecture us about lokatantra khatre me hai tumhara just slap this on their fuckin faces!


Germany considers ban on far-Right AfD
Call to 'defend democracy' as party surges to 21pc in opinion polls

source - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/13/afd-party-ban-germany-far-right-extremists/
archive - https://archive.vn/WQh0r

ByJames Jackson LODZ13 August 2023 • 3:18pm

Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla, co-chairmen of Alternative for Germany

Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla, co-chairmen of Alternative for Germany CREDIT: Klaus-Dietmar Gabbert/dpa via AP

Germany is debating whether to ban the far-Right Alternative for Germany (AfD) as the party surges to 21 per cent in the polls, amid warnings from intelligence officials that its members are becoming increasingly extreme.

Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the German president, warned in a speech to the country’s domestic intelligence agency that “we all have it in our hands to put those who despise our democracy in their place”.
His speech at the castle where the German post-war constitution was created has widely been seen as support for a ban after Thomas Haldenwang, the domestic spy chief, warned about growing Right-wing extremist influence in the party.

Mr Haldenwang said: “We see a considerable number of protagonists in this party that spread hate against all types of minorities here in Germany.”

It comes amid warnings of the increasing influence of Björn Höcke, the leader of the AfD in the eastern state of Thuringia.

Mr Höcke, a former history teacher, is known for his Hitler-esque language – with his allies sweeping the board for European lists at the party’s conference in Magdeburg in August.

In a rare move, the respected Der Spiegel news magazine weighed into the debate with a leader titled: “Ban the enemies of the constitution!”

It warned that “the AfD has become more and more radicalised. It’s time to defend democracy with better weapons”.

The co-leader of Olaf Scholz’s ruling Social Democrats also said a ban should be considered if the AfD is categorised as a group of “proven Right-wing extremists” by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution.

However Friedrich Merz, the leader of the Christian Democratic Union, warned that “banning parties has never actually solved political problems”.
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Meanwhile, the German Institute for Human Rights, a non-governmental organisation, declared last week that “the AfD have reached a degree of dangerousness that they can be banned according to the constitution”.

They warned in an analysis that the party is actively and methodically trying “to implement its racist and Right-wing extremist goals” and “shifting the limits of what can be said so that people can get used to their ethno-nationalist positions”.

Germany has a troubled history of parties being banned, with Otto von Bismarck, the country’s first chancellor, banning the Social Democrats for disloyalty to the Kaiser.

When the Nazis came to power, they banned all other parties.

The German Democratic Republic (East Germany) also banned other parties not affiliated with the ruling Socialist Unity Party.

The post-war German constitution, keen to avoid this authoritarian excess, made a party ban legally difficult. Attempts to ban the neo-nazi NPD party in 2003 and 2017 both failed at the highest court.
Volker Boehme-Nessler, a political scientist, said he does not believe the party meets the high legal hurdles for a ban.

He warned that a failed attempt would only give the AfD an additional boost in the election campaign, he told eastern German broadcaster MDR.

“You can’t simply ban a party that gets 20-30 per cent approval” in various states, he added.

Germans are evenly split on whether the party should be banned, with 47 per cent of the country in favour of a ban and 47 per cent against.

A ban is more popular in the west and among liberal Greens.
 

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German ruling govt "thinking" about banning right-wing Alternative Feur Deutschland - AfD party as it soars second backed party in the polls!
TALK ABOUT DEMONCRACY IN DANGER REEEEEEEE, HA!

@Indx TechStyle @shade @Trial By Fire @nongaddarliberal @Azaad @Sanglamorre @SKC @FalconSlayers @Tshering22 and all

These bhadwa krauts who doesn't let a single chance to go to lecture us, are now going full anti-democratic as the ruling party-coalition fears rise of a right-wing bloc there.

Next time these bhadwa barbarianchods try to lecture us about lokatantra khatre me hai tumhara just slap this on their fuckin faces!


Germany considers ban on far-Right AfD
Call to 'defend democracy' as party surges to 21pc in opinion polls

source - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/13/afd-party-ban-germany-far-right-extremists/
archive - https://archive.vn/WQh0r

ByJames Jackson LODZ13 August 2023 • 3:18pm

Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla, co-chairmen of Alternative for Germany

Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla, co-chairmen of Alternative for Germany CREDIT: Klaus-Dietmar Gabbert/dpa via AP

Germany is debating whether to ban the far-Right Alternative for Germany (AfD) as the party surges to 21 per cent in the polls, amid warnings from intelligence officials that its members are becoming increasingly extreme.

Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the German president, warned in a speech to the country’s domestic intelligence agency that “we all have it in our hands to put those who despise our democracy in their place”.
His speech at the castle where the German post-war constitution was created has widely been seen as support for a ban after Thomas Haldenwang, the domestic spy chief, warned about growing Right-wing extremist influence in the party.

Mr Haldenwang said: “We see a considerable number of protagonists in this party that spread hate against all types of minorities here in Germany.”

It comes amid warnings of the increasing influence of Björn Höcke, the leader of the AfD in the eastern state of Thuringia.

Mr Höcke, a former history teacher, is known for his Hitler-esque language – with his allies sweeping the board for European lists at the party’s conference in Magdeburg in August.

In a rare move, the respected Der Spiegel news magazine weighed into the debate with a leader titled: “Ban the enemies of the constitution!”

It warned that “the AfD has become more and more radicalised. It’s time to defend democracy with better weapons”.

The co-leader of Olaf Scholz’s ruling Social Democrats also said a ban should be considered if the AfD is categorised as a group of “proven Right-wing extremists” by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution.

However Friedrich Merz, the leader of the Christian Democratic Union, warned that “banning parties has never actually solved political problems”.
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Meanwhile, the German Institute for Human Rights, a non-governmental organisation, declared last week that “the AfD have reached a degree of dangerousness that they can be banned according to the constitution”.

They warned in an analysis that the party is actively and methodically trying “to implement its racist and Right-wing extremist goals” and “shifting the limits of what can be said so that people can get used to their ethno-nationalist positions”.

Germany has a troubled history of parties being banned, with Otto von Bismarck, the country’s first chancellor, banning the Social Democrats for disloyalty to the Kaiser.

When the Nazis came to power, they banned all other parties.

The German Democratic Republic (East Germany) also banned other parties not affiliated with the ruling Socialist Unity Party.

The post-war German constitution, keen to avoid this authoritarian excess, made a party ban legally difficult. Attempts to ban the neo-nazi NPD party in 2003 and 2017 both failed at the highest court.
Volker Boehme-Nessler, a political scientist, said he does not believe the party meets the high legal hurdles for a ban.

He warned that a failed attempt would only give the AfD an additional boost in the election campaign, he told eastern German broadcaster MDR.

“You can’t simply ban a party that gets 20-30 per cent approval” in various states, he added.

Germans are evenly split on whether the party should be banned, with 47 per cent of the country in favour of a ban and 47 per cent against.

A ban is more popular in the west and among liberal Greens.
This is a gross indicator of things just not going so well in the not-so uber alles Deutschland now,
'specially in last five some years starting with 2019 Covid19 things to now Russian SMO in the Donetsk PR, Luhansk PR, Zaporizhzhia etc and its subsequent consequences and ever ongoing rapefugee invasion crisis since at least 2012; even the world champion of "Berlin school of thoughts" are just seemingly going tired of all nonsense and want anything but a liberal govt; which is a bad news for globohomo wurld ordnung so they are now trying to put a ban on a very democractic party otherwise

expect some false flag operation where they can be labeled as extremists and the said ban can be put forth on official motion in their parliament, ha!
 

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German ruling govt "thinking" about banning right-wing Alternative Feur Deutschland - AfD party as it soars second backed party in the polls!
TALK ABOUT DEMONCRACY IN DANGER REEEEEEEE, HA!

@Indx TechStyle @shade @Trial By Fire @nongaddarliberal @Azaad @Sanglamorre @SKC @FalconSlayers @Tshering22 and all

These bhadwa krauts who doesn't let a single chance to go to lecture us, are now going full anti-democratic as the ruling party-coalition fears rise of a right-wing bloc there.

Next time these bhadwa barbarianchods try to lecture us about lokatantra khatre me hai tumhara just slap this on their fuckin faces!


Germany considers ban on far-Right AfD
Call to 'defend democracy' as party surges to 21pc in opinion polls

source - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/13/afd-party-ban-germany-far-right-extremists/
archive - https://archive.vn/WQh0r

ByJames Jackson LODZ13 August 2023 • 3:18pm

Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla, co-chairmen of Alternative for Germany

Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla, co-chairmen of Alternative for Germany CREDIT: Klaus-Dietmar Gabbert/dpa via AP

Germany is debating whether to ban the far-Right Alternative for Germany (AfD) as the party surges to 21 per cent in the polls, amid warnings from intelligence officials that its members are becoming increasingly extreme.

Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the German president, warned in a speech to the country’s domestic intelligence agency that “we all have it in our hands to put those who despise our democracy in their place”.
His speech at the castle where the German post-war constitution was created has widely been seen as support for a ban after Thomas Haldenwang, the domestic spy chief, warned about growing Right-wing extremist influence in the party.

Mr Haldenwang said: “We see a considerable number of protagonists in this party that spread hate against all types of minorities here in Germany.”

It comes amid warnings of the increasing influence of Björn Höcke, the leader of the AfD in the eastern state of Thuringia.

Mr Höcke, a former history teacher, is known for his Hitler-esque language – with his allies sweeping the board for European lists at the party’s conference in Magdeburg in August.

In a rare move, the respected Der Spiegel news magazine weighed into the debate with a leader titled: “Ban the enemies of the constitution!”

It warned that “the AfD has become more and more radicalised. It’s time to defend democracy with better weapons”.

The co-leader of Olaf Scholz’s ruling Social Democrats also said a ban should be considered if the AfD is categorised as a group of “proven Right-wing extremists” by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution.

However Friedrich Merz, the leader of the Christian Democratic Union, warned that “banning parties has never actually solved political problems”.
View attachment 218163
Meanwhile, the German Institute for Human Rights, a non-governmental organisation, declared last week that “the AfD have reached a degree of dangerousness that they can be banned according to the constitution”.

They warned in an analysis that the party is actively and methodically trying “to implement its racist and Right-wing extremist goals” and “shifting the limits of what can be said so that people can get used to their ethno-nationalist positions”.

Germany has a troubled history of parties being banned, with Otto von Bismarck, the country’s first chancellor, banning the Social Democrats for disloyalty to the Kaiser.

When the Nazis came to power, they banned all other parties.

The German Democratic Republic (East Germany) also banned other parties not affiliated with the ruling Socialist Unity Party.

The post-war German constitution, keen to avoid this authoritarian excess, made a party ban legally difficult. Attempts to ban the neo-nazi NPD party in 2003 and 2017 both failed at the highest court.
Volker Boehme-Nessler, a political scientist, said he does not believe the party meets the high legal hurdles for a ban.

He warned that a failed attempt would only give the AfD an additional boost in the election campaign, he told eastern German broadcaster MDR.

“You can’t simply ban a party that gets 20-30 per cent approval” in various states, he added.

Germans are evenly split on whether the party should be banned, with 47 per cent of the country in favour of a ban and 47 per cent against.

A ban is more popular in the west and among liberal Greens.
These are God sent opportunities but neither GoI, nor the group of incels i.e. "IT Cell" & none of media r*dis are interested in hitting back at germs and giving them the taste of their own medicine.
 

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German ruling govt "thinking" about banning right-wing Alternative Feur Deutschland - AfD party as it soars second backed party in the polls!
TALK ABOUT DEMONCRACY IN DANGER REEEEEEEE, HA!

@Indx TechStyle @shade @Trial By Fire @nongaddarliberal @Azaad @Sanglamorre @SKC @FalconSlayers @Tshering22 and all

These bhadwa krauts who doesn't let a single chance to go to lecture us, are now going full anti-democratic as the ruling party-coalition fears rise of a right-wing bloc there.

Next time these bhadwa barbarianchods try to lecture us about lokatantra khatre me hai tumhara just slap this on their fuckin faces!


Germany considers ban on far-Right AfD
Call to 'defend democracy' as party surges to 21pc in opinion polls

source - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/13/afd-party-ban-germany-far-right-extremists/
archive - https://archive.vn/WQh0r

ByJames Jackson LODZ13 August 2023 • 3:18pm

Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla, co-chairmen of Alternative for Germany

Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla, co-chairmen of Alternative for Germany CREDIT: Klaus-Dietmar Gabbert/dpa via AP

Germany is debating whether to ban the far-Right Alternative for Germany (AfD) as the party surges to 21 per cent in the polls, amid warnings from intelligence officials that its members are becoming increasingly extreme.

Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the German president, warned in a speech to the country’s domestic intelligence agency that “we all have it in our hands to put those who despise our democracy in their place”.
His speech at the castle where the German post-war constitution was created has widely been seen as support for a ban after Thomas Haldenwang, the domestic spy chief, warned about growing Right-wing extremist influence in the party.

Mr Haldenwang said: “We see a considerable number of protagonists in this party that spread hate against all types of minorities here in Germany.”

It comes amid warnings of the increasing influence of Björn Höcke, the leader of the AfD in the eastern state of Thuringia.

Mr Höcke, a former history teacher, is known for his Hitler-esque language – with his allies sweeping the board for European lists at the party’s conference in Magdeburg in August.

In a rare move, the respected Der Spiegel news magazine weighed into the debate with a leader titled: “Ban the enemies of the constitution!”

It warned that “the AfD has become more and more radicalised. It’s time to defend democracy with better weapons”.

The co-leader of Olaf Scholz’s ruling Social Democrats also said a ban should be considered if the AfD is categorised as a group of “proven Right-wing extremists” by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution.

However Friedrich Merz, the leader of the Christian Democratic Union, warned that “banning parties has never actually solved political problems”.
View attachment 218163
Meanwhile, the German Institute for Human Rights, a non-governmental organisation, declared last week that “the AfD have reached a degree of dangerousness that they can be banned according to the constitution”.

They warned in an analysis that the party is actively and methodically trying “to implement its racist and Right-wing extremist goals” and “shifting the limits of what can be said so that people can get used to their ethno-nationalist positions”.

Germany has a troubled history of parties being banned, with Otto von Bismarck, the country’s first chancellor, banning the Social Democrats for disloyalty to the Kaiser.

When the Nazis came to power, they banned all other parties.

The German Democratic Republic (East Germany) also banned other parties not affiliated with the ruling Socialist Unity Party.

The post-war German constitution, keen to avoid this authoritarian excess, made a party ban legally difficult. Attempts to ban the neo-nazi NPD party in 2003 and 2017 both failed at the highest court.
Volker Boehme-Nessler, a political scientist, said he does not believe the party meets the high legal hurdles for a ban.

He warned that a failed attempt would only give the AfD an additional boost in the election campaign, he told eastern German broadcaster MDR.

“You can’t simply ban a party that gets 20-30 per cent approval” in various states, he added.

Germans are evenly split on whether the party should be banned, with 47 per cent of the country in favour of a ban and 47 per cent against.

A ban is more popular in the west and among liberal Greens.
Remember the Canadian government seizing bank account of the truckers AND THEIR RELATIVES with absolutely no due process or rule of law? And remember how that got zero criticism from the cathedral media despite being the most third world banana republic sort of action a government can take? We can expect similar silence here. And yes, this is what the liberals want in India too. They don't and never have given a fuck about democracy, rule of law, due process, fair elections, or constitutionality. These are things foisted on everyone else.
 

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