Why Germany lost WW2?

[asianobserve]

Four things that brought down Hitler's Thousand years Reich too early: 1) lack of reliable allies; 2) stuborn resistance from the bulldog Churchill; 3) entry of America in ETO for the allies; 4) Hitler's invasion of the USSR.

But if Great Britain was brought to its knees in the Battle of Britain and sued for peace with Hitler; America did not declare war on Germany instead focusing in the Pacific war and strengthening its homeland defense; then Hitler's invasion of the USSR would have gone on differently and thus the war in Europe. The US from the safety of its territory would have simply negotiated with Hitler for an accomodation.

 

[mayfair]

Hitler's invasion of USSR was doomed from start due to three factors,
1. The weather. Cold and snow killed more Reich soldiers than the Soviets.
2. Stretched supply lines- USSR is humongous, German troops had not consolidated their hold in East to ensure reliable logistics.
3. Lack of Japanese cooperation. After the disaster that was Mongolia 1939, Japanese had no intention of engaging Soviet forces in the Far East. This allowed the Soviets to relocate bulk of these fighting divisions against Germany in the West. Had Japanese maintained some pressure, Soviets would have been forced to keep these troops along Amur, thereby fielding a depleted army on the West.

Of course, Germans were eventually outgunned and outnumbered.

Op. Barbarossa was one of HItler's juvenile fantasies that none of his senior generals wanted or supported, but were forced to go along.

 

[asianobserve]

We don't need people who are against indian nationalism in this forum, maybe but for a few very qualified people who might have some knowledge to share.Otherwise i am all for the ban hammer on random paki and other accounts who derail threads.

I have gradually drifted from free speech to finally being against it as i have seen that free speech is quite overrated.

I also support Chinese efforts to promote Chinese nationalism in all their spheres of life.Good for them,they don't suffer for it.It is good that intolerance towards anti nationalism is growing in india.As a person who keeps in touch with western politics i am completely disillusioned with free speech.

If you survey history one thing that comes to fore in the discussion of the greatest wars in history that claimed millions of lives is nationalism. Particularly, the belief that our way of life is under threat and in danger of loosing out unless extreme measures are taken. I have always welvomed some nationslism but as I have consistently held, too much of cool aid will give you diabetes and collapsing organs.

 

[Armand2REP]

Germany lost WWII the moment Hitler decided to postpone taking Moscow to go South for the oil fields.

 

[hit&run]

Prove that you're an Indian or eat your keyboard?!

Anyway, if you only read and try to understand what you read more than you rant then Hitler's rightwing politics is there in that quote.

Hitler was not right-wing, and me being Indian or not doesn't hide your con act of changing the right-wing definition to fit your illiterate understanding of his Leftist Ideology.

I would have been quite kind because Progressive American history and its pimp media has shifted the Nazi and Fascist epithet towards RW by changing the History which is mainstreams in our universities these days. But when you doctored the textbook definition of RW ideology It became my duty to expose you.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Indian is a religious country which is culturally different with every thousand people changing and loves to stick with it's values and traditions. But still was under left congress for a long time. Today's India's nationalism is more driven towards achieving new heights and to establish itself. Which is comparable to freedom struggle. Every country and people want to uphold their values and culture. Doesn't matter he is from xyz state.
External affairs minister (EAM) S Jaishankar, on Friday said that nationalism is not a negative sentiment. 'There is no doubt that the world has become more nationalistic, and a lot of that nationalism is economic nationalism and cultural nationalism,'

Jaishankar
said at the

World Economic Forum
(WEF).


In India's case, nationalism is not a negative sentiment directed at the world, he said.


"India is an exception as we are more nationalistic, but at the same time, we don't see a tension between being nationalistic and being international, in the sense of engaging more with the world, so nationalism is not a negative sentiment," Jaishankar said.

If we consider muricans and NATO leftist. Then for the fact is leftist are running biggest military organization and in the name of their ideology BS they are constantly suppressing other countries.
India by true sense is standing in supporting MULTIPOLAR WORLD. LEFTIST ARE PROMOTING PROTECTIONISM? THEN WHO IS BAD OR GOOD?

 

[south block]

Hitler was an idiot who admired the United kingdom and attacked Soviets. That was his biggest blunder.

There was high possibility of Soviet attack on may 1942 on germany itself.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Hitler was an idiot who admired the United kingdom and attacked Soviets. That was his biggest blunder.

what makes you think he admired UK?? He hated UK with a passion
and wanted to annhilate them.

 

[south block]

Four things that brought down Hitler's Thousand years Reich too early: 1) lack of reliable allies; 2) stuborn resistance from the bulldog Churchill; 3) entry of America in ETO for the allies; 4) Hitler's invasion of the USSR.

But if Great Britain was brought to its knees in the Battle of Britain and sued for peace with Hitler; America did not declare war on Germany instead focusing in the Pacific war and strengthening its homeland defense; then Hitler's invasion of the USSR would have gone on differently and thus the war in Europe. The US from the safety of its territory would have simply negotiated with Hitler for an accomodation.

great points ---- Luftwaffe was humbled in battle of Britain & US entering war ultimately sealed Germany fate. Diverting troops & resources on two front ...when german reserves were needed to stop upcoming Soviet counter offensive in east . For all the ho hala of mighty Soviet reserves they were getting annihilated even when they were on offensive.

 

[south block]

people say even if Moscow was captured there was no guarantee of German Victory or Soviet surrender. ---- hitler should have fortified eastern front & avoided Stalingrad & fortified position west of volga. But no --- he wanted to humiliat Stalin.... resulting in wasting man & resources on things with no strategic significance.

 

[Peter]

what makes you thinking he admired UK?? He hated UK with a passion
and wanted to annhilate them.

He is right. Hitler loved Germanic people which included the English. Hitler's ideology was a race based one and he himself declared that the USSR invasion was a race war. You can refer Wiki.

 

[south block]

People debating whether hitler was leftist or right wing need to stop --- when it was obvious he was a right wing fascist & socialist only in name. This thread is about something else please concentrate on that.

 

[amit19]

why germany lost ww2?
ans: because Hitler was directing professional army headquarters of germany on how when where to 'attack'. If he had allowed german army to act professionally, history would have been something different.

btw, on a side note, - why india "got" independence in 1947???? well ... its because of ww2 british raj distruction by germany

 

[south block]

why germany lost ww2?
ans: because Hitler was directing professional army headquarters of germany on how when where to 'attack'. If he had allowed german army to act professionally, history would have been something different.

btw, on a side note, - why india "got" independence in 1947???? well ... its because of ww2 british raj distruction by germany

Great point --- Hitler consider himself all knowing & a great tactician when he was not & he surrounded himself with yes man --- no wonder many plotted against him.
Yes WW2 did play a role in weakening of British Raj but what really sealed British fate in subcontinent was indian navy mutiny of 1946 in my opinion.

 

[spikey360]

Anyone arguing Hitler was a right winger should immediately read Mein Kampf. In fact, reading Mein Kampf should be a prerequisite for posting in this thread.

 

[spikey360]

Great point --- Hitler consider himself all knowing & a great tactician when he was not & he surrounded himself with yes man --- no wonder many plotted against him.
Yes WW2 did play a role in weakening of British Raj but what really sealed British fate in subcontinent was indian navy mutiny of 1946 in my opinion.

Popular but worthless lie propagated by the victors. Hitler surrounded himself with very competent Generals, they brought the Allies to their knees, the whole of Europe capitulated in front of German war machine, the Wehrmacht.

 

[spikey360]

why germany lost ww2?
ans: because Hitler was directing professional army headquarters of germany on how when where to 'attack'. If he had allowed german army to act professionally, history would have been something different.

btw, on a side note, - why india "got" independence in 1947???? well ... its because of ww2 british raj distruction by germany

Partly true. At the end, he completely lost it. Instead of listening to his Generals, he listened to Angels amd Devils on his shoulders, but he never surrounded himself with Yes men, as someome had suggested in this thread.

 

[spikey360]

While being a wonderful idea in theory, Unfortunately that leads to little fucks like yourself coming and trying to derail every discussion with their american ass licking bullshit. Precisely my point Pinoy.

And I never quoted you in the first place so stop quoting me. You're a waste of my time and precious bandwidth.

He is an old Malaysian Yank, ignore him.

 

[spikey360]

Germany lost WWII the moment Hitler decided to postpone taking Moscow to go South for the oil fields.

Absolutely correct. The dash towards Baku was a strategic miscalculation of epic proportions.

 

[south block]

Popular but worthless lie propagated by the victors. Hitler surrounded himself with very competent Generals, they brought the Allies to their knees, the whole of Europe capitulated in front of German war machine, the Wehrmacht.

Yes he did & he sacked most of them .... some we killed.