Why Germany lost WW2?

Haldiram

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There was no place for hedonism yet Nazi Germany had one of the highest rates of casual relationships which may have been a hang over of the ultra liberal Weimar Republic. Hitler and Goebbels advocated strict conservative values but were womanisers themselves. Hitler himself did not marry Eva Braun but chose to live in an open relationship with her.

Strange ain't it.
Those casual relationships were actually Nazi state promoted selective breeding programs called 'Lebensborn camps' were pure German babes were breeding with German bois, and both weren't necessarily married. The kids born from these breeding factories were handed to other Germans.

Matlab enjoyment mein bhi national eugenics policy implement ho rahi hai. :troll:
 
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The fact that KKK clan was formed by members of democratic party is an oft buried knowledge to member of the radical left in US.

Coming to Hitler himself I personally believe that attacking Russia without finishing off UK was a big mistake. Obviously the Russian invasion was a race war for Hitler. The English were of Germanic origin so he was less inclined to attack them but in times of war you have to forget racial affiliation and other such nonsense. Finally not putting enough resources on the A bomb was his biggest folly. It could have atleast prevented a total collapse and unconditional surrender of Nazi Germany.
Do you know Republicans owed not even a single Black slave out of 4 million but only Democrats did?

Ku Klux Klan was a terrorist arm of the Democratic party. Now Democrats call themselves champions against Right-wing fascism. They revived KKK again and till recently Hilary Clinton and Bark Obama kept ties with its leaders and even went to one of their leader's funeral to read the eulogy.

When horrors of WWII started pouring out the fascism and Nazism became a dirty word. The crafty and cunning Democrats in order to disown their ideology of a collective state redefined the Fascism and Nazism to then stick it with Republicans. The progressives in the USA who were gaining a foothold in academia and having control of other two big megaphones of Media and Hollywood started moving the Fascism and Nazism towards Right-wing column.

The redefinition was worked out by stripping out socialism to make Nationalism a dirty word. The following stream of doctored history and tight academic hierarchy and scholarship made sure the Fascism and Nazism become an inseparable insult to Nationalists who are only conservative towards culture and economy.

Why it is Important for Indians to understand? Because the Brown sepoy who lick boots of their white masters controlling western academia exported same Ideology and historic fraud onshores to mislead masses.
 
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The fact that KKK clan was formed by members of democratic party(those defeated in the Civil War) is an oft buried knowledge to member of the radical left in US.

Coming to Hitler himself I personally believe that attacking Russia without finishing off UK was a big mistake. Obviously the Russian invasion was a race war for Hitler. The English were of Germanic origin so he was less inclined to attack them but in times of war you have to forget racial affiliation and other such nonsense. Finally not putting enough resources on the A bomb was his biggest folly. It could have atleast prevented a total collapse and unconditional surrender of Nazi Germany.
Nukes do not deter military might but the somewhat population. Japanese surrendered not because of Nuke attack but when they found out Russians and Americans combine are soon going to invade their mainlands.

The real reason for Germany's defeat was that it was not a big colonizer.
 

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Why Germany lost WW2?
Simple Answer is Battle of Britain , Stalingrad and El Alamein.
 

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These are European countries colonies.

Germany is the least occupier at that time because it entered late in the occupation market.So,Hitler wanted to OCCUPY THE OCCUPIERS,which makes rest of Europeans furious,so they started HATE PROPAGANDA against Hitler and we are simply blabbering what rest of EU powers propagated through their MEDIA.

Hitler want to become 'Genghis khan' of modern era but he failed miserably as no one ever was and ever will replicate what he did,his name is khan- Genghis khan.

It is just impossible for ONE Hitler to defeat all rest of european powers,he tried but lost wars.


PS: Filthy,coward south asian muzzies who are simply rape products of invaders stole 'Khan surname' to steal the Mongolian race and legacy.:lol:
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War and Dominance are all about deception.
 

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You are a conman.

You have intentionally misconstrued the definition of right-wing which emphasis only on natural law, economics and tradition. Social hierarchy and inequality is the result of cultural difference or competition in market economy.

German Socialists used to report Stalin and would take orders from him. Hitler called them traitors and invented the National Socialist Party to localize their allegiance. The Nazi manifesto was socialist leftist in its all 25 points. Hitler nationalized socialism to control power. He was nationalists for the sake of advancing Socialism.
Why resort to name-calling? Unhappy to find the rug pulled from under you?

Here's an excerpt of Hitler's 1923 interview by pro-Nazi writer George Sylvester Viereck:

“Socialism is the science of dealing with the common wealth. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.

Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic... We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfillment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one.”

Hitler has used Marx's idea on how to mobilize the masses (which to Hitler would be the Germanic people) against Marxism!
 

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Nukes do not deter military might but the somewhat population. Japanese surrendered not because of Nuke attack but when they found out Russians and Americans combine are soon going to invade their mainlands.

The real reason for Germany's defeat was that it was not a big colonizer.
Point noted but nukes would have still changed the outcome of the war imho. Obviously Germany managed to bite more than it could chew. As for Japan even the Americans noted that an invasion of the Japanese home island of Hokkaido would have been a costly affair. As Eisenhower notee dropping a nuke was the only option to stop escalating costs of war.

Also those who are talking about oil and its shortage if Germany could have held onto Romania or had it built more synthetic oil plants(Fischer Tropsch process) it could have still ran its war machinery.
 

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Why resort to name-calling? Unhappy to find the rug pulled from under you?

Here's an excerpt of Hitler's 1923 interview by pro-Nazi writer George Sylvester Viereck:

“Socialism is the science of dealing with the common wealth. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.

Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic... We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfillment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one.”

Hitler has used Marx's idea on how to mobilize the masses (which to Hitler would be the Germanic nation) against Marxism!
You are a conman who doctored the Right-Wing definition to fit your own words after getting called out.

I wonder if you have even read what you have quickly copied from the net.

Where is Hitler anyway attributing anything that even fits your con difition of Right-Wing?

I aready answered why he localised Socialism and Made National Socialist party answering and looking upon him, not Stalin.

Race solidarity has nothing to do with natural law, culture and market economy. He himself says that he is not internationalist which stands opposite to the tenants of market economy and private enterprise.

I wonder you even know the meaning of repudiating private property which RW leaves alone on the mercy of the market with minimum state control.

Prove that Hitler was right-wing or eat your Keyboard.
 

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Hitler has used Marx's idea on how to mobilize the masses (which to Hitler would be the Germanic people) against Marxism!
Hitler's Protestant Christianity was against the capitalism of the Ashkenazi Jews, and Russia's Orthodox Christianity was against Marxism of the Bolshevik Jews, while American Christians were against Zionist Jews.

Incidentally, the capitalist Jews of Germany and Marxist Jews of Russia and the Zionist Jews of the USA brought the world to a world war. :scared2:
 
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You are a conman who doctored the Right-Wing definition to fit your own words after getting called out.

I wonder if you have even read what you have quickly copied from the net.

Where is Hitler anyway attributing anything that even fits your con difition of Right-Wing?

I aready answered why he localised Socialism and Made National Socialist party answering and looking upon him, not Stalin.

Race solidarity has nothing to do with natural law, culture and market economy. He himself says that he is not internationalist which stands opposite to the tenants of market economy and private enterprise.

I wonder you even know the meaning of repudiating private property which RW leaves alone on the mercy of the market with minimum state control.

Prove that Hitler was right-wing or eat your Keyboard.

Prove that you're an Indian or eat your keyboard?! :bplease:

Anyway, if you only read and try to understand what you read more than you rant then Hitler's rightwing politics is there in that quote.
 

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look at what the thread topic is and what has the discussion resulted into.

this motherfucking filipino loves to spew bullshit on each thread and derail each and every discussion. That, when he's left with spare time from licking american assholes clean.
 

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look at what the thread topic is and what has the discussion resulted into.

this motherfucking filipino loves to spew bullshit on each thread and derail each and every discussion. That, when he's left with spare time from licking american assholes clean.
Manners. And learn to respect your elders.

Backread the original posts and find out who derailed this thread.
 

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Manners. And learn to respect your elders.

Backread the original posts and find out who derailed this thread.
Awwww. Now a Filipino monkey will assume to teach me manners.
Crawl back to the orifice you're coming from you little shit. If it were up to me, I would've already banned your sorry ass off to Mindanao.
 

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Awwww. Now a Filipino monkey will assume to teach me manners.
Crawl back to the orifice you're coming from you little shit. If it were up to me, I would've already banned your sorry ass off to Mindanao.
Good it were not up to you. It means this forum will continue to thrive and attract members from diverse backgrounds.
 

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Good it were not up to you. It means this forum will continue to thrive and attract members from diverse backgrounds.
While being a wonderful idea in theory, Unfortunately that leads to little fucks like yourself coming and trying to derail every discussion with their american ass licking bullshit. Precisely my point Pinoy.

And I never quoted you in the first place so stop quoting me. You're a waste of my time and precious bandwidth.
 

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While being a wonderful idea in theory, Unfortunately that leads to little fucks like yourself coming and trying to derail every discussion with their american ass licking bullshit. Precisely my point Pinoy.
Well, I'm here to balance the excessive Russian ass-licking from some nifarious characters here...
 

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They lost because Hitler was overconfident. One fatal mistake that comes to my mind is attacking Russia but then people also say Stalin was already preparing for war with Hitler. The problem for Germans was allies. They didn't have much allies. They should have occupied smaller countries with little value to other powers. So that they don't interfere ..A. whatever happens for the best...
 

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Well, I'm here to balance the excessive Russian ass-licking from some nifarious characters here...
We don't need people who are against indian nationalism in this forum, maybe but for a few very qualified people who might have some knowledge to share.Otherwise i am all for the ban hammer on random paki and other accounts who derail threads.

I have gradually drifted from free speech to finally being against it as i have seen that free speech is quite overrated.

I also support Chinese efforts to promote Chinese nationalism in all their spheres of life.Good for them,they don't suffer for it.It is good that intolerance towards anti nationalism is growing in india.As a person who keeps in touch with western politics i am completely disillusioned with free speech.
 

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Point noted but nukes would have still changed the outcome of the war imho. Obviously Germany managed to bite more than it could chew. As for Japan even the Americans noted that an invasion of the Japanese home island of Hokkaido would have been a costly affair. As Eisenhower notee dropping a nuke was the only option to stop escalating costs of war.

Also those who are talking about oil and its shortage if Germany could have held onto Romania or had it built more synthetic oil plants(Fischer Tropsch process) it could have still ran its war machinery.
The logistical, tactical and operational debate to me look quite dishonest because of the hindsight advantage and also very simplistic.

Therefore I would add more ideological debate points for member to ponder and refute.

Hitler was fighting a lost war due to fewer colonies that can replenish him with men and material and the switching on from one failed ideology to almost the same Ideology without making a radical change became deleterious.

Remember Marxist Ideas were universal, internationalist.

After WW1 the leftist Ideologues especially Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler and hundreds of others observed that prophecies of Marx which says working class will become poorer and there will be a revolution in all industrialized states like England and Germany never came to be true. On the contrary, it came in the least developed Russia and not by the proletariats but professionals, intellectuals, Lawyer and revolutionaries to topple Czarist regime.

They also observed that the French Socialist fought for France, German Socialist Fought from Germany and so and so forth. They identified Nationalism as more attractive to masses, therefore, tweaked the Idea of Socialism to National Socialism.

Stalin used the slogan Mother Russia. Musollining tweaked it to create Fascism. Hitler who saw Mussolini as his mentor and called him last Cesar tweaked it to Nationalist Socialism (Nazism). The nationalism was one of the ingredients but not exclusive ingredients per se.

The Leftist Idea remained the same but they added nationalism into the concoction. Those who have read communism in detail knows that the last stage of Communism is that there are no states left.

But they could never successfully brought about the 1st stage to its full potential.

In the background of this quick readjustment which should have been given more time to mature Hilter understood that there are no colonies left to win but he will use the magical Idea of National Socialist state and somehow it will work. One of his Nazi party member who studied American polity and history suggested him to work on segregation doctrine of Southern Democrats. The Nuremberg Laws were an exact depiction of the Southern Democratic Party's laws of segregation and slave control. Nazis simply removed Blacks and replaced it with Jews.

The overconfidence and even being an ideological sibling of Stalin Hitler went full retard and thinned himself out in vast swaths for Russian landmass in the peak of winters would me my input on his military blunder.

But an ideologically immature doctrine founded on exasperation of losing out the race of colonizing to other European state is my main reason that he never had the chance to win in the first place.
 

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