IF It was about ego, Pakistan would have broke the news that US approched them, no? So It was americans who acknowledged the fact. There is no ego involved. Pakistan never claimed that they are some important player in the region.
Wadda? Read your own post.
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I understand the Jealousy and name calling India was left behind in this High stake games.
India is no where in consulted on that level as Pakistanis were consulted and even americans acknowledged Pakistan consultations were valuable to them.
The "acknowledgement".
And I said:
India isn't known to have agreed to use its assets to protect American assets unlike Pak. If India does, US won't even need a single base in region given size of Indian armed forces.
India just doesn't need anyone and Pakistan just can't survive withoutsupport.
Basically, this is not an achievement, not for Indians for sure. If they are trolling you or making fun of you, they are just doing it as routine, they don't need to be "jealous".
"Involvement", the dilemma of 13 years old nationalists, their nation being just "engaged" is as abundant as long your nation's spans are. Indian kids had more often instances of these "involvements" and bored of this.
And in India, even that dilemma is on fall and nationalism more engaged with internal strength and
position rather than a role.
Hope it helps.
Pakistan is in survival mode.
That's exactly what I'm saying. Being a pawn is necessary for it's survival right now. For external national security.
It doesnt want its Iran border to get destabilize as well.
- A vast and middle income country like Iran isn't going to become like Iraq & Syria or face a crisis to push migrants into your border.
- You'd most obviously want Iran to get weakened enough to not make any pressure on you. It would help you out of mess of Saudi-Iran cold war and reduced threats on western border (army and terrorists are different scale of threats to focus on east), India will lose its transition routes to Central Asia, US will go for containing India after Iran to finally establishing absolute naval superiority of its allies in gulf.
So it will do whatever it takes to stop this war at all costs. they cant afford this. !
Pakistan doesn't have any assets or intentions to "stop" the war.
Your problem lies with aftermath of war. Supporting US will provide you a cover against India for another decade who is posturing to annex land from you. But will make Iran your permanent enemy and their proxies can make your country a hell.
Supporting Iran, US will turn against you for short term and India will have a free pass to hit in intermediate period without any third party intervention just like 1971.
DIdn't India do this by intervening in Srilanka and Maldives?
You aren't doing that. Not assisting or overthrowing a regime (nor you are a regional power who could do that) but avoiding taking sides and truffle along till out of your internal crises.
Pakistan will be the first country to get affected by this war.
More depends upon what's the location of war in Iran.
Only thing affecting Pakistan will be attitudes of US and Iranian regimes towards Pakistan.
So by this extension PAkistan is not a pawn
Being affected doesn't translate into being a player.
You are still looking to get used but can't choose sides.
You aren't a net security provider of your region to shoo away any foreign power. You have to be at least regional power for it, what you are not.
only in the deluded minds of this forum
Pakistan is a player only within deluded minds with frontiers of this state whose people ocassionally invent new definitions rather than simply differentitaing between using & being used.
India doesn't need anyone then why it cries to America and other countries who sell weapons to Pakistan? See just negated your point that india doesnt rely on anybody.
Objecting to foreign support never negates India's net superiority in IOR against any other country from East Africa, Middle, East, Southern Asia, Indian Ocean, Southeast Asia to Australasia. You are an idiot.
Even if they throw their full support behind Pakistan, it won't translate into India's relative weakness against any single country of these regions even in decades. Gap is too big.
Indeed no one would want their enemies being supplied with something that could cause more damage to them.
India is investing and financially supporting enemy of America.
India isn't affiliated to America or any country to support or oppose their allies. Our only official ally is Bhutan (who literally doesn't do anything). Precisely cause India isn't anyone's
pawn.
Playing or not playing is all about interests.
The only Pawn in this game is you cuz you guys are in a pickle that your investments will go down the drain if war starts.
Lose of investments isn't
definition of being pawn (it's a very small amount moreover, we're worried about route than money poured in it).
Running around every other country for help and playing the dangerous games of strongest one to save your @$$ from neighbor is precisely a pawn or a vassal state.
