US - Iran Conflict 2020

[Jatt.ak47]

HAR HAR MAHADEV

SAT SRI AKAAALLL

 

[asianobserve]

How Not to Operate a Surface-to-Air Missile Battery

“This occurred five hours after the Iranians launched ballistic missiles against the sites in Iraq, so the [surface-to-air missile] battery operators are at a high-level of alert and sensitivity,” Deputla said. “One can envision and hypothesize a situation where this target is viewed as an inbound target, but it’s really hard to figure out.”

Militaries usually follow specialized checklists to identify objects appearing on a radar screen.

“There are established procedures to achieve positive verification [and] positive identification,” Deptula said. “But remember, when you have humans involved and tensions and anxiety in a combat situation, people make mistakes.”

In 1988, the crew of the Vincennes, a U.S. Navy guided missile cruiser, mistakenly shot down an Iranian airliner flying from Tehran to Dubai. During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the U.S. military mistakenly shot down a British Tornado jet when a Patriot interceptor mistook the warplane for an anti-radiation missile. And in 2014, Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was brought down by a Russian Buk missile over Ukraine.

“In one sense [the crash in Tehran is] a bit different; in the other, it’s not,” Deptula said. “There are mistakes that are made particularly in high-pressure, high-tension situations.”

A surface-to-air missile battery operator typically tries to get positive identification of a suspicious aircraft before firing. Since all commercial airliners have a transponder that sends out unique information about that particular aircraft — known as a squawk — the missile operator should check for this info.

“You don’t have to have a radar hit for that,” Deptula said. “That is a device that actually transmits that information.”

If a plane is not transmitting a squawk, the surface-to-air missile operator should check the local flight timetable. If there’s nothing on the flight schedule, he or she should next analyze the flight characteristics of the plane.

“Is this airplane coming in at low altitude and high speed [while] heading toward a sensitive operating area,” Deptula said. “Or is it climbing out on a profile, going through medium altitude at a speed typical of an airliner…and what’s its vector.

“Any one of those three elements, you then have a good sense as to whether this is a hostile aircraft or a friendly or remains an unknown,” he said.

Each country has rules of engagement that dictate when to fire anti-aircraft missiles.

Ukraine Airlines Flight 752 was climbing to the northwest — away from Tehran— and was at 7,925 feet at a speed of 275 knots when its squawk was lost, according to flight tracking data from Flightradar24.

The Defense Intelligence Agency said in its most recent public assessment of Iran’s military said its “fielding more-capable, domestically developed SAM and radar systems to help fill gaps in its air defenses.”

A U.S. official told the New York Times that a missile from a SA-15 air defense system shot down the plane. The system can operate in autonomous mode, according to a Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance fact sheet.

A former senior defense official called the incident “totally unacceptable incompetence.” Iran’s air defenses “basically don’t clear anything, they just shoot,” the former official said.

“We really won’t know [what happened] until there’s an investigation and the people who were involved are debriefed,” Deptula said. “But I doubt we’re going to find that out anyway.”

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/...face-air-missile-battery/162361/?oref=d-river

 

[f3243007008]

China only staryed grabbing our islands after nationalist majority in the Philippine Senate voted not to renew US bases in the 1990s. Nationalists are rigid idealogues who always think they're victimized but claim they're always right. A$$holes!

So the US military was forced to leave Subic Bay naval base snd Clark air base (while Japan, Korea, UK, Germany continue to invest in US bases!) So as soon as the last US navy ship left China immediately started grabbing our islands. What did these leftisys and nationalist coalition do? Rally on the streets to scare China away! WTF!

Ironically, Duterte promised during the campsign that he will kick out Chinese from our islands first by talking then if not he will petsonally ride a jetski on a suicide Rambo assault on these Chinese fortified idlands! (He really promised it!) And yet 37 million f€cking idiot Filipino voters (40%) of those who actually voted in the election believed him. And did he ride his f$cking jetski? No! Instead, he bows fown to China despite continued landgrabbing while kash out at the West for any trivial criticism of his admin. This guy is a traitor!

Another irony? It's US, Australia, UK, Japan who are asserting the right of passage between our islamds (illegally occupied by China) and our mainland! Duterte and his generals are either wetting their balls of hreasing their pockets everytime China makes a move into our islands.

BTW, Duterte is a self-confessed Fyntanyl addict due according to him to his chronic back pains. An opioid addict is our f#cking President! F#ck!

Before the end of World War II, Vietnam, the Philippines and Malaysia were all colonies of western countries. They were not one country and had no sovereignty. But China is different. It is a sovereign country recognized by the world. As early as the Qing Dynasty, the governor of Guangdong sent warships to Xisha Islands to investigate in 1909, raised the Yellow Dragon flag and fired guns in Yongxing Island, and measured Xisha, Dongsha and Nansha Islands. When the Republic of China was founded in 1912, the border coastal and area zoning map of the Republic of China drew the boundary line of the South China Sea, officially delimited the sea area into China's territory, and announced to the world. The so-called first come first serve. In 1912, countries in the South China Sea did not even exist, let alone declare sovereignty over the South China Sea. The so-called distance never represents sovereignty. For example, geographically, those islands are very close to the Philippines, but geographically, the Philippines is also very close to China. China can't declare that the Philippines belongs to China for the reason of proximity. In view of this kind of history, the major powers in the world generally recognize China's sovereignty over the South China Sea, which at most incites the countries in the South China Sea and causes little trouble for China. However, after the founding of the people's Republic of China, the army was strong, the navy was weak, and there was no real control over the remote islands in the South China Sea. The long distance became a major problem, which gave the countries in the South China Sea the opportunity to seize a large number of Islands and reefs in the South China Sea illegally.

 

[asianobserve]

Before the end of World War II, Vietnam, the Philippines and Malaysia were all colonies of western countries. They were not one country and had no sovereignty. But China is different. It is a sovereign country recognized by the world. As early as the Qing Dynasty, the governor of Guangdong sent warships to Xisha Islands to investigate in 1909, raised the Yellow Dragon flag and fired guns in Yongxing Island, and measured Xisha, Dongsha and Nansha Islands. When the Republic of China was founded in 1912, the border coastal and area zoning map of the Republic of China drew the boundary line of the South China Sea, officially delimited the sea area into China's territory, and announced to the world. The so-called first come first serve. In 1912, countries in the South China Sea did not even exist, let alone declare sovereignty over the South China Sea. The so-called distance never represents sovereignty. For example, geographically, those islands are very close to the Philippines, but geographically, the Philippines is also very close to China. China can't declare that the Philippines belongs to China for the reason of proximity. In view of this kind of history, the major powers in the world generally recognize China's sovereignty over the South China Sea, which at most incites the countries in the South China Sea and causes little trouble for China. However, after the founding of the people's Republic of China, the army was strong, the navy was weak, and there was no real control over the remote islands in the South China Sea. The long distance became a major problem, which gave the countries in the South China Sea the opportunity to seize a large number of Islands and reefs in the South China Sea illegally.

We won already before UNCLOS! These contested islands are inside Philippine EEZ.

PH wins arbitration case over South China Sea
https://www.google.com/amp/s/global...-china-sea-arbitral-tribunal-unclos-itlos/amp

 

[Wisemarko]

You eat beef

In that case, you should hate and nuke rest of the world. Although, that would not end well for you- probably even before you start.

 

[f3243007008]

We won already before UNCLOS! These contested islands are inside Philippine EEZ.

PH wins arbitration case over South China Sea
https://www.google.com/amp/s/global...-china-sea-arbitral-tribunal-unclos-itlos/amp

https://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/trad/china/2016/07/160714_south_china_sea_weibo_un_icj_pca
Permanent Court of arbitration is not an organization of the United Nations



In a statement on its website, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) said that the award of the South China Sea arbitration case was made by a special arbitral tribunal under the secretary service of the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA). As a completely different body, the International Court of justice has never been involved in the case.
The International Court of justice is the main judicial organ of the United Nations, established under the Charter of the United Nations and located in the Peace Palace in the Hague, the Netherlands, according to a statement on the official microblog of the United Nations on Wednesday.

 

[f3243007008]

We won already before UNCLOS! These contested islands are inside Philippine EEZ.

PH wins arbitration case over South China Sea
https://www.google.com/amp/s/global...-china-sea-arbitral-tribunal-unclos-itlos/amp

This news is from the local news of the Philippines

 

[HindaviSwarajya]

Cowards are those who attack in night time and miss their targets. From Bluster to Whimper. Al-Bakistan forewarned the entire world They are going to Retaliate. And Retaliated in the broad day light in next 24 hours. Trump that example of retaliation or bring any modern day example which trumps that.

Al Bakistan Retaliation struck fear in such a way It caused Fratricide at the rival camp. This is the way. As Mandalorain would say.

I know this will derail the thread but wanted to reply once.

Do you think we will come 80+ kms in your territory and leave without hitting the targets. See the flip flops of ispr . The trees were hit by your jets only to show nothing happened and there is no human population. Why it took 46 days for a guided toor of balakot that too you showed madrassa not the real target.

You just came lear loc and ran back. You lost f16 in the process and got lucky with one vintage mig 21. Still ask why you were forced to release abhinandan in a day or 2. Even your missle pics shared by ispr proved missiles fired.

Proofs of f16 going down

https://theprint.in/defence/8-piece...nandan-shot-down-a-pakistani-f-16/278752/?amp

 

[Roshan]

So If India mediates or give advice to De-escalate Internation issues, India is playing its bigger role

Pakistan do the same, It is spreading its legs for someone else cause and war.


I cant help but observe a very big irony and delusion staring right infront of me. If INDIA does the same, it is good, If Pakistan does the same. It is a whore.

Mate This is what you call a hypocrisy and oxymoron contradictions. You just contradict yourself.

Pakistan bombed 6 of your locations. If you want I can name those 6 location exactly. What was india response? They backed down and never retaliated. This is what you call Owning the escalation ladder. Deter your Enemy with a stronger response.

Come out of your delusions and stop drinking theat kool aid BJP selling you and ask your own government and airforce about the shortcomings which let PAF own that 27 FEB day.

Where was india or pakistan asked to mediate here? you are just milking nothing to make something out of it. this issue is not india's- or pakistan's - internal issue so at most all we can do is just wait and see what happens and make the right moves. OTOH you have previous for bending over backwards and prostituting yourself for someone else's war just so it might benefit you and you think you were involved in 'deescalating' and having a say in the issue. and yes you would absolutely have done it here if shit were to hit the fan because it is your economical and existential lifeline. all a matter of interpreting a situation i suppose and whatever helps you sleep better at night. I'm sure in some lala land Bajwa gave advise to USA when and how to bomb Suleimani if you are crowing about how USA 'sought our counsel'.
and i don't know where you took the straw man out from that anyone claimed India is involved in telling someone how to deal with their own matters? you waded in here and claimed some non-existent win because of your inferiority complex that Pakistan were 'consulted' when nothing of the sort happened and you are beating your chest for it. We have seen how you have been treated by your own ummah chumma sorts recently anyway so this blustering over bullshit is not fooling anyone. It is precisely why you have no credibility in international forums even among muslim nations.

Go learn what contradiction and oxymoron mean if you are not too intellectually challenged because of genetic issues and what its relevance is here. Else just take your verbal diarrhoea based off of events that never happened and their inferences and stick it where the sun doesn't shine. No one has said anything contradictory here because unlike you we are not looking for any random reason to make ourselves feel important or pat ourselves on the back for bupkis.

and yes we all know how Pakistan bombed us and showed their roohani taakat on 27th feb. After as per you not even crossing LOC and then just showing ' what we can also do but did not do' because we are a responsible nation which values civvi lives. Sure we all buy that. We don't deify the equivalent of the DG ISPR here or buy whatever the propaganda machinery here says unlike you madarsachaaps who only exist to be beguiled and taken in by your establishment. all the evidence is there for what happened that day and the lies from your side too. Kool aid sort of jibe is not befitting of a bunch of people who only ever know what the isi propaganda machinery tells them when they don't toss around other hollow platitudes at others.

Like i said people are free to assume whatever helps them sleep at nights, there is 70 years worth of evidence of just that.

 

[Jatt.ak47]

In that case, you should hate and nuke rest of the world. Although, that would not end well for you- probably even before you start.

You could just stop being disgustingly Hinduphobic

https://reawakening2074.blogspot.com/2018/05/the-sin-of-beef-what-bovine-really-is.html

Considering all ancient peoples Rome, Egypt, Persia respected cows||

US per capita beef consumption is down almost 50% since the 1970s.
If you listen/side with us you can at least drink milk and eat goat.

Otherwise, sorry to tell you this (proly White Boi) those Leftist Jews or whatever crazies are in charge, are gonna force you to eat insects while watching inter-racial sex with your relatives||

Those who fight against Dharma, always end up with nothing.

:shrug:

 

[Suryavanshi]

Never thought an Indian would want to nuke US. What’s your beef with America?

Pakis are assholes yes but Americans are assholes and proud of it.

After ass blasting the entire world these Muricans are all up like " We dindu nuffin, we wuz good boyz and shiez, we wuz spreading democracy and shiez, we the best boys and sheitt."

 

[IndianHawk]

As expected,so-called WW3 ended before starting.

US killed Iranian top army General, in-return Iran killed Iranian(mostly) passengers and both are happy.

Well Canadians also died. But I guess Canadian lives have no value to anyone .

 

[Jatt.ak47]

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/data-points/#new_comments

 

[asianobserve]

https://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/trad/china/2016/07/160714_south_china_sea_weibo_un_icj_pca
Permanent Court of arbitration is not an organization of the United Nations



In a statement on its website, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) said that the award of the South China Sea arbitration case was made by a special arbitral tribunal under the secretary service of the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA). As a completely different body, the International Court of justice has never been involved in the case.
The International Court of justice is the main judicial organ of the United Nations, established under the Charter of the United Nations and located in the Peace Palace in the Hague, the Netherlands, according to a statement on the official microblog of the United Nations on Wednesday.

Questions on UNCLOS is under UNCLOS arbitral body. You're a f#cking theft and bully. Malaysia and Indonesia at least are not putting up with your land grabbings!

You're lucky you were able to buy a trsitor in Duterte. But he will not last long!

 

[IndiaRising]

Cowards are those who attack in night time and miss their targets. From Bluster to Whimper. Al-Bakistan forewarned the entire world They are going to Retaliate. And Retaliated in the broad day light in next 24 hours. Trump that example of retaliation or bring any modern day example which trumps that.

Al Bakistan Retaliation struck fear in such a way It caused Fratricide at the rival camp. This is the way. As Mandalorain would say.

lets not talk about who was afraid of fratricide more when Al Bakistan closed its airspace for 45 days because a couple of crows were hit.

When you don't have capability to fight in night-time, don't blame the other side for making full use of your deficiencies. By retaliation, you mean firing 5 AMRAAMs from D1 max and not even having the guts to cross the LoC. even with a 24 jet strike package, you couldn't prove anything, while we proved that we can target your terrorist camps 80 km away from LoC. if the same target was a frontline base targeted with the incendiary version of Spice-2000, you would be beating your chest like a deranged monkey like your Iranian biraders.


we are supposed to be scared of a nation where general lies openly on twitter about doosra Banda and then hides behind lousy claim of fog of war.

btw, you still haven't answered about Group Captain Luthra. According to you, he was the mysterious Su-30 pilot who died

 

[IndiaRising]

Lots of rants, zero substance. Why dont you ask your own Foreign minister about the role Pakistan played. Your narrow mindedness and ignorance can only be cured through enlightened knowledge provided to you by your own Foreign ministry

For your frothing and foul mouthing, it just shows that you know Pakistan took the lead and you can not do anything at all. Jealousy at it's peak.

Only a failed state can take pride in pimping itself out to the highest bidder.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Iran should buy aakash if It wants credible defence.
We can supply a few batch of these systems if they give us a good deal.

 

[desicanuk]

Who said we have a problem with this??
All beef eaters must go||



Kalay teray Salay lagde aa Maachod? Most of the racial attacks you see against Indian esp SIkh elders are done by blacks||
MOst of the robbery & rape in USA is done by them 2. Ur a liberal ******||

Like a Paki you resort to mudslinging because your syphillic sterile mind has run out of any rational thought .Now go fuck your self and crawl back in your gutter.

 

[sorcerer]

Iran’s foreign minister Javad Zarif to visit India next week
NEW DELHI : Iranian foreign minister Javad Zarif will be in New Delhi next week when India is expected to convey that peace, security and stability in the Gulf region was of importance given New Delhi’s dependence on fuel imports and the presence of about 7-8 million Indian expatriates in the region.

https://www.livemint.com/news/world...-to-visit-india-next-week-11578580649800.html

 

[here2where]

Iran’s foreign minister Javad Zarif to visit India next week
NEW DELHI : Iranian foreign minister Javad Zarif will be in New Delhi next week when India is expected to convey that peace, security and stability in the Gulf region was of importance given New Delhi’s dependence on fuel imports and the presence of about 7-8 million Indian expatriates in the region.

https://www.livemint.com/news/world...-to-visit-india-next-week-11578580649800.html

the guy is coming here for raisina dialogues event. muricans denied him a visa to attend UN sesson.