Turkish defense industry news updates

[BangaliBabu]

Okay so I will start the analysis if the TAI TFX as requested by the mokomon well accordingly to my sister the design of the aircraft emphasizes on mostly on as a weapons carry platforms as a inductor aircraft and strike aircrafts not as a air fighter air supervisory or dog fighter well the reason behind this in the engine as the Turkish design philosophy had an emphasis on that the stealth aircraft role would be of an stealth sniper not of a stealth dominator the engine they could develop or purchase could not be enough to provide enough thrust to weight ratio for to be a able dog fighter and the main role would be of mainly as I mentioned above the arcraft wing designed for an high angle of attack even it it is not meant to be a dog fighter it could be useful in a bombing role similar to the f 35 but they thought even the f 35 could have problem with its size and shape so they decided to design a aircraft with similar role with a different design philosophy with a more manurable aircraft for the BVRM tole not for close dog fight's but mostly it emphasizes is the the design gives a more prefarance to a BVRM's role as already emphasizes that they believe in a more combat to take place in the realm of BVRM's and pesb in the close proximity unlike our philosophy the aircraft has a shallow weapons bay but has enogh space to carry large bombs or missile's but a major problem that my sister reconigned was the placement of the air intake according to the current model of 1:1 full scale no DSI was shown that is good considering the layout of the air intake but some one would say it' air intake is similar to the the F 22's but it's not the shape size and placement is totally different from the f 22 air intakes and the aircraft engine is not decided this coul be a big challenge while they may have to completely re design the air intake if they changes the engine mid way as it could not be able to carry sufficient air flow to the engine well it is not meant to be a air superiority fighter accordingly to the TAI's but the sufficient flow of air is vital and while they have increased the length mig the intake from the front to the engine's which is now a necessary design element's for stealth aircraft's but their problem does not lie that much with the length of the air intake which is necessary for a stable supply of air in the intake but the layout of the front that could be a major case of concern the other part where the aircrafts lacks I would mention it later you think what is the problem with the dsi well it's the air that suck's into the intakes gets reduced so you need to create the air intake according to the size to your engine If your intake large bumps and smaller outlet compared to the dsi of f 35 to j 20's could mean low air will get at lower speed that could be the reason the tai have not designed the dsibintake for the aircraft well it ia an useful tool for stealth could be they thought that the dsi would have little effect on the stealth but the aircraft does not need to worry as it role is not meant to be agile fighter but rather as an stealth weapons carry platform but still the air intake position and the placement could hart and derail the whole aircrafts development if it ever take off from it's current place

that is one LOOOO........OOONG statement. Maybe you ought to break it down first!!!

 

[fire starter]

The final design of the TF-X which is currently undergoing wind-tunnel tests in the United Kingdom.

LMAO Turkey doesn't even have proper wind tunnel which is very basic thing to develop fighter aircraft. God knows how many foreign engineers and companies are working in this so called indegeneous programme.

 

[Steven Rogers]

The final design of the TF-X which is currently undergoing wind-tunnel tests in the United Kingdom.
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LMAO Turkey doesn't even have proper wind tunnel which is very basic thing to develop fighter aircraft. God knows how many foreign engineers and companies are working in this so called indegeneous programme.

LMAO they have shown a much bigger model in the Paris airshow,and induction was promised in the next half of the 2020s than their so called final design. Classic case of big mouth and more talk than actual work .

 

[NAMICA]

LMAO they have shown a much bigger model in the Paris airshow,and induction was promised in the next half of the 2020s than their so called final design. Classic case of big mouth and more talk than actual work .
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I heard that they are going to hire 5000 European scientists for this project. Lmao it shows that whose programme is this actually, but still they will proudly claim it their own project. These islamic countries are known for fooling whole world.

 

[NAMICA]

LMAO they have shown a much bigger model in the Paris airshow,and induction was promised in the next half of the 2020s than their so called final design. Classic case of big mouth and more talk than actual work .
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Holy fuck it's length and wingspan is even bigger than j20 and f22 and they will use just 120kn engine to power it . It is going to be under powered. Another failure in the making.

 

[NAMICA]

Another big claim they are making that they will develop 120kn engine on their own and that too within 7yrs lol.

 

[FalconSlayers]

The final design of the TF-X which is currently undergoing wind-tunnel tests in the United Kingdom.
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LMAO Turkey doesn't even have proper wind tunnel which is very basic thing to develop fighter aircraft. God knows how many foreign engineers and companies are working in this so called indegeneous programme.

It lacks DSI, what about the sensor package any idea?

 

[FalconSlayers]

Another big claim they are making that they will develop 120kn engine on their own and that too within 7yrs lol.

They usually license produce things and label them as indigenous so maybe a RollsRoyce engine local production, why are they going for 120KN engines? Maybe they are making a heavy Category aircraft.

 

[NAMICA]

They usually license produce things and label them as indigenous so maybe a RollsRoyce engine local production, why are they going for 120KN engines? Maybe they are making a heavy Category aircraft.

They produced fucking 9 engines within 6yrs. You will not believe that they have developed manik class engine within 2yrs.I am damn sure rolls Royce and some American companies are behing this bcz the company which is producing these engines is having ties with all major European and American companies. They are even defeating china in this case. Some thing is clearly wrong.

 

[FalconSlayers]

They produced fucking 9 engines within 6yrs. You will not believe that they have developed manik class engine within 2yrs.I am damn sure rolls Royce and some American companies are behing this bcz the company which is producing these engines is having ties with all major European and American companies. They are even defeating china in this case. Some thing is clearly wrong.

Biggest advantage of them being in NATO and also with Russia, we should grow closer to both as we did a good think by buying S400 now America can’t sell its aircrafts citing S400 purchase but then they’ll lose some serious market as well so they’ll now offer products at a much better value.

 

[NAMICA]

Biggest advantage of them being in NATO and also with Russia, we should grow closer to both as we did a good think by buying S400 now America can’t sell its aircrafts citing S400 purchase but then they’ll lose some serious market as well so they’ll now offer products at a much better value.

Come on bro no one is going to share critical technologies with us. china struggled a lot to build engine even after spending huge amount of money. It is ridiculous to see country like turkey developing them in God speed some thing is fishy.

 

[Steven Rogers]

I heard that they are going to hire 5000 European scientists for this project. Lmao it shows that whose programme is this actually, but still they will proudly claim it their own project. These islamic countries are known for fooling whole world.

And in the end they will get a product one generation behind what Europeans will be fielding...

 

[FalconSlayers]

Come on bro no one is going to share critical technologies with us. china struggled a lot to build engine even after spending huge amount of money. It is ridiculous to see country like turkey developing them in God speed some thing is fishy.

Lol China made JF-17 operational in 4 years, it first flew in 2003 and was inducted by PAF in 2007, similarly J-20 first flew in 2011 and became operational in 2017 just 6 years, these chinks think that the world is a fool taking decades.

 

[NAMICA]

@shiphone what's your take seems like turkey is going to takeover china in aeroengine development.

 

[shade]

Lol China made JF-17 operational in 4 years, it first flew in 2003 and was inducted by PAF in 2007, similarly J-20 first flew in 2011 and became operational in 2017 just 6 years, these chinks think that the world is a fool taking decades.

JF17 runs off Russian engines, so does the J-20, that IAI Lavi clone and the SU-27 clones they have. ching chong homemade engines are not up to scratch even now apparently.
And it's not like here that they love the phoren imports that's why they are lying or whatever.

Even with chong's money, his hackermen powered industrial espionage, arm twisting ToT agreements, Copy-Pasta R&D skills and imported phoren scientists if they cannot still do it that means that Jet engine development is no child's play.

Afterall globally only 3 companies dominate, RR, GE and P&W

 

[Arihant Roy]

The final design of the TF-X which is currently undergoing wind-tunnel tests in the United Kingdom.
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LMAO Turkey doesn't even have proper wind tunnel which is very basic thing to develop fighter aircraft. God knows how many foreign engineers and companies are working in this so called indegeneous programme.

They will soon be a classic example of a failed economy . Sooner or later they will have to run to IMF for loans. Erdogan is the worst thing to have happened to Turkey . His big ego and his Ottoman ambitions will drag Turkey to the depths of the abyss.

The lira has already deprecated against the US dollar . The forex reserves are decreasing day by day . Things are looking really great for Turkey.

I will indeed be amazed if Turkey can maintain its inventory a few years from now due to paucity of funds. Even a class 12 kid can come up with fact rich cool looking infographics which can amaze an aviation buff . But that doesn't mean that they have the financial and technical resources to actually execute such a project . Our own AMCA will be inducted at a much earlier date. As things are progressing now, I will not be amazed if AMCA gets IOC before TFX even has its first flight .


Best of luck Erdogan. Your ego is writing cheques that your countty can't cash.

 

[FalconSlayers]

They will soon be a classic example of a failed economy . Sooner or later they will have to run to IMF for loans. Erdogan is the worst thing to have happened to Turkey . His big ego and his Ottoman ambitions will drag Turkey to the depths of the abyss.

The lira has already deprecated against the US dollar . The forex reserves are decreasing day by day . Things are looking really great for Turkey.

I will indeed be amazed if Turkey can maintain its inventory a few years from now due to paucity of funds. Even a class 12 kid can come up with fact rich cool looking infographics which can amaze an aviation buff . But that doesn't mean that they have the financial and technical resources to actually execute such a project . Our own AMCA will be inducted at a much earlier date. As things are progressing now, I will not be amazed if AMCA gets IOC before TFX even has its first flight .


Best of luck Erdogan. Your ego is writing cheques that your countty can't cash.

I will always miss ataturk, such a great leader who made a great turkey, erdogandu is destroying turkey.

 

[Arihant Roy]

I will always miss ataturk, such a great leader who made a great turkey, erdogandu is destroying turkey.

And Turkey should stop associating itself with a wretched country like Pakistan. Should completely halt all collaborations.

 

[shade]

And Turkey should stop associating itself with a wretched country like Pakistan. Should completely halt all collaborations.

Why should they?
Paki is like a random dog that comes to you, follows you, licks you lovingly etc, for no reason.
So you feed it etc.
I mean it could have rabies, but chalta hai.

This was mindset of Old Turkey.
Erdogan's Turkey now puts a collar on this dog and has it as his pet officially.

 

[Sentimental Patriot]

Why should they?
Paki is like a random dog that comes to you, follows you, licks you lovingly etc, for no reason.
So you feed it etc.
I mean it could have rabies, but chalta hai.

This was mindset of Old Turkey.
Erdogan's Turkey now puts a collar on this dog and has it as his pet officially.

It's because pakis have a huge identity crisis, one day they larp as Arabs, the other day as Persians, and now as Turks.
I read somewhere that Pakistanis are the only group that identify as Muslim first over their nationality, even though stateless Muslims like Palestinians identify as Palestinians first and Muslims second.