Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[Jimih]

Biden's leftovers for the Taliban at the Kabul airport.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Clearly someone has trained them to operate Drones.

Drones are a complex form of machinery, high skills required to operate.

These drones might be flying from Pakistan operated by US from USA.

 

[Samaritan]

How? What route will our fighters take to bomb Afghanistan and come back safe? Or do you propose CM strike? India doesn't have CM that can strike that deep yet with precision. Also the flight path will be over either Pak or Iran, which would be additional headache.

Afghanistan may seem closer to us, but technically they are far away because of the borders in between. Not that the borders will be difficult to breach for the terrorists, but for Indian forces it will be difficult given the potential of bigger fall out.

it doesn't matter if you bomb PAK or AFG

 

[Srinivas_K]

Whole liberal gentleman’s club has gone quite. New Zealand Herald who promotes anti India articles on it's headers made me scroll few pages down to find something on Biden.

Guess what I read on reputed media source Assosciated Press AP article? They are doing fact check if Biden was sleeping or not during his meeting with Isreali PM. Busting a fake social media trend which most likely they themselves planted is more important than murder of Afghan children and his disgraced handover to Taliban.

West actually got trapped in their own trap of slogans like democracy, human rights and freedom.

 

[jackprince]

There is a difference in elected govt. or even dictatorship and Taliban.

the middle and lower level cadre are hot heads and trigger violence on common people any time. West cannot defend Taliban in this case.

They will make deals but support I am not sure.

A bunch of videos of Taliban barbarity on populace will put the west in an awkward position

Regarding fighter jets and helicopters operation Taliban cannot maintain an airforce.

the immediate threat to Taliban is economic depression and people’s anger.

There is a difference between iran and taliban , after the islamic revolution, mullahs didn't ban science and engineejng there .
Dont forget that under mullahdom , iran fought a bloody 8 year war with iraq and very much emerged validated

It is an assumption that Talibs can not make aircrafts operational. Unless the engines have been taken out, every spare parts can be found in black market. Pakistan, Quatar and Turkey - all of them operate most of the aircrafts that arr left with Talibs and can easily provide maintenance and even repair of the crafts.

Also there are China and Russia which can provide tech support for them.

What people don't seem to grasp is that current US regime is actually trying legitimise the Talibans. They would not mind those aircrafts getting repaired either.

 

[ezsasa]

Whole liberal gentleman’s club has gone quite. New Zealand Herald who promotes anti India articles on it's headers made me scroll few pages down to find something on Biden.

Guess what I read reputed media source Assosciated Press AP article? They are doing fact check if Biden was sleeping or not during his meeting with Isreali PM. Busting a fake social media trend which most likely they themselves planted is more important than murder of Afghan children and his disgraced handover to Taliban.

They are quite confident that they will be able to manage fallout, There was a news article a few weeks back quoting WH staff that they are confident they will be able to manage Biden’s low approval ratings.

 

[Jimih]

Taliban consider governance models, oppose Pakistan fence on Durand Line

Taliban consider governance models, oppose Pakistan fence on Durand Line - Times of India

South Asia News: The Taliban have said that they have been considering several models of governance, including an Islamic emirate, and would implement a form of gover

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[Srinivas_K]

It is an assumption that Talibs can not make aircrafts operational. Unless the engines have been taken out, every spare parts can be found in black market. Pakistan, Quatar and Turkey - all of them operate most of the aircrafts that arr left with Talibs and can easily provide maintenance and even repair of the crafts.

Also there are China and Russia which can provide tech support for them.

What people don't seem to grasp is that current US regime is actually trying legitimise the Talibans. They would not mind those aircrafts getting repaired either.

It takes close to 4 crore Indian rupees(approx) for a single spite of a fighter jet. It takes atleast 50 to 60 crore to train a pilot.

you can estimate the cost and decide if Taliban can maintain an airforce. Even if they are flying basic fighter jets like super Tucano whom are they going to target?

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

It takes close to 4 crore Indian rupees(approx) for a dingle spite of a fighter jet. It takes atleast 50 to 60 crore to train a pilot.

you can estimate the cost and decide if Taliban can maintain an airforce. Even if they are flying basic fighter jets like super Tucano whom are they going to target?

Isis boogeyman , who else or may be panjasherr guys

 

[apoorv465]

US also dropped Bpj's and helmets at Kabul.

Anas Mallick (@AnasMallick) Tweeted:
At the Kabul airports military side which now stands abandoned by the US and is in control of the Taliban and all I can say is that pretty surreal scenes here. #Afghanistan

 

[Srinivas_K]

Taliban consider governance models, oppose Pakistan fence on Durand Line

Taliban consider governance models, oppose Pakistan fence on Durand Line - Times of India

South Asia News: The Taliban have said that they have been considering several models of governance, including an Islamic emirate, and would implement a form of gover

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Offlate Taliban are trying to disassociate with Pakistan. Not sure if they actually mean it.

One thing is for sure, Pakistan will be responsible for 4 crore Afghan’s future now that the Taliban are forming govt.

Pakistan has been successfully managing their country and now they are going to govern Afghanistan with their superior system of governance and economic policies as they claim

 

[jackprince]

I think you know about HUMINT then you should not be asking about how US targets ISIS. HUMINT network takes years to cultivate once in place can be used for decades.
US is there for 20 year’s . They can buy loyalities, cultivate assets and establish a network to make sure another 9/11 will not happen.

Don't forget that the very same Humint gave US the impression that it could withdraw without having to deal with hostage situation.

Once you show signs of abandoning your humint, the intel flow gets compromised. Humint isn't machine. The human factor plays the biggest role and no amount of money or pressure or promises can get you good intel, if you have already shown your insincerity in following through. Your assets aren't stupid as they have to be smart to get and give good intel.

Especially in a protracted withdrawal process where US'es intent became very clear, I would be surprised if any asset is stupid enough to stick around till the last moment.

Do you remember what happened when Morarji Desai screwed RAW network or when Gujral stopped RAW from operating in Pakistan? It took decades again to build the intel network and most likely took Modi's ascension to get a reliable network for RAW.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Isis boogeyman , who else or may be panjasherr guys

ISIS is more like embedded in Taliban. Panjshir I think so.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Don't forget that the very same Humint gave US the impression that it could withdraw without having to deal with hostage situation.

Once you show signs of abandoning your humint, the intel flow gets compromised. Humint isn't machine. The human factor plays the biggest role and no amount of money or pressure or promises can get you good intel, if you have already shown your insincerity in following through. Your assets aren't stupid as they have to be smart to get and give good intel.

Especially in a protracted withdrawal process where US'es intent became very clear, I would be surprised if any asset is stupid enough to stick around till the last moment.

Do you remember what happened when Morarji Desai screwed RAW network or when Gujral stopped RAW from operating in Pakistan? It took decades again to build the intel network and most likely took Modi's ascension to get a reliable network for RAW.

A guy on the ground do not know if he is working for ISI or Taliban or ISIS but gives info. To the handler which in turn goes back to the highest bidder.

 

[jackprince]

A guy on the ground do not know if he is working for ISI or Taliban or ISIS but gives info. To the handler which in turn goes back to the highest bidder.

Again an assumption that the info passed on will be reliable. Especially given that the target will obviously be wiped out by an 'over the horizon' strike and will not live to counter the intel so sold.

A reliable intel network that depends on third party service is not reliable intel network.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

One thing is correct , the American man will not feel safe anywhere now.
He has seen how america left afgans in distress, the American man's trust on American government has been shaken

 

[Srinivas_K]

Again an assumption that the info passed on will be reliable. Especially given that the target will obviously be wiped out by an 'over the horizon' strike and will not live to counter the intel so sold.

A reliable intel network that depends on third party service is not reliable intel network.

They do with combinations, get the info from multiple sources for confirmation, electronic Intel, data analysis etc etc...

 

[Jimih]

These drones might be flying from Pakistan operated by US from USA.

You are right, it is being operated by USAF.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Not supporting the US theory. But here's the Ninja Bomb.

Yep but American narrative claims that other 7 kids died due to IED is wrong. The fact that it doesn't look like a major IED blast

Not whitewashing the US, but this comparison is wrong.

Military-grade explosives are not like gunpowder or flammable material (in fact opposite, they burn rather poorly), they don't detonate on contact with fire or sometimes even explosives (some do, some don't).

So the car is probably burned down on its own fuel when stuck with hellfire. The probability that the explosives inside the car will detonate on the airstrike is rather low.

Yep. That's what I'm saying that IED Blast never happened and most probably other 7 people are killed because of something else.

 

[jackprince]

It takes close to 4 crore Indian rupees(approx) for a single spite of a fighter jet. It takes atleast 50 to 60 crore to train a pilot.

you can estimate the cost and decide if Taliban can maintain an airforce. Even if they are flying basic fighter jets like super Tucano whom are they going to target?

Who is talking about fighter jets? Helicopters and propeller planes aren't fuel guzzlers and takes far less expense to train pilots in those.

But, those are force multipliers. Those can manage to even out the field against an enemy that has the same level of equipment or can cause havoc on enemies that don't have the same equipments.

Given the cost-benefit calculation which top level Talib leaders can easily compute, training and maintaining an airforce of helos, light ground attack props etc will be simply too lucrative not to be done.