Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[Srinivas_K]

You really have gone crazy!

You don't seem to comprehend that US simply wasn't left with enough ground intel to locate and strike any ISIS-K target in Kabul. It has got the same intel channels that has been feeding it BS intel since at least a month. Why else would senile Biden would say that Taliban wouldn't take over and shit? Yes, that ground level intel must have pretty powerful backer in CIA as well as in WH, but that doesn't mean those powerful backers have good intentions in their heart when it comes to fighting terrorism or even saving USA's image.

So, it is amply clear for any person that US was fed dubious intel and most likely given a false target.

Anyways, if your assumption of US becoming an angel of vengeance against ISIS-K where it crushes anybody with a link to ISIS-K mercilessly, tell me how come Haqqani is left untouched? It is well known that Haqqani network has close ties with Al Queda as well as ISIS. But obviously the superlative wisdom of US can't grasp the simple connection.

US ain't giving any message to anyone. It is just trying to save its own face and killing random people to garner points.

What a shameless breed!

There is no black and white, there is more greyish than one can imagine.

US can buy the loyalities on the ground. Taliban needs money to run the govt.

US had a deal with Taliban before withdrawal.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Just saw a video of Chinooks left in hanger where Badri team is taking over. What about that?

Only thing that is dangerous is the pistols, LMGs and M16’s which can be sold in black market. Remaining all the stuff is disabled or rendered unuseful.

 

[jackprince]

There is no black and white, there is more greyish than one can imagine.

US can buy the loyalities on the ground. Taliban needs money to run the govt.

US had a deal with Taliban before withdrawal.

That US made a secret deal with Talibs is a given. Nothing else can explain the events ensuing. However, you said US is taking out anyone connected to the IS, which meant you are confident that the strike was legitimate. How are you sure about that?

 

[jackprince]

Only thing that is dangerous is the pistols, LMGs and M16’s which can be sold in black market. Remaining all the stuff is disabled or rendered unuseful.

Like F-14 Tomcats of Iran?

 

[nWo 4 Life]

Who is going to give them engineering/tech/ground support/spares/consumable? Ain't that the reason why the Turks+Qataris would be "managing the airport"???

Simple. They just gotta take out their phones and, "Okay google, how do I fix a UH-60".

Honestly, they can't do it on their own. But they do have a whole country under control with china and Iran ready to deal with them. They could just pay money for mechanics resources.

 

[Jimih]

Just saw a video of Chinooks left in hanger where Badri team is taking over. What about that?

Simple. Just taking over.

US forces left many helos and aircrafts inoperable.

 

[Srinivas_K]

That US made a secret deal with Talibs are a given. Nothing else can explain the events ensuing. However, you said US is taking out anyone connected to the IS, which meant you are confident that the strike was legitimate. How are you sure about that?

I talked about messaging not the actual things happened on the ground.

In Afghanistan, morning a guy can vote, evening he can become Taliban and at night the same guy wears isis flag.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Like F-14 Tomcats of Iran?

Modern Helicopters and fighter jets require expensive maintenance, spare parts. Taliban cannot maintain them even if they are operable.

most of the vehicles left by USA are bugged anyway. They can hear and point the location if they want to target.

 

[jackprince]

I talked about messaging not the actual things happened on the ground.

In Afghanistan, morning a guy can vote, evening he can become Taliban and at night the same guy wears isis flag.

You didn't answer the core question. How can US take on IS when they have lost alk their intel network in Afghanistan. At least, the authentic and reliable ones.

It takes years to create an extensive HUMINT network in any country and HUMINT is key to fighting terrorist organisation which grows organically among a hostile population. US obviously has burnt all its bridges in Afghanistan by not only abandoning everyone, but literally handing over information to the Talibs. If any reliable ones still remain undetected, I would bet that they would either lie low for a very long time or disappear from Afghanistan.

Then what does this kind of moronic messaging mean when everyone knows you can't actually Target the real threats?

 

[hit&run]

Bruno Maçães

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One day in the video-Gibbon history of the American empire this video will have a place. “They looked like American soldiers, they might be taken for American soldiers — but they were not American soldiers”

 

[ezsasa]

Modern Helicopters and fighter jets require expensive maintenance, spare parts. Taliban cannot maintain them even if they are operable.

most of the vehicles left by USA are bugged anyway. They can hear and point the location if they want to target.

ideally yes.
But as things stand today, we shouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing opeds in NYT & WaPo suggesting WH should give aid to taliban govt to support them in “taliban’s” war on terror against ISIS-K. Taliban anyway has access to qatar and turkey for spare parts and technicians

basing this on murican media desperately projecting ISIS-K as the new big bad wolf, over the past week.

essentially CIA’s Pakistan playbook might repeat itself.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

You really have gone crazy!

You don't seem to comprehend that US simply wasn't left with enough ground intel to locate and strike any ISIS-K target in Kabul. It has got the same intel channels that has been feeding it BS intel since at least a month. Why else would senile Biden would say that Taliban wouldn't take over and shit? Yes, that ground level intel must have pretty powerful backer in CIA as well as in WH, but that doesn't mean those powerful backers have good intentions in their heart when it comes to fighting terrorism or even saving USA's image.

So, it is amply clear for any person that US was fed dubious intel and most likely given a false target.

Anyways, if your assumption of US becoming an angel of vengeance against ISIS-K where it crushes anybody with a link to ISIS-K mercilessly, tell me how come Haqqani is left untouched? It is well known that Haqqani network has close ties with Al Queda as well as ISIS. But obviously the superlative wisdom of US can't grasp the simple connection.

US ain't giving any message to anyone. It is just trying to save its own face and killing random people to garner points.

What a shameless breed!

 

[nWo 4 Life]

ideally yes.
But as things stand today, we shouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing opeds in NYT & WaPo suggesting WH should give aid to taliban govt to support them in “taliban’s” war on terror against ISIS-K. Taliban anyway has access to qatar and turkey for spare parts and technicians

basing this on murican media desperately projecting ISIS-K as the new big bad wolf, over the past week.

essentially CIA’s Pakistan playbook might repeat itself.

Turkey, Qatar, Iran and China amongst others will definitely help them. Though the money to maintain these kind of aircraft clears 4 billion for Americans alone. Let’s see if China or Iran will give them that kind of money.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Like F-14 Tomcats of Iran?

There is a difference between iran and taliban , after the islamic revolution, mullahs didn't ban science and engineejng there .
Dont forget that under mullahdom , iran fought a bloody 8 year war with iraq and very much emerged validated

 

[nWo 4 Life]

Interestingly, Kabul reports that American MQ-9 Reaper UAVs have been spotted in the airspace of the capital today.

 

[Srinivas_K]

ideally yes.
But as things stand today, we shouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing opeds in NYT & WaPo suggesting WH should give aid to taliban govt to support them in “taliban’s” war on terror against ISIS-K. Taliban anyway has access to qatar and turkey for spare parts and technicians

basing this on murican media desperately projecting ISIS-K as the new big bad wolf, over the past week.

essentially CIA’s Pakistan playbook might repeat itself.

There is a difference in elected govt. or even dictatorship and Taliban.

the middle and lower level cadre are hot heads and trigger violence on common people any time. West cannot defend Taliban in this case.

They will make deals but support I am not sure.

A bunch of videos of Taliban barbarity on populace will put the west in an awkward position

Regarding fighter jets and helicopters operation Taliban cannot maintain an airforce.

the immediate threat to Taliban is economic depression and people’s anger.

 

[hit&run]

Whole liberal gentleman’s club has gone quite. New Zealand Herald who promotes anti India articles on it's headers made me scroll few pages down to find something on Biden.

Guess what I read on reputed media source Associate Press (AP) article? They are doing fact check if Biden was sleeping or not during his meeting with Isreali PM. Busting a fake social media trend which most likely they themselves planted is more important than murder of Afghan children and his disgraced handover to Taliban.

 

[Jimih]

ideally yes.
But as things stand today, we shouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing opeds in NYT & WaPo suggesting WH should give aid to taliban govt to support them in “taliban’s” war on terror against ISIS-K. Taliban anyway has access to qatar and turkey for spare parts and technicians

basing this on murican media desperately projecting ISIS-K as the new big bad wolf, over the past week.

essentially CIA’s Pakistan playbook might repeat itself.

Exactly that is gonna happen.

 

[Jimih]

Interestingly, Kabul reports that American MQ-9 Reaper UAVs have been spotted in the airspace of the capital today.

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Clearly someone has trained them to operate Drones.

Drones are a complex form of machinery, high skills required to operate.

 

[Srinivas_K]

You didn't answer the core question. How can US take on IS when they have lost alk their intel network in Afghanistan. At least, the authentic and reliable ones.

It takes years to create an extensive HUMINT network in any country and HUMINT is key to fighting terrorist organisation which grows organically among a hostile population. US obviously has burnt all its bridges in Afghanistan by not only abandoning everyone, but literally handing over information to the Talibs. If any reliable ones still remain undetected, I would bet that they would either lie low for a very long time or disappear from Afghanistan.

Then what does this kind of moronic messaging mean when everyone knows you can't actually Target the real threats?

I think you know about HUMINT then you should not be asking about how US targets ISIS. HUMINT network takes years to cultivate once in place can be used for decades.
US is there for 20 year’s . They can buy loyalities, cultivate assets and establish a network to make sure another 9/11 will not happen.