T-14 Armata

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The first photos of Russia's top-secret tank have appeared on the Internet. Moreover, the all-new T-14 Armata tanks were captured as they were being transported by rail to a range outside Moscow ahead of the May 9 Victory Day parade on Red Square.
Even though the tanks were partially camouflaged to hide their silhouette and size, the seven-track design was clearly visible.
 

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This is not fiction. It is tanks produce coverage and a break through fortified, not as rare a tank duel. In the front projection tank almost frightening contact with ATGMs.?he tank should only be fought with tanks or other large gun emplacements, and support combat vehicle or heavy IFV with tank hazardous purposes.
Of course, I agree tank is irreplaceable as a break through vehicle, however tank on tank scenario is more than rare. Originally, I argued your point that 30mm cannon as an addition will not burden the crew, it will just give them more tools since in almost every scenario I know tanks are pushed into urban combat. To put it simple, I more or less agree on point save for one: adding a high-elevation heavy anti infantry weapon will burden the crew.

Here is a piece of discussion, I can't translate it right now, so can only give a link in Russian:
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The main problem is "30mm cannons are insufficient".
Read it. Good article but IMHO misses on a few things.

Yes, there is a lot of talk about 57mm cannon and yes it is surely much better at anti infantry role. It does combine best of 2 worlds, playing medium between 30mm (rapid fire) and 100mm(destructive, variety of charges), I realize that but there is little talk of drawbacks. For example, ammo supply, turret rotation speed and so on. Let me elaborate what argue in short:

30mm ammo is rather common thing in RA, something that people often oversee. Its used on AA platforms (Tunguska, Pantsir), both fighters and strike aircraft (gsh 30mm), helicopters, BMPs, BMD, BTR... So yea, quite common is understatement so supplying ammo is no logistical nightmare. on 57mm side, not so much.

Turret on BMPT, rotates quite fast, has excellent elevation/depression and has 2 rapid fire 30mm autocannons. Bear in mind were talking about anti personel weapons here, and its use is to protect MBT (heavy hitter) from infantry (not from other armor). 2a42 is a rapid fire weapon capable delivering similar rate of fire (up to 800 IIRC) as assault rifle while delivering whole ~400g of fragmenting projectile on target. That is, how to put it... More than sufficient for anti infantry use.

I stand behind my statement that dual 2a42 turret on BMPT is a very very nasty piece of machine and that its quite adequate for its designated targets. Mind you, not original BMPT with grenade lauchers but bmpt-72.

Now t-14 changes the game a bit but as usual having its own 30mm, well have to wait and see.
 

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Of course, I agree tank is irreplaceable as a break through vehicle, however tank on tank scenario is more than rare. Originally, I argued your point that 30mm cannon as an addition will not burden the crew, it will just give them more tools since in almost every scenario I know tanks are pushed into urban combat. To put it simple, I more or less agree on point save for one: adding a high-elevation heavy anti infantry weapon will burden the crew.
Mountain should be your tank. Platform "Armata" can be the same, but have different weapons. But it should not be the МВТ. Of course, anti-aircraft automatic gun (T-72M2 Moderna) is more efficient than a machine gun.
 

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Putin's New 'Wunderwaffe': The World's Deadliest Tank?

Russia will display its newest tank during the Victory Day Parade in Moscow's Red Square on May 9 this year. 20 units of the world's first series-produced third generation main battle tank, designated T-14 and based upon the new "Armata" universal chassis system, have recently been delivered to the Russian Armed Forces for training purposes.

By 2020, Uralvagonzavod (UVZ), the largest main battle tank manufacturer in the world, plans to produce 2,300 T-14 Armata models. According to media reports, large deliveries of the tank (around 500 per year) will start in 2017. In total, the Russian Land Forces are scheduled to receive a batch of 32 Armata main battle tanks this year.

The Russian military intends to replace 70 percent of its tank corps with the new tracked vehicle, replacing the older T-72 and T-90 main battle tanks – both of which were also produced by UVZ. The Russian military envisions the universal chassis system as a platform for as many as 13 different tracked vehicles, including a self-propelled artillery platform, an armored military engineering vehicle, and an armored personal carrier.

What are the tank's technical specifications? According to the Foreign Military Studies Office (FSMO) based at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas:

The tank's main armament is the 2A82 125-mm smoothbore cannon, capable of firing high-powered munitions,including armor-piercing discarding sabot, guided missile, shaped-charge, and other types of munitions. The T-14 is equipped with the Chelyabinsk A-85-3A X-diesel engine capable of producing up to 1500 hp. It also has a tank information control system (TICS) that monitors all assemblies and components, diagnoses malfunctions, and controls onboard systems.

The muzzle energy of the 2A82 123-mm smoothbore cannon is greater than that of the German Leopard-2 Rheinmetall 120 mm gun, according to media reports. The tank also boasts fully automated ammunition loading and completely computerized targeting systems.

The FSMO report continues:

The T-14 tank will be equipped with an adjustable suspension capable of adapting to varying relief, terrain type, and vehicle speed, resulting in increased speed while moving in columns, as well as over rugged terrain. The suspension system will also alleviate crew fatigue, while assisting the fire control system to deliver accurate fire while on the move.

The article also notes that, "nlike previous Soviet/Russian vehicles, crew safety (survivability) and comfort appear to be a concern. The crew is in an armored capsule that is somewhat roomy compared to other Soviet/Russian tanks."

According to RT, "the tank's turret will also carry a 30 mm sub-caliber ranging gun to deal with various targets, including low-flying aerial targets, such as attack planes and helicopters. A 12.5 mm turret-mounted heavy machine gun is reportedly capable of taking out incoming projectiles, such as anti-tank missiles. It's capable of neutralizing shells approaching at speeds of up to 3,000 meters per second."

What makes Russia's new main battle tank so special?

First, the active defense system deserves special attention. It is an individual anti-missile and anti-projectile tank defense system, supposedly capable of intercepting any type of anti-tank ammunition.

"It defends the vehicle from strikes, including those from the air. Thus, even the most modern Apache helicopter will not have a 100 percent chance of destroying a T-14 with its missiles. Active defense is situated along the entire perimeter of the turret at various levels, which ensures complete protection of the tank's most important elements," according to the FSMO report.

Second, the location of the crew is also quite unique for a Russian tank (as is the vehicles unmanned remotely controlled turret):

The crew of three men is located in an armored capsule in the forward portion of the hull. According to the specialists, the forward projection has multilayered, combined armor protection which can withstand a direct hit of any type of rounds which exist today, [including] sub-caliber and cumulative rounds.


The German weekly Der Stern notes about the T-14 Armata:

An absolutely new main battle tank is certainly not something most of the world's exiting armies can boast about. The German Leopard-2 tank was developed 35 years ago, just like the American M1 Abrams. The existing versions of the western tanks feature many improvements, but the basic characteristics do not differ much from the original. The Armata is the first genuinely new [tank] construction since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

The Foreign Military Studies Office further underlines:

In order to appreciate the real design and technological breakthrough of the Russian tank builders, a rather recent, but classified story should be remembered. It turned out that it is more difficult to design and manufacture a truly new tank than a new aircraft. Fifth-generation fighters are already flying, but only second-generation tanks are in the inventories throughout the entire world. So the Armata will become the first series-produced third-generation tank (although there are those who will dare to list it as fifth generation).

Of course, all of these reports have to be taken with a grain of salt, and until the tank has been thoroughly examined in action, we will know very little about its genuine capabilities.

Putin's New ‘Wunderwaffe’: The World's Deadliest Tank? | The Diplomat
 

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The New Russian T-14 Armata Tank Broke Down at a Parade Rehearsal



The new Russian mysterious "Š T-14 Armata tank broke down at an rehearsal in preparation for the May 9 Victory Day Parade. The parade in Red Square commemorates the end of World War II, and is often where the Kremlin publicly unveils its latest military hardware.

As the high-ranking source familiar with the situation, because of problems with the control system of the parade rehearsal frustrated at least twice. "This is what took place on the report. The minutes recorded two control system failure of transmission units, problems with position sensors, but non-critical. To the transmission is all that is between the engine and the drive wheel, "- said the source.

The T-14 weighs around 50 tons and has a 1,500-horsepower gas turbine engine. The tank's three-man crew operates the vehicle and its weapons from a capsule in the front. It doesn't lack for protection"Š—"Špacking both composite and reactive armor.

The Russian army wants to build around 2,300 T-14s by 2020, equipping up to 70 percent of its tank fleet with the new model. The tanks would replace the T-72 and most T-90s.
The new Russian T-14 Armata tank broke down at an parade rehearsal | Defence blog
 

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The new Russian mysterious "Š T-14 Armata tank broke down at an rehearsal in preparation for the May 9 Victory Day Parade. The parade in Red Square commemorates the end of World War II, and is often where the Kremlin publicly unveils its latest military hardware.

As the high-ranking source familiar with the situation, because of problems with the control system of the parade rehearsal frustrated at least twice. "This is what took place on the report. The minutes recorded two control system failure of transmission units, problems with position sensors, but non-critical. To the transmission is all that is between the engine and the drive wheel, "- said the source.

The T-14 weighs around 50 tons and has a 1,500-horsepower gas turbine engine. The tank's three-man crew operates the vehicle and its weapons from a capsule in the front. It doesn't lack for protection"Š—"Špacking both composite and reactive armor.

The Russian army wants to build around 2,300 T-14s by 2020, equipping up to 70 percent of its tank fleet with the new model. The tanks would replace the T-72 and most T-90s.
It will not have gas turbine engine, its weight is still a matter of speculation... Source does not seem reliable, little of what is known about tank they got wrong.
 

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With side skirt it looks much better ..... I wonder how the turret looks like always covered.

Any news on the 2A82 gun capability on Armata as well as any new ammo if developed for it ?
 

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The Russian Defense Ministry has published inaugural photographs of prospective military hardware to be commissioned in the upcoming years. The ministry has promised to demonstrate the hardware in the parade dedicated to the 70th anniversary of the victory in WWII.

Information about the prospective vehicles and their photos were posted on the official website in the section devoted to the V-Day parade. They include a photograph of the T-14 main battle tank and the armored personnel carrier built on an integrated heavy tracked platform Armata.



Both types will be represented by ten vehicles each in a mechanized column of the May 9 V-Day parade in Moscow.

"The tank mounted on the Armata platform will be the main battle tank of the Russian Ground Forces boasting brand new performance characteristics and a new ammunition feed system," says a caption under the photo.

As to the armored personnel carrier mounted on the same platform, "this unified heavy tracked platform has completely new performance characteristics, a new ammunition feed system, and separated crew and ammunition compartments," it said.

Uralvagonzavod Corporation started to develop the heavy tracked platform Armata in 2009 for a main battle tank, a heavy infantry combat vehicle, a combat tank support vehicle, an armored recovery and repair vehicle, a chassis for self-propelled artillery guns, etc.

The website also posted photos of other prospective vehicles, such as an armored personnel carrier on the Kurganets-25 platform which would be tested in the near future. It was reported earlier that outdated and poorly protected infantry combat vehicles BMP-1 and BMP-2 and armored personnel carriers BTR-70 and BTR-80 will be replaced by new-generation armored vehicles mounted on Kurganets-25 and Bumerang platforms. In all, the Russian Ground Forces will procure over 11,000 pieces of new and modernized armored vehicles before 2020.

Russia's Top Secret Tank Revealed: Defense Ministry Posts Photo Of T-14 Armata



Всероссийская карта Парадов Победы 2015. Москва
 

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All is true except for this sentence.

In all, the Russian Ground Forces will procure over 11,000 pieces of new and modernized armored vehicles before 2020.
It will take one or two or maybe even three years to test this new platforms, and then build around 50-200 of each type per year. No 11,000 units in 5 years, that simply cannot be.
 

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How much is approx weight of Armata Tank ?

Considering there is little common between Armata and T's series it will be big logistics over head , Also I read russian railways have limitation in transporting heavy tanks not sure if that is true.

I suspect Armata in small number of few 100 would remain spearhead
 

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I like the markings on the side, reminds me of these



Russian tanks are good, for over 70 years they were our armoured divisions backbone. From trophy T-34s to T-72s. Actually some T-55s are still in use for secondary duties. I widh they would make Armata NATO compatible version also, then it could be a successor for our Leo2A6s.
 

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I like the markings on the side, reminds me of these

You cannot imagine, how much shit has hit the fan, when Russian MoD introduced several variants of the new emblem of Russian Army, and said it will choose one of them.

Here is the list:



Well, actually you can try to imagine. And then multiply it by 100 times.

After all, MoD has accepted this symbol:





And the shitstorm has risen again, because the new symbol has resembled THIS:



and THIS



and also had colors of the Netherlands flag.

So MoD had slightly modified this symbol, replacing blue color with red. But still it is a crap.

Russian tanks are good, for over 70 years they were our armoured divisions backbone. From trophy T-34s to T-72s. Actually some T-55s are still in use for secondary duties. I widh they would make Armata NATO compatible version also, then it could be a successor for our Leo2A6s.
If nothing too bad happens, then in 10-years period Armata will be tested, brought to service in Russian land forces, and finally offered for export. With any modifications that the customer will wish.

But I doubt that any EU country will buy Russian arms in the near future.
 
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