Sukhoi SU-34 fighter-bomber Aircraft

Should India buy SU-34?

  • Yes India should definitely buy the SU-34

    Votes: 10 40.0%
  • No India should not buy SU-34

    Votes: 15 60.0%

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Su-34 Russian Air Forces at the Qamyshli airfield.
 

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Russia and Syria conduct first joint air patrol
the Russian side, patrols were conducted by Su-34, Su-35 aircraft and the crew of the A-50 early warning radar, from the Syrian side, MiG-23 and MiG-29 aircraft patrolled.
 

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Another twitter tweet:
the Su-34 fullback is the optimal dick sucking fighter-bomber out there and here's why

a thread -Do read this Thread on Twitter for those who use Twitter.
 

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"Ugly Duck" will lead the "Russian invasion" of #Ukraine.

This is exactly what the experts of the #American publication Military Watch think, speaking about the unique capabilities of the #Su34 fighter-bomber of the Russian Aerospace Forces.
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Video of a Russian Su-34 firing a Kh-35U missile at a ground target in Syria. The MoD released a video of a Su-34 equipped with 2 Kh-35U in Syria in 2016, which likely was its first combat use. The Kh-35 was designed as an anti-ship missile.
https://t.co/yqwdFY0mnU
 

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Fury duck.
Not fury duck but Hell duck for Sure. Look at the front of this Aircraft and you will come to know why I am calling it that way. It looks just like a Duck or more precisely like a "Platypus from my side to be honest". Just look at its front and you will come to know what I mean.
 

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I am strictly against IAF buying anymore Russian aircraft and SU 34 is included in that. We need Multi role fighters not Ground attack aircraft . SU 30MKI can carry the same amount of payload that a SU 34 can.
SU-30 MKI can carry a maximum payload of 8000 kgs (8 tons) and SU-34 can reportedly between 8000 kgs and 12000 kgs. So SU-34 Carries 50 Percent more payload as compared to the MKI.

Also SU-34 along with ground attacks can also be used in Air-To-Air role as it can use missiles like R-73 and R-27 but in a very limited way because it can't field lots of Air to Air missiles.
 

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SU-30 MKI can carry a maximum payload of 8000 kgs (8 tons) and SU-34 can reportedly between 8000 kgs and 12000 kgs. So SU-34 Carries 50 Percent more payload as compared to the MKI.

Also SU-34 along with ground attacks can also be used in Air-To-Air role as it can use missiles like R-73 and R-27 but in a very limited way because it can't field lots of Air to Air missiles.
bruh , even after the prevailing situation you're in favour of IAF purchasing SU 34s ?
 

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bruh , even after the prevailing situation you're in favour of IAF purchasing SU 34s ?
I am not saying that IAF should buy SU-34 at this point nor am I in favour of it anymore.

What I was saying above was that you were wrong that SU-30 MKI can carry the same payload as that of the SU-34.
 

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I am not saying that IAF should buy SU-34 at this point nor am I in favour of it anymore.

What I was saying above was that you were wrong that SU-30 MKI can carry the same payload as that of the SU-34.
8 and 12 tons for either of the fighters isn't it ? I bet a SU 30 with modifications can carry the same amount of payload as the SU 34 or atleast it will be close enough.
 

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8 and 12 tons for either of the fighters isn't it ? I bet a SU 30 with modifications can carry the same amount of payload as the SU 34 or atleast it will be close enough.
It doesn't matter how much you Upgrade the SU-30 MKI but unless you install some higher Thrust Engines in it, you won't be able to bring it close to the Payload capacity of a Full-fledged Fighter Bomber like SU-34.

SU-30 MKI was never designed as a fighter bomber even though it does have Capability to function as one. SU-34 will always have more payload Capacity.
 

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Only desi maal for air force , no bdeshi maal . We will be a puppet of major powers unless we indigenise our air force
 
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It doesn't matter how much you Upgrade the SU-30 MKI but unless you install some higher Thrust Engines in it, you won't be able to bring it close to the Payload capacity of a Full-fledged Fighter Bomber like SU-34.

SU-30 MKI was never designed as a fighter bomber even though it does have Capability to function as one. SU-34 will always have more payload Capacity.
Su-34 uses Saturn AL-31FM1 engine, which is literally the same one used on Su-27Sm and Su-30
Even their reference wing area are practically the same which is around 62 m2
Practically speaking, Su-34 vs Su-30 is somewhat similar to F-15E vs F-15C
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Su-34 uses Saturn AL-31FM1 engine, which is literally the same one used on Su-27Sm and Su-30
Even their reference wing area are practically the same which is around 62 m2
Practically speaking, Su-34 vs Su-30 is somewhat similar to F-15E vs F-15C
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We are not talking about any Variant of SU-30 here, we are talking Specifically about the SU-30 MKI.

SU-30 MKI uses two Lyulka-Saturn AL-31FP turbofans, each rated at 12,500 kgf (27,550 lbf) of full after-burning thrust, which enable speeds of up to Mach 2 in horizontal flight and a rate of climb of 230 m/s.

SU-34 on the other hand uses AL-31 FM1 giving the SU-34 a maximum speed of Mach 2.2+.

So hence SU-34 is still Superior to the MKI any day in terms of maximum weight Carrying capacity.
 
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We are not talking about any Variant of SU-30 here, we are talking Specifically about the SU-30 MKI.

SU-30 MKI uses two Lyulka-Saturn AL-31FP turbofans, each rated at 12,500 kgf (27,550 lbf) of full after-burning thrust, which enable speeds of up to Mach 2 in horizontal flight and a rate of climb of 230 m/s.

SU-34 on the other hand uses AL-31 FM1 giving the SU-34 a maximum speed of Mach 2.2+.

So hence SU-34 is still Superior to the MKI any day in terms of maximum weight Carrying capacity.
Yeah, if we compare su-30MKI to Su-34 then Su-34 can carry more
Though i need to add that Su-34 top speed is around Mach 1.8 actually. It is slower than other Flankers due to draggier airframe.
Nevertheless, the engine itself doesn't affect the top speed of fighter that much because for most fighters today, their top speed is limited by inlet pressure recovery.
 

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Yeah, if we compare su-30MKI to Su-34 then Su-34 can carry more
Though i need to add that Su-34 top speed is around Mach 1.8 actually. It is slower than other Flankers due to draggier airframe.
Nevertheless, the engine itself doesn't affect the top speed of fighter that much because for most fighters today, their top speed is limited by inlet pressure recovery.
Is SU-34 classified as a Flanker? As far as I know, only planes like SU-30 (i.e SU-30 MKI, SU-30 MKM etc) SU-35, SU-27 etc classify as Flankers.

Flankers tend to be quite Manouverable and SU-34 is definitely less Manouverable as Flanker jets (refer to ones I have referenced above)
 

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