"Dicey customer"
Question 1 cant IAF insure there jets form private Insurance company (excluding mig21 as no one will do that).
If you expect your point of view to have any credibility then just give us at least one example where a poor developing nation like India produced an entirely indigenous fighter of f 16/mirage 2k class in 20 years and is being used by their air forces. You can not because there are none. It goes without saying that both DRDO and HAL has their share of weaknesses and sluggishness just like any other Gov organisations but only crucifying them is a complete hogwash of reality. It is IAF ( like army ) that has a high ego and and apathy toward home made stuff. People are quick to compare India with china to down play India achievements but one should not forget everything comes at a price. Chinese didn't and wouldn't stop at anything to achieve something where as Indian genes are different. It is the sub standard engineers and technical stuffs of IAF that failed measurably , time and again in the evaluation process for most of the russian jets. May be initially it was a matter of only choice but later on Indian defense forces just fell in love with phoreign maal. What we are seeing today is just the ramification of the long nourished perversion of IAF. No other air force in the world has suffered this much peace time causalities and destruction of it's asset like Indian airforce. It only implies one thing. Either they are worthless in training or in the procurement. Both China and Pakistan use very old air crafts but are doing way better than us. We can behave like ostrich but don't think that is gonna help much. Anyway time has come for a change and it will take place very soon.
Sir, if you analyze it properly, our scientists are more concerned about money and salary and our government is concerned about giving away sufficient money for the scientists who sweat it out in R&D. But here the main focus of making the country self sufficient and self efficient is not being taken care off by either the scientists or the GoI. The Armed forces on the other hand are also playing into the hands of the foreign sellers. The Armed forces always keep rejecting the indigenous equipment made by DRDO and HAL. This is because of less quality and time delay. " WE LOST SO MANY SCIENTISTS BECAUSE OF LESS PAY SCALE AND LESS IMPORTANCE AND LESS RECOGNITION" given to them. We have to develop this condition.
By the way you and I are making the same point. You have said nothing new in the above post.
Sir, I will try to answer your each point in biref.
GoI must try and preserve our GREAT MINDS from IIT's and IISC. Even my own uncle who passed out from IISC is now in England. If only our GoI acts now can we achieve some indigenous credibility.
This is a hogwash statement, the best minds, the so called IITs and other top school folks are often just as incompetant. Plenty of uber educated fools out there. You wouldn't have the kind of unique technologies we have developed all by ourselves without some truly brilliant people working in DRDO/HAL/RDI and other agencies. GOI should find way to bring these agencies to the next gen with adequate funding, cutting red tape and finding ways to improve efficiencies. Today's success in Nirbhay and unique missiles like K-15/ Sagarika are all a testament to DRDO's capabilities.
If you got an impression that I think IITs are the hub for top brains in India then you are entirely wrong. They are mostly training some above average students (but do have some top minds as well) but when it comes to top class theoretical research there is only three places in India that is TIFR/IMSC/HRI. When I am talking about best brains I mean some one like Dr.Ashoke Sen or say Dr. Tathagata Basak Dr. Prahlad etc and not some PHD holder who stopped thinking independently some decades ago and trying to reinvent the wheel to secure his or her career. DRDO is filled with the second class researchers. If you want something mind blowing to happen in India you have motivate the top theoretical physicists and mathematicians to contribute. You may be surprised to know that 90% of the technological marvel achieved by so called engineers are fundamentally envisaged and validated by either mathematicians or the theoretical physicists. You don't pay good you don't get good. As simple as that.
I cannot agree with this. It is true that all students of IITs are not top class engineers but the majority of them are. IIT exam is one of the most toughest exams out there and it is a type of exam which you cannot get through by mugging up things. It tests your intelligence. The truth is that majority IITians go abroad after completing their degrees. Most IITians are in the USA/UK/Canada. Only a handful stay back here in India. Those who stay back opt for civil service or other lucrative private sector jobs. That means there are only a few who end up joining DRDO or other govt institutions.(except civil service)
well research is not about getting high marks in exams, its about thinking outside the box and being creative!. We are still doing good as of now, since we can import hi- tec equipment from Russia, US and Israel. But soon enough Chinese economy is going to surpass these countries, due to lack of funding and the Chinese will be the world leaders in terms of technologies. So from who are we supposed to buy hi-tech equipment then? Unless we get our R&D in shape we are going to be in trouble. We Indians rely too much on academic excellence and not on out of the box thinking. Promotions in DRDO and other research units should be based on merit and not on who is older. Younger people should be inducted on top so that they are more progressive in their concepts and in tune with the latest technologies. There should be the best management on top to oversee promotions and designing/ buying hi-tech equipt or taking a call on promotions. The IITS should be snooped and recruiting agents should monitor them for the best candidates. Some one who is really great should be hired AT ANY COST, not by offering him/her a fixed pay scale. We don't need a lot of OUT of the box thinkers, we just need a few to head different programs. If we cant get our research in shape very soon, we have no future and will have to bend over every time China plays the bully.
Well IITians can think out of the box too. I am only saying that IITians do not join govt organizations like DRDO en masse. Nearly all of them leave for foreign shores as they are not satisfied with the money they would earn here. Only a few stay back in India.
We should not call anybody second class etc. I agree with your point here.
I don't think salary is the only issue. I am certain if the government implements good policies, a lot of IITians will return to India and take up jobs here.
Nope salary is the only issue and it is the sad truth. I study engineering in JU which is a govt university and all my seniors have said that they want to go abroad due to higher pay packages,better quality of life etc.
