Sukhoi Su 30MKI

[lixun]

Again Chinese stat for KJ7?
Btw even then Tejas radar is better for MK1.
MK1a is far far better.

I can only give you a look at the data, which is China the only foreign sales of radar, has reached the level Gripen C / D, the period of rapid development of electronic technology in the world is China's rapid economic development period, China's semiconductor packaging technology It is stronger than Europe, and the wafer process is similar. China's first-generation PD radar JL10 has adopted the same technical architecture as APG66.
If you say this is wrong, can I question whether the Indian data is wrong

 

[pipebomb]

Su57 has a baffle that can block the inlet, and the inlet of su57 is slightly curved,

that is good news, means it can be ported to mki or version of it.

 

[BON PLAN]

Su57 has a baffle that can block the inlet, and the inlet of su57 is slightly curved,

If it is the same system than Mig29, only usefull for take off, not in full flight.

 

[pipebomb]

I am not wrong, the Su-27K/Su-33 had canards to improve lower speeds.

Su-27M/Su-35/Su-37 had a heavier nose thus needed canards to regain lift.

Su-30MKI is basically a Su-30 with canards using the expertise gained by Su-35/Su-27M

I heard that mki has a heavier nose, so to manage shift in center of gravity they put canards

Also su-35 doesn't have canards, so didn't get quite get your example

 

[Tang]

I can only give you a look at the data, which is China the only foreign sales of radar, has reached the level Gripen C / D, the period of rapid development of electronic technology in the world is China's rapid economic development period, China's semiconductor packaging technology It is stronger than Europe, and the wafer process is similar. China's first-generation PD radar JL10 has adopted the same technical architecture as APG66.
If you say this is wrong, can I question whether the Indian data is wrong

Nobody believes you guys,
Why would anybody believe a govt. who don't even own their dead soldiers.
First, it was zero in galwan, then 2, then 3, then 4..What is this?
Is this how govt. works?
Nobody believe you guys

 

[sorcerer]

New Weapons, Electronics Proposed in Indian Order for New Su-30MKI Jets
Our Bureau

2-3 minutes


An expected Indian order for 12 Su-30MKI fighter jets will include new weapons and electronic systems probably drawn from the Su-35, the current top of the line Russian fighter.
“The issue of supplying kits for the production of an additional batch of Su-30MKI aircraft requires some time to be worked out due to the need to include new aircraft weapons and electronic equipment in their composition,” said Denis Manturov, Russian Minister of Industry and Trade in an interview with Interfax during the ARMY-2021 in Moscow today.

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[MiG-29SMT]

I heard that mki has a heavier nose, so to manage shift in center of gravity they put canards

Also su-35 doesn't have canards, so didn't get quite get your example

The original Su-35/Su-27M with canards had a heavier nose so it was Su-34 and Su-33K.

However the exact weight of Su-35M is not known.

Weight characteristics
maximum fuel reserve in integral tanks (kg)	11,3​
maximum take-off weight (kg)	34,5​
normal take-off weight (kg)	25,3​
maximum combat payload weight (kg)	8,000 on 12 hardpoints

Су-35

Су-35

www.uacrussia.ru

If you consider the new Su-35 weighs 34.5 you rest the fuel and weapons load you get 14.9 tonnes empty weight.

I do not know if that is the true weight but remember from the 1988 Su-35/Su-27 with canards to the 1996 Su-37 and the modern Su-35S of 2008, you can guess there were some improvements perhaps it is lighter than even Su-27

 

[MiG-29SMT]

Nobody believes you guys,
Why would anybody believe a govt. who don't even own their dead soldiers.
First, it was zero in galwan, then 2, then 3, then 4..What is this?
Is this how govt. works?
Nobody believe you guys

You can see they lie, simply the J-10 was based upon Lavi but this was always denied, Su-33/J-15 they call it an original design you know they lie

 

[lixun]

The original Su-35/Su-27M with canards had a heavier nose so it was Su-34 and Su-33K.

However the exact weight of Su-35M is not known.

Weight characteristics
maximum fuel reserve in integral tanks (kg)	11,3​
maximum take-off weight (kg)	34,5​
normal take-off weight (kg)	25,3​
maximum combat payload weight (kg)	8,000 on 12 hardpoints

Су-35

Су-35

www.uacrussia.ru

If you consider the new Su-35 weighs 34.5 you rest the fuel and weapons load you get 14.9 tonnes empty weight.

I do not know if that is the true weight but remember from the 1988 Su-35/Su-27 with canards to the 1996 Su-37 and the modern Su-35S of 2008, you can guess there were some improvements perhaps it is lighter than even Su-27

This is the funniest joke I have ever heard

 

[lixun]

The original Su-35/Su-27M with canards had a heavier nose so it was Su-34 and Su-33K.

However the exact weight of Su-35M is not known.

Weight characteristics
maximum fuel reserve in integral tanks (kg)	11,3​
maximum take-off weight (kg)	34,5​
normal take-off weight (kg)	25,3​
maximum combat payload weight (kg)	8,000 on 12 hardpoints

Су-35

Су-35

www.uacrussia.ru

If you consider the new Su-35 weighs 34.5 you rest the fuel and weapons load you get 14.9 tonnes empty weight.

I do not know if that is the true weight but remember from the 1988 Su-35/Su-27 with canards to the 1996 Su-37 and the modern Su-35S of 2008, you can guess there were some improvements perhaps it is lighter than even Su-27

The Sukhoi official website has detailed weight data for the Su-30MK series,
Carrying 5270KG of fuel, 2 R-27 missiles, and 2 R-73 missiles weigh about 24900KG, minus the weight of the mounted missiles and fuel, about 18900KG,

Ранее выпускаемые самолеты

Сухой

www.sukhoi.org

The data here does not use canard wings and thrust vector nozzles, it will only be heavier if installed.

 

[lixun]

The original Su-35/Su-27M with canards had a heavier nose so it was Su-34 and Su-33K.

However the exact weight of Su-35M is not known.

Weight characteristics
maximum fuel reserve in integral tanks (kg)	11,3​
maximum take-off weight (kg)	34,5​
normal take-off weight (kg)	25,3​
maximum combat payload weight (kg)	8,000 on 12 hardpoints

Су-35

Су-35

www.uacrussia.ru

If you consider the new Su-35 weighs 34.5 you rest the fuel and weapons load you get 14.9 tonnes empty weight.

I do not know if that is the true weight but remember from the 1988 Su-35/Su-27 with canards to the 1996 Su-37 and the modern Su-35S of 2008, you can guess there were some improvements perhaps it is lighter than even Su-27

If the su35 had an empty weight of 14.5, China would buy 1,000

 

[lixun]

Nobody believes you guys,
Why would anybody believe a govt. who don't even own their dead soldiers.
First, it was zero in galwan, then 2, then 3, then 4..What is this?
Is this how govt. works?
Nobody believe you guys

Whatever you want, you can think that China is weaker than Somalia, this is your freedom,
The Chinese government only announced that four Chinese PLAs were killed in battle, the others are all rumors

 

[MiG-29SMT]

View attachment 106464
The Sukhoi official website has detailed weight data for the Su-30MK series,
Carrying 5270KG of fuel, 2 R-27 missiles, and 2 R-73 missiles weigh about 24900KG, minus the weight of the mounted missiles and fuel, about 18900KG,

Ранее выпускаемые самолеты

Сухой

www.sukhoi.org

View attachment 106465
The data here does not use canard wings and thrust vector nozzles, it will only be heavier if installed.

Su-30 is not Su-35, trying to say they weigh the same is a poor argument

 

[MiG-29SMT]

If the su35 had an empty weight of 14.5, China would buy 1,000

China always claims their Su-27 clones surpassed the Russian built, the chinabots said having J-20 never China were going to buy Su-35, but they did, will they buy 1000? well they have 400 Sukhois, some built some bought that is a complement to sukhoi

 

[lixun]

Su-30 is not Su-35, trying to say they weigh the same is a poor argument

MAKS2019 air show data, this is the exhibition board of Sukhoi Company, the empty weight of su35 is 19000kg

 

[lixun]

China always claims their Su-27 clones surpassed the Russian built, the chinabots said having J-20 never China were going to buy Su-35, but they did, will they buy 1000? well they have 400 Sukhois, some built some bought that is a complement to sukhoi

If I can get F15, F14, we will not buy su27,
If su27 meets Chinese demand, China will not only produce 80 J11A,
And the contract calls for the production of 200

 

[MiG-29SMT]

This is the funniest joke I have ever heard

please ask your friends to give you the manual of Su-35 so you proof your weight

 

[MiG-29SMT]

View attachment 106470
MAKS2019 air show data, this is the exhibition board of Sukhoi Company, the empty weight of su35 is 19000kg

show the original MAKS 2019

 

[lixun]

please ask your friends to give you the manual of Su-35 so you proof your weight

If I can get the SU35 manual, the intelligence agencies of China and Russia are fools

 

[MiG-29SMT]

If I can get the SU35 manual, the intelligence agencies of China and Russia are fools

so you are more fool because you have no data, in fact 117S do not weight a lot they weight around 1604kg, only 84kg more than Al-31F

Диаметр входа в компрессор, м
0,932
Масса сухая, кг
≤1604+2%
Время приемистости двигателя от режима малого газа до максимального боевого, с
3-5

тэги: АЛ-41Ф-1С, Двигатели,
Диаметр входа, мм
905
Сухая масса, кг
1520(+2)

тэги: АЛ-31Ф, Двигатели,

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Show the original MAKS 19 brochure to prove its weight