Sukhoi Su 30MKI

[vishnugupt]

Ah, when the US air force calls Su-30MKI better than their F-15s and F-16s. Source for the bold, please?

The Vice Chief of IAF reportedly said in SC that MKI is a generation behind from Rafale and went on to say India does not operate 4th generation planes They even said LCA 3++ generation in SC. read page 19 from original verdict of SC.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/resources/article25752325.ece/BINARY/Supreme%20Court%20judgment%20in%20Rafale%20deal%20case

later on, people objected on this statement

faulty FBW,

Not only FBW, but the IAF chief also discovered design flaws. Brilliant
Here is another gem though you didn't ask for
faulty ejection seat

Focus on Covid-19 deaths, not disease spread

www.deccanherald.com

I know you will say its paid media but the issue was so big that even Russia ambassador has to defend it openly

old generation radar, Outdated avionics...etc etc?

what should I say if you didn't hear even this ?? This happening on a daily basis on this forum who says MKI a bomb truck or Bomber. Read this whole Su-30mki washing thread from start. Air marshal Nambiar on Radar, Engines, and Avionics ( Rafale vs Su30 ) Thought he lied HAL manufactured 930 engines which are incorrect

Few more gems you didn't ask
Rafale 2.5 times better than Su-30mki: top IAF source

Rafale's range is 2.5 times more than a Sukhoi: Top IAF sources

New Delhi [India], Jan 17 (ANI): At a time when critics are questioning the operational capabilities of the Rafale combat aircraft, top IAF sources said the range of the French-origin aircraft is 2.5 more than that of the Russian Sukhoi-30."The operational capabilities of the Sukhoi-30 in terms...

www.business-standard.com

Mirage 2000, and Su-30mki belongs to between the 3rd and 4th generation and more

Why Rafale jets are important for Indian Air Force

Defence minister Rajnath Singh will be taking the delivery of the first of the 36 French-built Rafale fighter aircraft. However, the combat jet will be seen in Indian skies only in May 2020. Air Chief Marshal RKS Bhadauria had said soon after taking over as air chief on September 30 that...

www.indiatoday.in

Such malicious charge/Propaganda never encountered by IAF despite all was happening under their nose.


Post 27 Feb, IAF has literally thrown MKI to dogs. Rafale is a game changer to IAF due to meteor but the SU-30 mki became a villain for faulty R-77, Vintage age radio communication, and Not having a jammer due to IAF's own ignorance. Now the same Russian Jammer doing good, Buying SDR. Why don't IAF admit its own series of mistakes

 

[mist_consecutive]

—edit—.

 

[vishnugupt]

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Yes, because the winner day was the day before. We were defending, and we defended with equal blows. That counts as a win, no?



Did we realize our shortcomings? Yes.
Were we ill-prepared? Absolutely not. We could have decimated the whole PAF within few days if we mounted a counter-attack upon them, but our peace-loving nature won't allow! (who will win the election if we declare war, no?)

We need indigenous weapons to win the war, that is a universal truth. We know it, everyone knows it, the HAL & OFB's fat babus who take 3 hours lunch break & 2 hours tea break every day just to sit on their asses and fart knows it.

Which world are you living ??? Mig21 crashed, Pilots captured, MI 17 shot down in a friendly fire, Unable to press Mirage 2000 and Su 30MKi That too against a Piddy PAF and you are not counting it as a blow.
Sorry, I'm not that much shameless. No military will admit this as a success
Balakot move was good and I never objected nor cast any doubt. but These are two different incidents so don't mix.
It is a wrong impression that Indian politicians don't have will power for WAR but every time situation arise Armed forces fell short of equipment and go for begging. Merely uttering word like "prepared for any eventuality" doesn't make you sufficient for War. The decision of war can be taken only after a thorough evaluation from all side not by merely hearing words like "prepared for any eventuality: tells Armed forces"

 

[vishnugupt]

Not only FBW, but the IAF chief also discovered design flaws. Brilliant
Here is another gem though you didn't ask for
faulty ejection seat

correct link

IAF Chief hints at design flaw in Su-30 MKI

www.sps-aviation.com

@spikey360, please check above post

 

[mist_consecutive]

The Vice Chief of IAF reportedly said in SC that MKI is a generation behind from Rafale and went on to say India does not operate 4th generation planes They even said LCA 3++ generation in SC. read page 19 from original verdict of SC.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/resources/article25752325.ece/BINARY/Supreme%20Court%20judgment%20in%20Rafale%20deal%20case

later on, people objected on this statement


Not only FBW, but the IAF chief also discovered design flaws. Brilliant
Here is another gem though you didn't ask for
faulty ejection seat

Focus on Covid-19 deaths, not disease spread

www.deccanherald.com

I know you will say its paid media but the issue was so big that even Russia ambassador has to defend it openly


what should I say if you didn't hear even this ?? This happening on a daily basis on this forum who says MKI a bomb truck or Bomber. Read this whole Su-30mki washing thread from start. Air marshal Nambiar on Radar, Engines, and Avionics ( Rafale vs Su30 ) Thought he lied HAL manufactured 930 engines which are incorrect

Few more gems you didn't ask
Rafale 2.5 times better than Su-30mki: top IAF source

Rafale's range is 2.5 times more than a Sukhoi: Top IAF sources

New Delhi [India], Jan 17 (ANI): At a time when critics are questioning the operational capabilities of the Rafale combat aircraft, top IAF sources said the range of the French-origin aircraft is 2.5 more than that of the Russian Sukhoi-30."The operational capabilities of the Sukhoi-30 in terms...

www.business-standard.com

Mirage 2000, and Su-30mki belongs to between the 3rd and 4th generation and more

Why Rafale jets are important for Indian Air Force

Defence minister Rajnath Singh will be taking the delivery of the first of the 36 French-built Rafale fighter aircraft. However, the combat jet will be seen in Indian skies only in May 2020. Air Chief Marshal RKS Bhadauria had said soon after taking over as air chief on September 30 that...

www.indiatoday.in

Such malicious charge/Propaganda never encountered by IAF despite all was happening under their nose.


Post 27 Feb, IAF has literally thrown MKI to dogs. Rafale is a game changer to IAF due to meteor but the SU-30 mki became a villain for faulty R-77, Vintage age radio communication, and Not having a jammer due to IAF's own ignorance. Now the same Russian Jammer doing good, Buying SDR. Why don't IAF admit its own series of mistakes

The Vice Chief of IAF reportedly said in SC that MKI is a generation behind from Rafale and went on to say India does not operate 4th generation planes They even said LCA 3++ generation in SC. read page 19 from original verdict of SC.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/resources/article25752325.ece/BINARY/Supreme%20Court%20judgment%20in%20Rafale%20deal%20case

later on, people objected on this statement

Nowhere in the article states anything remotely regarding MKI being a generation behind or LCA is 3++. Did you attach a wrong article? Try again.

correct link

IAF Chief hints at design flaw in Su-30 MKI

www.sps-aviation.com

@spikey360, please check above post

From the same article - "After a flawless flight safety record spanning more than a decade since its induction into service in 1997, it was on April 30, 2009, the IAF lost its first Su-30 MKI"

The 'design flaw' that is being mentioned is of FBW, not structural design. Read the line again -
"We have identified a ‘fly-by-wire’ problem with the aircraft. It is a design issue and we have taken it up with the design agency,”

This is from 2011. This has been long corrected. Su-30s even being in large number, has a better crash-record than the Mirage-2000.

what should I say if you didn't hear even this ?? This happening on a daily basis on this forum who says MKI a bomb truck or Bomber. Read this whole Su-30mki washing thread from start. Air marshal Nambiar on Radar, Engines, and Avionics ( Rafale vs Su30 ) Thought he lied HAL manufactured 930 engines which are incorrect

Did you just waste my 40mins throwing a random video at my face? Where is it mentions that Su-30 is a bomb truck?
Sir Nambiar says about engine issues of Su-30s being not reliable. I also mentioned it in my post before.

He says radar -> we would like it to be an AESA radar, didn't ditch it to be obsolete. Half of the US Air force is flying on F-15s and F-16s inferior pulse-doppler radar, most of the Chinese air force has pulse-doppler radar. Pakistan has yet to get any aircraft with as good radar as N011M Bars PESA.

He says Avionics -> We are continuously learning and upgrading it. Nowhere he says it is outdated & inferior.

Rafale's range is 2.5 times more than a Sukhoi: Top IAF sources

New Delhi [India], Jan 17 (ANI): At a time when critics are questioning the operational capabilities of the Rafale combat aircraft, top IAF sources said the range of the French-origin aircraft is 2.5 more than that of the Russian Sukhoi-30."The operational capabilities of the Sukhoi-30 in terms...

www.business-standard.com

From the article itself -
"Explaining the combat capability and the range of the Rafale in comparison with the Sukhoi-30s, the sources said the Air Force has flown the Russian planes across the length and breadth of the country in one go and the range of Rafale is 2.5 times more than the Sukhoi."

It talks about "range", not capability. Anyway, the article is very dubious and badly written.

Mirage 2000, and Su-30mki belongs to between the 3rd and 4th generation and more

Didn't say "between" 3rd and 4th generation. Said whole IAF aircraft inventory can be classified as either 3rd or 4th gen. Quote -
"for the Indian Air Force (IAF) since most of the aircraft in its inventory - including the Mirage 2000 and the Su-30 MkI - are classified as either third- or fourth-generation fighters"

"The upgraded version of the Mirage and the Sukhoi 30 can at best reach up to the category of fourth-generation fighters"
- Let's not lie to ourselves. Mirage-2000H & Su-30MKI ticks all the categories of 4th generation.

Post 27 Feb, IAF has literally thrown MKI to dogs. Rafale is a game changer to IAF due to meteor but the SU-30 mki became a villain for faulty R-77, Vintage age radio communication, and Not having a jammer due to IAF's own ignorance. Now the same Russian Jammer doing good, Buying SDR. Why don't IAF admit its own series of mistakes

Because Supreme court on behalf of anti-nationals was hell-bent on sabotaging much-needed Rafale. BJP to justify their deal and create a sense of "urgency" demonized MKI.


Dude, you just wasted my good Sunday afternoon throwing random bullshit videos and articles with missing content and carefully-manipulated information. Are you a troll?

 

[mist_consecutive]

Which world are you living ??? Mig21 crashed, Pilots captured, MI 17 shot down in a friendly fire, Unable to press Mirage 2000 and Su 30MKi That too against a Piddy PAF and you are not counting it as a blow.
Sorry, I'm not that much shameless. No military will admit this as a success
Balakot move was good and I never objected nor cast any doubt. but These are two different incidents so don't mix.
It is a wrong impression that Indian politicians don't have will power for WAR but every time situation arise Armed forces fell short of equipment and go for begging. Merely uttering word like "prepared for any eventuality" doesn't make you sufficient for War. The decision of war can be taken only after a thorough evaluation from all side not by merely hearing words like "prepared for any eventuality: tells Armed forces"

I will give you another patient and informative answer. Try to do the same and debate with facts, not rants.

Apart from Mi-17 friendly fire, nothing went wrong on Feb 27.

Mig21 crashed, Pilots captured

Defending against an 8:1 superior force, both in numbers and generation. Shot down a generation higher F-16 which was part of the strike package.
Yes, the pilot captured. That is the part of the war. There will be losses. But he was returned and back to active service, so I don't take it as a loss.

Unable to press Mirage 2000 and Su 30MKi That too against a Piddy PAF and you are not counting it as a blow

They were into action. They defended against the strike package. Su-30MKIs jammed the signals of DENEL raptor which made them lose datalink and crash into fields rather than homing onto the target. Only one DENEL raptor reached somewhere around the target.

We successfully repelled the enemy attack, while defending against a superior number force. Does that count as a successful defense? Hence as win?

Sorry, I'm not that much shameless. No military will admit this as a success

Because you aren't in the military, nor you understand the operational objectives. You most probably work in HAL/DRDO or are related to it somehow.

It is a wrong impression that Indian politicians don't have will power for WAR but every time situation arise Armed forces fell short of equipment and go for begging. Merely uttering word like "prepared for any eventuality" doesn't make you sufficient for War. The decision of war can be taken only after a thorough evaluation from all side not by merely hearing words like "prepared for any eventuality: tells Armed forces"

I don't understand, when did our armed forces back out of any conflict or from protecting our country saying we are not prepared? Even once? Show me a scenario where our "Armed Forces" say we are not ready for conflict and cannot defend against "X" enemy due to our shortfalls?
No, the articles come pouring from "ex-servicemen", "defense-journalists", "military-analysts", who say "nah, we are not good enough because we don't have war reserve for 300 years, we don't have planet-destroying lasers" etc etc.

After the conflict, there may be an analysis of shortcomings, just like Balakot, and they are rectified. But our armed forces have never backed out from conflict citing weapon shortfalls.

 

[Swiftfarts]

There is to much propaganda against SU 30. People doing such propaganda belong to certain sections of society doing bidding of foreign lobbies. pukes propaganda is expected since they have been hit hard.
First SU 30 radar is no s**t. upgraded Bars on SU 30 is superior to anything pukes have. Second, the jammers on SU 30 are superior to anything in region. KNIRTI khibiny pods are a beast. Superior to growler jammers.
India Rafale saga has more to do with leverage. Russia do the same by supplying Chinese which then go on to supply pukes.
now since we have Rafale we can ask for better package from russians for upgrade.

 

[vishnugupt]

Nowhere in the article states anything remotely regarding MKI being a generation behind or LCA is 3++. Did you attach a wrong article? Try again.

One thing is sure, neither you are an informative person nor you understand English. Moreover, you have a poor grasp on the "point" on which we are discussing ( check my first post ). You throwing my point on my face which I am also denying and the point is, SU-30mki is NOT an inferior fighter even its current form. My whole point was IAF did nothing to counter this propaganda neither corrected their past statements which now hunting MKI reputation. which is IAF duty too. You got this Mr. Genius ??

Read this Article as a proof that discussion over MKI and Tejas did take place in SC

Rafale case: IAF officers emphasise in Supreme Court need for 4th, 5th generation fighter jets

NEW DELHI: Indian Air Force (IAF) officers on Wednesday emphasised in the Supreme Court the need for induction of 'four plus or fifth' generation fighter aircra

www.newindianexpress.com

Here is its interpretation by SC. this interpretation based on the IAF statement which they never countered. ( god give you some brain cells )
"Our country cannot afford to be unprepared/underprepared in a situation where our adversaries are stated to have acquired not only 4th Generation but even 5th Generation Aircrafts, of which, we have none."

For the rest of your BS and explanations don't matter for me neither I asked for because I know these are stunt for import. You asked for proof/Links and I gave you. The End

 

[mist_consecutive]

One thing is sure, neither you are an informative person nor you understand English. Moreover, you have a poor grasp on the "point" on which we are discussing ( check my first post ). You throwing my point on my face which I am also denying and the point is, SU-30mki is NOT an inferior fighter even its current form. My whole point was IAF did nothing to counter this propaganda neither corrected their past statements which now hunting MKI reputation. which is IAF duty too. You got this Mr. Genius ??

Read this Article as a proof that discussion over MKI and Tejas did take place in SC

Rafale case: IAF officers emphasise in Supreme Court need for 4th, 5th generation fighter jets

NEW DELHI: Indian Air Force (IAF) officers on Wednesday emphasised in the Supreme Court the need for induction of 'four plus or fifth' generation fighter aircra

www.newindianexpress.com

Here is its interpretation by SC. this interpretation based on the IAF statement which they never countered. ( god give you some brain cells )
"Our country cannot afford to be unprepared/underprepared in a situation where our adversaries are stated to have acquired not only 4th Generation but even 5th Generation Aircrafts, of which, we have none."

For the rest of your BS and explanations don't matter for me neither I asked for because I know these are stunt for import. You asked for proof/Links and I gave you. The End

Ah, I see. You went too far defending your mudslinging for IAF that I nearly mistook your viewpoint.

SU-30mki is NOT an inferior fighter even its current form. My whole point was IAF did nothing to counter this propaganda neither corrected their past statements which now hunting MKI reputation. which is IAF duty too

This is something we can both agree, yes.

However, for this -

Which world are you living ??? Mig21 crashed, Pilots captured, MI 17 shot down in a friendly fire, Unable to press Mirage 2000 and Su 30MKi That too against a Piddy PAF and you are not counting it as a blow.
Sorry, I'm not that much shameless. No military will admit this as a success
Balakot move was good and I never objected nor cast any doubt. but These are two different incidents so don't mix.
It is a wrong impression that Indian politicians don't have will power for WAR but every time situation arise Armed forces fell short of equipment and go for begging. Merely uttering word like "prepared for any eventuality" doesn't make you sufficient for War. The decision of war can be taken only after a thorough evaluation from all side not by merely hearing words like "prepared for any eventuality: tells Armed forces"

I will wait for your explanation.

 

[Swiftfarts]

Burning moment for some people.

That's not a ELM-2060P SAR/GMTI recce pod but SAP-14 centerline jamming pod. There are also two SAP 518 jammers on wingtip.

 

[vishnugupt]

I will wait for your explanation.

Isn't it self explanatory ?? Despite large resources and types of jets, IAF caught off the guard and outnumbered, and suffered losses on that particular day especially, when we were expecting Pak response ( Being on high alert ).

Neither PAF shot down Su-30mki nor we killed F-16. these are face-saving propaganda from both sides as both parties couldn't meet their objectives that day ( it will hurt many, including me but deep down we all know ). But unfortunately, all losses belong to us so It was indeed "a bad day"

Irrespective of propaganda that How much the Chinese have occupied our territory along LAC but one thing is crystal clear, that India has pushed to its limit and there are only two options left for both countries. Either China back off or India should attack Chinese forces all along LAC.

Compare this situation and our response with Pakistan ( Kargil War, Siachen, surgical strikes, Cross border firing, and many more ) this shows political "will" for a WAR but the same cant be replicated in the case of china because we are not adequately equipped militarily.

A proper response will be " 1) should have warned China first, 2) refuse to talk till PLA Back off from LAC. 3) If China doesn't comply with points 1 and 2 then an imminent Attack on china.

The End

 

[mist_consecutive]

That's not a ELM-2060P SAR/GMTI recce pod but SAP-14 centerline jamming pod. There are also two SAP 518 jammers on wingtip.

Isn't that essentially a growler configuration? From the official manufacturer -

The SAP-14 covers NATO surface-to-air and air-to-air threats in the D-F bands and is deployed in one large, centerline pod. Installed on a single aircraft along with two SAP-518 jamming pods is considered similar to the United States ALQ-99 jamming system installed on the EA-6B Prowler and EA-18G Growler electronic attack aircraft.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Isn't it self explanatory ?? Despite large resources and types of jets, IAF caught off the guard and outnumbered, and suffered losses on that particular day especially, when we were expecting Pak response ( Being on high alert ).

Neither PAF shot down Su-30mki nor we killed F-16. these are face-saving propaganda from both sides as both parties couldn't meet their objectives that day ( it will hurt many, including me but deep down we all know ). But unfortunately, all losses belong to us so It was indeed "a bad day"

Irrespective of propaganda that How much the Chinese have occupied our territory along LAC but one thing is crystal clear, that India has pushed to its limit and there are only two options left for both countries. Either China back off or India should attack Chinese forces all along LAC.

Compare this situation and our response with Pakistan ( Kargil War, Siachen, surgical strikes, Cross border firing, and many more ) this shows political "will" for a WAR but the same cant be replicated in the case of china because we are not adequately equipped militarily.

A proper response will be " 1) should have warned China first, 2) refuse to talk till PLA Back off from LAC. 3) If China doesn't comply with points 1 and 2 then an imminent Attack on china.

The End

Despite large resources and types of jets, IAF caught off the guard and outnumbered

The attacking party will always have the advantage of surprise. We were not caught off-guard, but yes definitely outnumbered for a small period of time, our reinforcements arrived nearly immediately, but till then PAF quickly retreated back.

We were expecting a Paki response, we defended well against it, with equal damages on both sides. What is obvious here?

Neither PAF shot down Su-30mki nor we killed F-16. these are face-saving propaganda from both sides as both parties couldn't meet their objectives that day ( it will hurt many, including me but deep down we all know ). But unfortunately, all losses belong to us so It was indeed "a bad day"

What?

You could have just said you are Pakistani or leftist with the sole life aim of destroying India and I would have left you to your dreams. If you don't believe our air force and choose to believe Pakistani propaganda, who am I to convince you?

 

[A chauhan]

Seems like MKIs have overcome integration problems.

 

[vishnugupt]

Seems like MKIs have overcome integration problems.

It seems ELTA jammer is not working well but as a dangerous situation building up on LAC real jammers came back in action again. Russia has been using this in Syria without any problem since 2014/15
First bought ELTA now again Russian, a total waste of money, resources, and time. Maybe the Israeli gave good kickback deal than the Russian
And one more thing, DARE/DRDO Pod jammer will not see daylight in the future. Hunted 2 birds with a single stone.

 

[Dessert Storm]

Will super sukhoi be more capable than The rafales? Discuss about the possible upgrades and proposed features both rafales and sukhoi are 4th generation aircraft

Guys. Do take time to listen to this Courtesy: Defence Decode.

 

[johnq]

It seems ELTA jammer is not working well but as a dangerous situation building up on LAC real jammers came back in action again. Russia has been using this in Syria without any problem since 2014/15
First bought ELTA now again Russian, a total waste of money, resources, and time. Maybe the Israeli gave good kickback deal than the Russian
And one more thing, DARE/DRDO Pod jammer will not see daylight in the future. Hunted 2 birds with a single stone.

You are wrong. The SU-30MKI is currently flying with the DARE fully-integrated AESA wideband jammer, and that is what is seen on the video. The news media is behind the curve, as usual. But this means that the SU-30MKI can now operate its radar at full power whilst also jamming Chinese missiles and radars. The DARE team was able to fully integrate the AESA based ECM system with the BARS radar (which is a hybrid AESA/PESA radar, thanks to software and hardware updates). This is great news, because the Chinese just lost any BVR advantage they may have had as a result of the J-20 / PL-15 combo, since the IAF can now jam everything the PLA/PLAAF can throw at it. The SU-30MKI is now a growler. Congratulations to the Indian Air Force.

 

[Dessert Storm]

Isn't it self explanatory ?? Despite large resources and types of jets, IAF caught off the guard and outnumbered, and suffered losses on that particular day especially, when we were expecting Pak response ( Being on high alert ).

Neither PAF shot down Su-30mki nor we killed F-16. these are face-saving propaganda from both sides as both parties couldn't meet their objectives that day ( it will hurt many, including me but deep down we all know ). But unfortunately, all losses belong to us so It was indeed "a bad day"

Irrespective of propaganda that How much the Chinese have occupied our territory along LAC but one thing is crystal clear, that India has pushed to its limit and there are only two options left for both countries. Either China back off or India should attack Chinese forces all along LAC.

Compare this situation and our response with Pakistan ( Kargil War, Siachen, surgical strikes, Cross border firing, and many more ) this shows political "will" for a WAR but the same cant be replicated in the case of china because we are not adequately equipped militarily.

A proper response will be " 1) should have warned China first, 2) refuse to talk till PLA Back off from LAC. 3) If China doesn't comply with points 1 and 2 then an imminent Attack on china.

The End

Rules of engagement prevented AD from doing what you now are propogating we should have done. ROEs have been 'suitably amended'.

 

[Shirman]

I would like to know how much non russian upgraded super su-30 mki would cost. HAL proposal unveiled at this defence expo 2020 Lucknow looks decent atleast on paper but it is without uber engines. @Yusuf on twitter came up with the figure of 10 billion USD for a fleet wide upgrade. Add 6.5 billion Tejas Mk1a @83 aircraft and it's By By 114 MMRCA. RAGA got Rafaled at 8.5 billion dollar Rafale deal for 36 fighters. Imagine what Dhamaka Modi brigade in 2nd term will go through if he adopts even this low hanging purchase plan

 

[Neptune]

It seems ELTA jammer is not working well but as a dangerous situation building up on LAC real jammers came back in action again. Russia has been using this in Syria without any problem since 2014/15
First bought ELTA now again Russian, a total waste of money, resources, and time. Maybe the Israeli gave good kickback deal than the Russian
And one more thing, DARE/DRDO Pod jammer will not see daylight in the future. Hunted 2 birds with a single stone.

And I remember how I was ridiculed for claiming India was using those jammers just months ago. The Israeli Elta jammer probably works well against Aim-120s and other older Soviet/Russian air to air missiles since the Israelis have those missiles in their possession and I suppose they probably work against some older and or cheaper less sophisticated SAMS too like a BUK or Pantsir that Israelis faced in Syria but this was way before the Indians bought those jammers so the performance is questionable especially since an Israeli F-16 was shot down by an old S-200. But the combination of SAP-14 and SAP-518 make the MKI a true SEADs platform comparable only to a Growler. Russia gained a lot of experience in electronics warfare over Georgia, Syria, Ukraine and Libya.

Over Syria Russia faced attacks from (and jammed US electronics warfare aircraft). The Israelis probably also heavily target Russian assets with jamming and possibly trying to break encryptions. Ukraine has been a battleground in electronic warfare with even cellphones being targets so it is no surprise that India went for the proven SAP-14/518. By now many analysts and think tanks believe Russia has become one of the world’s leading electronics warfare nations.

In terms of applications, the SAP-14/518 would be useful against China and their extensive SAMs and even disrupting aircraft like J-20s and even AWACS which is not something the Elta is designed for. A few of these would have also made life difficult for F-16s and their Saab Erieyes post Balokot by allowing Indian aircraft to get closer to Pakistani aircraft while jamming their systems.

So the MKI has been upgraded with SAP-14/518 jammers and possibly other avionics that come with those jammers. Astra missiles, Mica missiles (test fired so far) and Brahmos. Some other major enhancements not directly related to the MKI but nevertheless very important would be the Netra which was probably heavily designed with the MKI in mind and the Phalcon AWACS. Despite all the propaganda and misinformation about the MKI and it’s performance against Pakistan (which the MKI held its ground against numerically superior F-16s) the MKI has quietly improved and expanded its BVR capabilities, ground strike capabilities and survivability.

These resent upgrades are considered major and the MKI has not even received the super MKI upgrades.