Sukhoi Su 30MKI

[SajeevJino]

Hey guys I saw a picture of indian version of FGFA on Indian defense page.It looks very real to me and I leaped with joy.I just want to know if that picture is Authentic or not??

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are you talking about this Photo

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/military-aviation/8276-sukhoi-pak-fa-fgfa-fifth-generation-fighter-aircraft-222.html#post880943

 

[Dark Sorrow]

PAKFA will undergo development in two stages while FGFA will directly jump to the stage 2 version. First flight of FGFA was said to be this year, so we need to see when it will actually happen.

PAKFA will undergo development in two stages while FGFA will directly jump to the stage 2 version because all fluid dynamics, flight control testing, power plant testing and analysis, etc. will take place under PAKFA development stages one and hence won't be required for FGFA.

 

[p2prada]

PAKFA will undergo development in two stages while FGFA will directly jump to the stage 2 version because all fluid dynamics, flight control testing, power plant testing and analysis, etc. will take place under PAKFA development stages one and hence won't be required for FGFA.

Yes and no. We don't know the extent of the Stage 2 development except that it will carry the new Id 30 engine. So, the process will repeat itself on both aircraft. Re-engine of PAKFA will happen at similar times as FGFA. FGFA is set to get its engine in 2018.

Some of the flight tests will happen in India for FGFA as well. From 2014 or 2015 onwards.

 

[cobra commando]

Russia Setting Up Repair And Overhaul Facility For
Su-30MKI in India


Russia Setting Up Repair And Overhaul Facility For Su-30MKI in India

 

[SajeevJino]

IAF gets phase IV Su-30 MKI with indigenous content ​

From last year onwards, the IAF has finally started receiving phase IV Sukhoi 30 MKIs which have the highest indigenous content. The license production of Sukhois was undertaken in phased manner with an aim to gradually increase the local content in the aircraft.''


The phase IV was delayed considerably because of aircraft maker HAL's inability to absorb technology. The IAF now has over 190 aircraft out of 272. India has signed various deals for Sukhoi production with an accumulated cost of over $12 billion.

In the first stage the Sukhois were built from completed knocked down kits moving to semi knocked down kits in subsequent stages. In the fourth phase it was meant to be made from raw material.

It has been a long wait for the IAF to get these aircraft. The plan was also to produce 12 aircraft a year but the target was not achieved.

Defence News - IAF gets phase IV Su-30 MKI with indigenous content

@Dark Sorrow @p2prada Interesting facts 190 Sukhio's and They delivering Phase IV config

 

[laughingbuddha]

Is phase - IV the Super Sukhoi?

 

[p2prada]

IAF gets phase IV Su-30 MKI with indigenous content ​

From last year onwards, the IAF has finally started receiving phase IV Sukhoi 30 MKIs which have the highest indigenous content. The license production of Sukhois was undertaken in phased manner with an aim to gradually increase the local content in the aircraft.''


The phase IV was delayed considerably because of aircraft maker HAL's inability to absorb technology. The IAF now has over 190 aircraft out of 272. India has signed various deals for Sukhoi production with an accumulated cost of over $12 billion.

In the first stage the Sukhois were built from completed knocked down kits moving to semi knocked down kits in subsequent stages. In the fourth phase it was meant to be made from raw material.

It has been a long wait for the IAF to get these aircraft. The plan was also to produce 12 aircraft a year but the target was not achieved.

Defence News - IAF gets phase IV Su-30 MKI with indigenous content

@Dark Sorrow @p2prada Interesting facts 190 Sukhio's and They delivering Phase IV config

This news is correct as of November 2011. We had 190 MKIs at the time. 194 by March 2012. Seems like another re-hashed piece.

Today, we are well over 200. As a matter of fact, phase IV production will be complete early next year. That's 230 Su-30MKIs.

 

[Dark Sorrow]

ELL-8222 - Comprehensive Self-Protection Jamming Pod

 

[Dark Sorrow]

MRF is set to emerge as a major supplier of tyres for the Indian Air Force (IAF) as the country's leading tyre maker has now created yet another record of supplying aircraft tyres for the defence.

After successfully producing and supplying tyres for Indian defence helicopters, the company has now started supplying indigenously developed tyres for Sukhoi 30 MKI, the most advanced fighter aircraft group in the IAF fleet. The main wheel tyre for the Sukhoi was unveiled on Saturday.

The development marks one of the significant steps in defence's indigenisation programme. MRF's supply is to result in significant savings as its tyres will be priced 30-40 per cent lower than the tyres the IAF used to procure from outside the country.

"We are the only Indian company to make tyres for Indian defence helicopters and aircraft, and with this, we will be among the very few global tyre OEMs that supply aviation tyres," said Arun Mammen, Managing Director, MRF Ltd.

Though MRF has been supplying tyres to various vehicles of Defence Forces, its journey to supply aviation tyres began in 2001. After meeting all requirements and securing approvals from various authorities, it started supplying helicopter tyres for Chetak fleet in 2008. In the same year, it took up the project of developing main wheel tyres for Sukhoi 30 MKI. By working with various entities of Defence Department, the company came up with indigenously developed fighter tyres, which have been tested for ground speeds of up to 420 kmph with loads in excess of 18 tons per tyre.

After completion of the tests, the product has been cleared by CEMILAC (The certifying authority for Military aviation) for commercial production in 2012. These tyres are being produced at its facility at Medak (Andhra Pradesh).

 

[laughingbuddha]

How long does a set of tyres last?

 

[aerokan]

How long does a set of tyres last?

They will survive around 40-70 take-off and landing routines depending on the manufacturer

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[Neil]

India's Air Force to get 40 strike fighters with BrahMos missiles


KUALA LUMPUR, April 16, /ITAR-TASS/. India's Air Force will get 40 SU-30MKI strike fighters armed with a smaller version of BrahMos missiles, Russian-Indian joint venture BrahMos Aerospace President Sivathanu Pillai told ARMS-TASS at the international arms exhibition DSA-2014 in Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday, April 16.

The company is working to reduce the weight of the missile so that it could be integrated with different platforms, including the fifth-generation fighter India is creating together with Russia, he said.
Pillai noted that the commissioning of the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier complete with deck-based MiG-29K/KUB jet fighters required accelerated work to arm them with a smaller version of the BrahMos missile so that the aircraft could take off from the carrier with two missiles under their wings.

While the fifth-generation jet fighter and MiG-29K/KUB aircraft can be armed with two BrahMos-M missiles, the Su-30MKI strike fighters can carry three such missiles. The latter aircraft will be modernised to take and fire the missiles. The Indian Air Force has already made the relevant decision.

Pillai hopes that the first ship-based version of the BrahMos missile will be fired in the fourth quarter of this year from a SU-30MKI jet fighter.

The missile will be 6 metres long and have a diameter of 0.5 metres. It will be able to travel at a speed 3.5 times the sound velocity and carry a charge of 200 to 300 kg over a maximum distance of up to 290 km. The BrahMos missiles that have been tested up to date are two-stage cruise missiles 10 meters long and 0.7 metres in diameter.
The BrahMos supersonic cruise missile was successfully test fired from the Indian Navy's newest guided missile frigate INS Tarkash off the coast of Goa in late May 2013.

The missile performed high-level "C" manoeuvre at pre-determined flight path and successfully hit the target. The surface-to-surface missile, having a range of 290-km, was test launched from the Russian-built Project 1135.6 class warship.

BrahMos cruise missiles have been adopted by India's Army and the Navy's surface ships. The Indian Air Force has also ordered a batch of land-based missiles. Work is also underway to adapt the missile to Su-30MKI planes used by the Indian Air Force.

BrahMos is an acronym of the two rivers: Brahmaputra in India and Moskva in Russia.

When visiting the headquarters of the Russian-Indian joint venture BrahMos Aerospace Limited that makes supersonic cruise missiles, the chief of the Russian Army General Staff said that the joint venture made reliable missiles that have few matches in the world.

The joint venture has designed a new version of the supersonic cruise missile of the same name that can be launched from submarines.

The missiles are intended for use aboard the Scorpion-type submarine, for which the Indian Navy has placed orders in France.

The Russian-Indian joint venture BrahMos has designed a new version of the supersonic cruise missile of the same name that can be launched from submarines.

The BrahMos missile has a flight range of up to 290 kilometres and is capable of carrying a conventional warhead of 300 kilograms. The missile can cruise at a maximum speed of 2.8 Mach.


ITAR-TASS: World - India's Air Force to get 40 strike fighters with BrahMos missiles

 

[laughingbuddha]

Projected payload is interesting.

 

[Soumya1989]

 

[Apollyon]

This news is correct as of November 2011. We had 190 MKIs at the time. 194 by March 2012. Seems like another re-hashed piece.

Today, we are well over 200. As a matter of fact, phase IV production will be complete early next year. That's 230 Su-30MKIs.

So next Phase with 42 Su-30MKI armed with Brahmos will be completed by early 2018 and LCA MK-1 production will peak by then. I think this is the only our economy can afford now and there is no need for Rafale .

 

[SajeevJino]

Air Force likely to get entire Sukhoi-30MKI fleet by 2019​

The Su-30MKI is pure performance - it is astonishingly agile, a favourite in aerobatics displays; and its 8-tonne armament payload makes it a formidable multi-role aircraft. It has the missiles to protect itself while flying on a mission, the bombs and rockets to comprehensively pulverize a target, the electronics to deceive enemy radars, and can return home while warding off enemy fighters.

The IAF is keen to quickly induct the 272 Su-30MKI fighters it has on order, especially since the Rafale contract remains uncertain. But HAL - which delivered an impressive 15 fighters last year - says completion would be possible only by about 2019, a two-and-a-half-year delay from the 2016-17 target that was set when the contract was signed with Russia in 2000.

The delay stems from the IAF's wish to make the Su-30MKI the high-performance fighter that it eventually turned out to be. Unsatisfied with the Su-30 initially supplied by Russia, the IAF demanded improved aerodynamic performance. Russia added canards and a thrust-vectoring engine, the AL-31FP, which could push the fighter in multiple directions, adding agility. All this took time and Sukhoi transferred the technology two-and-a-half years late.

Business Standard spoke to HAL officials to find out why prices have risen despite an ongoing indigenisation programme that has met all its targets. The reason, it emerges, lies in the nature of the manufacturing contract signed with Sukhoi, which was to see a progressive enhancement of Indian content through four phases. Yet, even though Phase IV has recently been achieved, this provides for only limited indigenisation. While Sukhoi was bound to transfer technology for building the fighter, the contract mandates that all raw materials - including titanium blocks and forgings, aluminium and steel plates, etc - must be sourced from Russia.

This means that, of the 43,000 items that go into the Sukhoi-30MKI, some 5,800 consist of large metal plates, castings and forgings that must contractually be provided by Russia. HAL then transforms the raw material into aircraft components, using the manufacturing technology transferred by Sukhoi.

That results in massive wastage of metal. For example, a 486 kg titanium bar supplied by Russia is whittled down to a 15.9 kg tail component. The titanium shaved off is wasted. Similarly a wing bracket that weighs just 3.1 kg has to be fashioned from a titanium forging that weighs 27 kg.

Furthermore, the contract stipulates that standard components like nuts, bolts, screws and rivets - a total of 7,146 items - must all be sourced from Russia.

The reason for this, explain HAL officials, is that manufacturing sophisticated raw materials like titanium extrusions in India is not economically viable for the tiny quantities needed for Su-30MKI fighters.

"For raw materials production to be commercially viable, India's aerospace companies would need to produce in larger volumes. That means they must become global suppliers, as a part of a major aerospace company's global supply chain. Licensed manufacture for our own needs does not create adequate demand," says Daljeet Singh, HAL Nashik's manufacturing head.

Still, HAL builds about 10,000 of the 30,000 fabricated components in each fighter. While a significant percentage of this is outsourced to private sector vendors in aerospace hubs like Bangalore, Hyderabad, Chennai, Pune and Coimbatore, the Nashik facility itself hums with activity, which includes modifying the Su-30MKI to fit on the air-to-surface Brahmos cruise missile, which will make the fighter even more deadly.

:: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines ::

 

[ladder]

Brahmos with Sukhoi-30 fighters to improve India's strike options

Brahmos with Sukhoi-30 fighters to improve India's strike options | Business Standard

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Parked in a hangar in HAL's Nashik facility is the first Su-30MKI that is being modified to carry the Brahmos in the cavity between the aircraft's giant engines. Later this year, ground tests will begin at Nashik. If successful, the aircraft will be ferried to Rajasthan to actually test-fire the missile in Pokhran. If all goes well, the air-launched Brahmos would enter operational service next year.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) challenged both Sukhoi and HAL to propose competing solutions for integrating missile with aircraft. The Indian solution won out handily, and a contract was signed with HAL in January. Already the Brahmos has been mounted under the Su-30MKI's belly, secured on two mounting stations that replace hard points that were designed to carry ten 250-kilogramme bombs.

 

[Neil]

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"The Russians are most interested in how HAL is integrating the Brahmos. We beat them out in the contract and now they want to know what we're doing," says RP Khapli, who is leading HAL's design team in the project.

Nobody will acknowledge this, but modifying a Su-30MKI to carry a 2,500 kg missile is a big step towards rendering it capable of carrying and delivering a thermonuclear bomb.

Integrating the Brahmos with the Su-30MKI encountered several technical challenges. IIT Mumbai assisted with studies in "computational fluid dynamics" to ascertain that the giant missile did not create disruptive airflow that would destabilise the fighter or starve its two engines of air.

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also the article is repeatedly pointing out that air launched brahmos will travel 295km.. isnt it that air launched missiles have greater range than their land launched version..?

 

[jackprince]

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also the article is repeatedly pointing out that air launched brahmos will travel 295km.. isnt it that air launched missiles have greater range than their land launched version..?

The air-launched version would be much lighter so as to enable MKI to fit in pylon, so the weight compromise must have been made in fuel too. Further, Brahmos itself having Russian technology cannot exceed the 300 km limit of Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (if I m not wrong).

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

http://defencenews.in/defence-news-internal.aspx?id=NyqbtwPh$$vs=
here is total information of brahmos on su30mki