Sukhoi PAK FA

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I was about to post the news, BR is faster !

Its good to hear such news, though he didnt said our involvement in composites in PAK-Fa....

Or may be we will have in FGFA..
 

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can Su-30MKI do this Cobra manoeuvres with full load of weapons???
never seen before so i got a doubt???
Maybe yes maybe no. The Thrust required to pull of a perfect maneuver may not be sufficient when the aircraft starts dropping fast, if it is carrying 12 missiles. It is not a combat maneuver, it is mainly to test the limits of the aircraft during testing. Pretty neat during air shows.

But there is another move called the Cobra Turn which belongs in the TVC regime. Instead of just going 120deg and then leveling, the aircraft would do a "backflip" and then level out.

There are plenty of TVC maneuvers like Kulbit and Herbst maneuvers and many others that are kept secret. TVC has opened whole new chapters for WVR engagement.
 

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It is interesting to see that the US military thinks all future air-combat will be BVR and is building stealth fighters on that doctrine. The Russians on the other hand think that the future combat will still require significant WVR components and are stressing as much on stealth as on aerodynamics and low-speed maneuvers.
 

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It is interesting to see that the US military thinks all future air-combat will be BVR and is building stealth fighters on that doctrine. The Russians on the other hand think that the future combat will still require significant WVR components and are stressing as much on stealth as on aerodynamics and low-speed maneuvers.
The US hardly thinks "All Future Air Combat" will be at BVR. Yet, the majority will and that is supported by fact. Regardless, the F-22 and F-35 will be more than capable of handling any fighter in WVR Engagements.
 

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Actually, F-22 is one of the very few western fighters which can do the Pugachev Cobra maneauver, which I am certain cannot be done by a fighter with high wing drag (like F-15).

Hardly useful in the real world of Air Combat. Which, has been stated over and over again. To stop still even for a second is more often than not fatal.:wave:
 

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Hardly useful in the real world of Air Combat. Which, has been stated over and over again. To stop still even for a second is more often than not fatal.:wave:
I know that - the point of discussion was aerodynamic abilities of the airframe, not their combat use.
 

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What's the MiG I 2000? Why is Sukhoi spelt as Sokhoi? Is that the Russian spelling? A fifth Gen fighter should also have AESA and IRST, which is not mentioned here. Super maneuverability is already there in the MKI.
 

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What's the MiG I 2000? Why is Sukhoi spelt as Sokhoi? Is that the Russian spelling? A fifth Gen fighter should also have AESA and IRST, which is not mentioned here. Super maneuverability is already there in the MKI.
I think this is an old image. They could have easily used an image of the flying PAK-FA prototype...
 

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Some real specs about the FGFA would be welcome - anyone knows any RFI/ RFPs from GOI?
 

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What's the MiG I 2000? Why is Sukhoi spelt as Sokhoi? Is that the Russian spelling? A fifth Gen fighter should also have AESA and IRST, which is not mentioned here. Super maneuverability is already there in the MKI.
What do you expect from a fan made picture?

Some real specs about the FGFA would be welcome - anyone knows any RFI/ RFPs from GOI?
The ASR has already been submitted. There is no RFI and RFP for JV and development projects. Only ASR.

Nothing is public and nothing will be public for a few more years with FGFA. We are going to see the PAKFA in the next MAKS. So, expect some tit bits then.
 

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The PAK FA will go into a series of 8 years


ÏÀÊ ÔÀ ïîéäåò â ñåðèþ ÷åðåç 8 ëåò; Ðåñóðñ ìàøèíîñòðîåíèÿ. Ìàøèíîñòðîåíèå: íîâîñòè ìàøèíîñòðîåíèÿ, ñòàòüè. Êàòàëîã: ìàøèíîñòðîèòåëüíûé çàâîä è ïðåäïðèÿòèÿ.

To run a series of perspective aviation complex tactical aircraft (PAK FA) will need 8 years.

That's the message had been received from the deputy head of "Russian Technologies" Dmitry Shugayeva made "‹"‹during the visit of Russian delegation at today otkryvschemsya 49th International Air Show in Le Bourget - "Paris eyrshou-2011," writes ARMS-TASS reported. Shugaev recalled that the first flight of the PAK FA committed to 2009 Currently, he noted, already about 70% of the components for the aircraft in establishments of the corporation. The head of "Russian Technologies" has made "‹"‹it clear that the most interesting new company will demonstrate at the MAKS-2011, which will be held in August at Zhukovsky near Moscow. "For him, we are saving a number of news", - said Mr. Shugaev.
 

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Boris Obnosov: T-50 be equipped with modern weapons

Борис Обносов: Т-50 оснастят новейшим вооружением — ÐžÐ Ð£Ð–ИЕ РОССИИ, Каталог вооружения, военной и специальной техники



Russian fifth generation fighter T-50 (also known as PAK FA - promising aviation complex tactical aviation), because of which the United States recently announced the impending loss of leadership in technology, "Stealth" will receive the latest rocket. On a system running the corporation, "Tactical Missiles", reported "Interfax" on Wednesday at the Air Show in Le Bourget, the Paris suburb of General Director of JSC "Corporation" Tactical Missiles ", a member of the editorial board of "Weapons of Russia" Boris Obnosov.

According Obnosova, now all the complexes, which are set out in the tactical-technical task for the PAK FA, are practicing in a corporation in different stages. "For a gun entered the state tests, somewhere we even completed the state tests and are currently working on perfecting and preparing the first production batches," - said the general director.

As stressed by Boris Obnosov program to create weapons systems for the T-50 is compatible with the work on the fighter and is divided into two phases. The first phase will last until 2014, the second starts from 2015. At each stage will be improved weapon systems. In the case of rockets "air-air" program involves a gradual increase in range, improved accuracy, the improvement of technical characteristics.

General Director of the corporation said that the developer of a fighter - the company "Dry" and representatives of the "Tactical Missiles" regularly hold joint meetings to check their actions in this regard. It is assumed that the weapons should be ready by the time of delivery of the fighter into production, reports NEWSru.com .

PAK FA - promising aviation complex tactical aircraft - the Russian multi-role fighter of the fifth generation, developed by a division of United Aircraft Corporation - Sukhoi Design Bureau, where it passes under the designation T-50. Production machines of this type will be collected at KnAAPO, where at the moment the build prototypes.

The first flight of the plane has made January 29, 2010. Series production aircraft to begin in 2015. In 2013, due to start limited production of this type of aircraft for testing weapons.

Aircraft designed to replace the MiG-29 and Su-27 in the Russian Air Force. For export on the basis of the PAK FA is created jointly with India export version of the aircraft received the designation FGFA (Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft - fifth-generation fighter).


In the inner compartment can be located as a fighter missiles' air - air "and class" air - surface ". In a class "air - air" is a big rocket and short-range and medium range missiles. In a class "air - surface" in the inner compartment can be placed anti-ship missiles, rockets modular general-purpose bombs and guided the caliber of 250 kg.

The aircraft can also carry guided missiles and bombs of various caliber destination up to 1,500 kg on external sling.

49th Air Show in Le Bourget, opened June 20 and will run until the 26th. The number of companies - participants of the event this year surpassed 2100. In the summer program involves interior and Russian aircraft - Sukhoi Superjet 100 and amphibian Be-200 .

The Russian exposition covers an area of "‹"‹1700 square meters. Inside, the first involved 56 Russian organizations, which were brought to France, 262 items of military and civil purposes, including aircraft, helicopters and missiles. Russian combat aircraft are presented only as models.

 
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Boris Obnosov: T-50 be equipped with modern weapons

Борис Обносов: Т-50 оснастят новейшим вооружением�—�ОРУЖИЕ РОССИИ, Каталог вооружения, военной и специальной техники



Russian fifth generation fighter T-50 (also known as PAK FA - promising aviation complex tactical aviation), because of which the United States recently announced the impending loss of leadership in technology, "Stealth" will receive the latest rocket. On a system running the corporation, "Tactical Missiles", reported "Interfax" on Wednesday at the Air Show in Le Bourget, the Paris suburb of General Director of JSC "Corporation" Tactical Missiles ", a member of the editorial board of "Weapons of Russia" Boris Obnosov.

According Obnosova, now all the complexes, which are set out in the tactical-technical task for the PAK FA, are practicing in a corporation in different stages. "For a gun entered the state tests, somewhere we even completed the state tests and are currently working on perfecting and preparing the first production batches," - said the general director.

As stressed by Boris Obnosov program to create weapons systems for the T-50 is compatible with the work on the fighter and is divided into two phases. The first phase will last until 2014, the second starts from 2015. At each stage will be improved weapon systems. In the case of rockets "air-air" program involves a gradual increase in range, improved accuracy, the improvement of technical characteristics.

General Director of the corporation said that the developer of a fighter - the company "Dry" and representatives of the "Tactical Missiles" regularly hold joint meetings to check their actions in this regard. It is assumed that the weapons should be ready by the time of delivery of the fighter into production, reports NEWSru.com .

PAK FA - promising aviation complex tactical aircraft - the Russian multi-role fighter of the fifth generation, developed by a division of United Aircraft Corporation - Sukhoi Design Bureau, where it passes under the designation T-50. Production machines of this type will be collected at KnAAPO, where at the moment the build prototypes.

The first flight of the plane has made January 29, 2010. Series production aircraft to begin in 2015. In 2013, due to start limited production of this type of aircraft for testing weapons.

Aircraft designed to replace the MiG-29 and Su-27 in the Russian Air Force. For export on the basis of the PAK FA is created jointly with India export version of the aircraft received the designation FGFA (Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft - fifth-generation fighter).


In the inner compartment can be located as a fighter missiles' air - air "and class" air - surface ". In a class "air - air" is a big rocket and short-range and medium range missiles. In a class "air - surface" in the inner compartment can be placed anti-ship missiles, rockets modular general-purpose bombs and guided the caliber of 250 kg.

The aircraft can also carry guided missiles and bombs of various caliber destination up to 1,500 kg on external sling.

49th Air Show in Le Bourget, opened June 20 and will run until the 26th. The number of companies - participants of the event this year surpassed 2100. In the summer program involves interior and Russian aircraft - Sukhoi Superjet 100 and amphibian Be-200 .

The Russian exposition covers an area of "‹"‹1700 square meters. Inside, the first involved 56 Russian organizations, which were brought to France, 262 items of military and civil purposes, including aircraft, helicopters and missiles. Russian combat aircraft are presented only as models.

 
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