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that is " Indian Media " .....................open that link & read his original statement .
Yeah, I always wonder how can you stay calm and not bored listening constant shit bursts from different media like this one...
 

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And now the real news:
UEC CEO Alexander Artiukhov has stated that the first Item 30 equipped T-50 prototype will fly by the end of 2017. The statemend was done during press briefing on Aero India 2017 in Bangalore.
He has confirmed that Item 30 will have 20% greater dry and wet thrust comparable to Item 117 (Al-41F-1) engines (11500kgs upon 9500kgs dry and 18000kgs upon 15000kgs wet respectively), will have completely new design including changeable Bryton cycle control parameters and variable bypass levels.
So all the yumydelicious things we discussed earlier but barely could to believe in have revealled as an official truth.
And now just imagine Item 30 powered G5 LCA :)


https://ria.ru/radio_brief/20170214/1487962080.html
http://www.aex.ru/news/2017/2/15/166345/
 

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And now the real news:
UEC CEO Alexander Artiukhov has stated that the first Item 30 equipped T-50 prototype will fly by the end of 2017. The statemend was done during press briefing on Aero India 2017 in Bangalore.
He has confirmed that Item 30 will have 20% greater dry and wet thrust comparable to Item 117 (Al-41F-1) engines (11500kgs upon 9500kgs dry and 18000kgs upon 15000kgs wet respectively), will have completely new design including changeable Bryton cycle control parameters and variable bypass levels.
So all the yumydelicious things we discussed earlier but barely could to believe in have revealled as an official truth.
And now just imagine Item 30 powered G5 LCA :)


https://ria.ru/radio_brief/20170214/1487962080.html
http://www.aex.ru/news/2017/2/15/166345/
What on the Earth made think LCA will be powered by item 30?
 

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What on the Earth made think LCA will be powered by item 30?
My goodness, man...
I talk about the right way LCA that should be 1/2 of heavy fighter.
We have discussed that in Rafale thread.
I mean that if ADA or HAL will ever made G5 LCA then it would be a little beast if powered by 18 tons thrust engine.

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Its not possible to buy requisite strength 5G aircraft. We should buy more rafale, Grippen and Su30 for the same price and focus on AMCA
 

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@gadeshi Any idea about the timeline of item 30's inductionot into service?
2020 with the first operational squadron.
The first LRIP in 2018 for T-50 first LRIP squadron.

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http://www.thenational.ae/business/economy/idex-2017-uae-and-russia-to-develop-fighter-jet

I wonder if this is a legit deal or just trying to apply backdoor pressure tactics on us by saying "we don't need you anymore" (in light of RM ordering review)
1 - Russians don't need anybody to develop PAK FA, they develop and fund it themselves.
2 - FGFA is important (for both sides in different reasons) JV with a wide TOT to India, so nobody will deny it.
3 - Russia has the right to have JV with anybody on any subject (as India either).
4 - UAE JV means light G5 fighter (G5 LCA) development - the right LCA this time, powered by 1 Item 30.
5 - This JV does not intersect FGFA one in any means except... UAE can order FGFA export version as AF heavy component which is lucrative for all the FGFA stakeholders.

Why are you so suspicious? :)

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That's a whole different thing. It is going to be based on MIG platform. And it's a light fighter so not much to do with India.
Well, India could join it for G5 LCA as well :)

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Well, India could join it for G5 LCA as well :)

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Since LCA itself is reaching 4.5 gen milestones very soon . And AMCA on the line we will have to skip this one:biggrin2:​
 

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