Sukhoi-34 Fullback

[gadeshi]

 

[Twinblade]

Early Su-34 prototype weapons testing:
36 x OFAB-250-270 = 9000 kg. 300 km Low-Low-Low Subsonic, 500 km Hi-Low-Hi 1 Supersonic leap.

That is some brutal payload. 9 tons of misery from the sky I wonder why haven't the Russians gone for miniaturised smart weapon equivalents of the SDB or Brimstone ? With those one Su-34 might be able to take out an entire city.

 

[Twinblade]

I doubt it can penetrate NATO air defense, or even Chinese. It has no stealth whatsoever and it's huge. What it can do is position itself at stand-off distances and lob cruise missiles at targets within NATO.

You are missing killowatts of on board power for the jamming pods and racks after racks of electronics crammed inside the cockpit. This thing is the growler and strike eagle combined.

 

[Anas Ali]

the full back is a fierce fighter its defiantly will do nicely with the Indian air force if they got it

 

[gadeshi]

 

[gadeshi]

Donno what about generic IAF strike units, but Su-34 will be a perfect regional strategic bomber for ISF.

 

[p2prada]

Donno what about generic IAF strike units, but Su-34 will be a perfect regional strategic bomber for ISF.

We currently use Mig-27 and Jaguar on purely strike role. Other aircraft also have strike roles, but those are secondary roles. We will replace Mig-27 with Rafale. We will also use MKI, Mirage-2000UPG and Mig-29UPG for strike.

So, money can be used on FGFA instead. More than range, we need survivability in enemy territory. Su-34 type range is not very useful against Pakistan (highest breadth of the country is 450 Km and most important targets are within 100 or 150 Km from borders). And Su-34 is less survivable over China because of all the S-300 rip offs. FGFA might have as much or more range and I doubt we will manage air superiority over China that we can start using external weapons. So what we really need are 5th gen strike aircraft, not 4th gen. Eventually a larger two seat FGFA will have to be made for such a role the next decade. A direct 5th gen equivalent of the Su-34.

 

[gadeshi]

 

[sayareakd]

@gadeshi I always love your pics..................:thumb:

 

[gadeshi]

It's not my pics, I just repost the most beautiful or interesting ones

 

[Illusive]

I wanted to see it in IAF colours, real nahi photoshop hi sahi to

 

[gadeshi]

We currently use Mig-27 and Jaguar on purely strike role. Other aircraft also have strike roles, but those are secondary roles. We will replace Mig-27 with Rafale. We will also use MKI, Mirage-2000UPG and Mig-29UPG for strike.

So, money can be used on FGFA instead. More than range, we need survivability in enemy territory. Su-34 type range is not very useful against Pakistan (highest breadth of the country is 450 Km and most important targets are within 100 or 150 Km from borders). And Su-34 is less survivable over China because of all the S-300 rip offs. FGFA might have as much or more range and I doubt we will manage air superiority over China that we can start using external weapons. So what we really need are 5th gen strike aircraft, not 4th gen. Eventually a larger two seat FGFA will have to be made for such a role the next decade. A direct 5th gen equivalent of the Su-34.

So, you will wait for Su-54 till 2035 at least
Russians will have PAK DA for strategic operations and Okhotnik-B for regional-strategic ones after 2030.
Now Su-34 is a perfect for euro-strategic role, as it is rangy, powerful and survivable in any AD environment.

PAK FA will not be as capable as Su-34 as a bomber, as it's a FDOW interdictor (to kill support craft, AWACS, jammers first and priority communication and AD units second) and does not have enough firepower to destroy massive targets. But Su-34 can (via Onyx/Calibr/Granat missiles and variety range of bombs including 1500kg ones).

So, if ISF want a strategic bird - Su-34 is a perfect choice.

 

[p2prada]

So, you will wait for Su-54 till 2035 at least

No, it won't take that long.

Su-34 development was frozen because the SU demise. Or else they would have built it much earlier. The next PAKFA versions will be taken up right after PAKFA achieves FOC.

PAK FA will not be as capable as Su-34 as a bomber, as it's a FDOW interdictor (to kill support craft, AWACS, jammers first and priority communication and AD units second) and does not have enough firepower to destroy massive targets. But Su-34 can (via Onyx/Calibr/Granat missiles and variety range of bombs including 1500kg ones).

So, if ISF want a strategic bird - Su-34 is a perfect choice.

F-22 is worse than PAKFA in terms of strike capability, but USAF will use it for SEAD. We can do the same with FGFA. Su-34 won't justify the costs. And we don't have requirements for a purely strategic fighter bomber today. We don't have the range requirement VVS has.

 

[northernarunachalpradesh]

I wanted to see it in IAF colours, real nahi photoshop hi sahi to

Good work.:thumb:

 

[Austin]

Russians will have PAK DA for strategic operations and Okhotnik-B for regional-strategic ones after 2030..

Whats Okhotnik-B ?

 

[arnabmit]

IN can use Su-34 as shore based ASh bomber under Eastern, Western, Southern and A&N commands.

Typical load out:
2x Drop tanks
4x Brahmos
2x BVRAAM
2x WVRAAM
1x EW Pod
1x Recce pod

 

[TrueSpirit1]

IN can use Su-34 as shore based ASh bomber under Eastern, Western, Southern and A&N commands.

Typical load out:
2x Drop tanks
4x Brahmos
2x BVRAAM
2x WVRAAM
1x EW Pod
1x Recce pod

MKI's have everything that's needed to perform a similar role (maybe a refuel or two), if not to exact degree.

Only more sorties & more MKI's (that we have aplenty) would be needed due to limitation of max. load out on pylons. This would get even better with availability of lighter versions of Brahmos. Till then, it would be 4 × Kh-35 or 3 × Kh-59MK the MKI's in anti-shipping role.

 

[gadeshi]

MKI's have everything that's needed to perform a similar role (maybe a refuel or two), if not to exact degree.

Only more sorties & more MKI's (that we have aplenty) would be needed due to limitation of max. load out on pylons. This would get even better with availability of lighter versions of Brahmos. Till then, it would be 4 × Kh-35 or 3 × Kh-59MK the MKI's in anti-shipping role.

MKI cannot fly long on low altitude and cannot fly on LA with a proper load supersonic.
So, MKI is not a bomber, just a palliative compromise decision.

 

[gadeshi]

Whats Okhotnik-B ?

20 tons-class supercruisable maneurable autonomous strike UCAS.
Now is under development by Sukhoi.

 

[gadeshi]

No, it won't take that long.

Su-54 is a rumored 5-gen tactical bomber. It is unsure for now whether it will be done or not.

Su-34 development was frozen because the SU demise. Or else they would have built it much earlier. The next PAKFA versions will be taken up right after PAKFA achieves FOC.

Where are the proofs ?
Russia is not intended to have monotyped AF, even with PAK FA as a base. We don't know whether bomber version of PAK FA wil be at all. It's possible that Okhotnik-B will take that role.

F-22 is worse than PAKFA in terms of strike capability, but USAF will use it for SEAD.

Yeah, right, with what weapons against Buk (we are not speaking about S-300PMU2) ?

We can do the same with FGFA. Su-34 won't justify the costs. And we don't have requirements for a purely strategic fighter bomber today. We don't have the range requirement VVS has.

May be. I speak exactly about strategic role (with conventional and nuclear strike).

As for SEAD, this role is not properly effective without a proper RF surviallance and jamming capabilities, which Su-34 has in excess