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yes but if as long as that neighbor keeps pissing in our direction and bites the hand that helps him up, it can be a bad thing to help out that neighbor.
other than IPKF, when did GoI ever adopt muscular policy in neighbourhood. that aside.

last time when GoI did what you asking them to do now, is when chinese filled the power vaccum in the region.

there is plenty of literature on "South Asia" being one of the least inter-connected regions in the world.

in effect, being stupid enough to leave power vaccum in this region has created this mess in the first place.
in addition to the above post.

firstly we have recognise that India is in cold war(between U.S and china) and cold peace(with china) at the same time.

during the previous cold war even though India was in soviet camp, muricans gave us food aid thru PL 480 (1961), created ICRISAT (1972) and assisted in creating IIT-Kanpur(1959). these were their investments for future Indo-U.S relationship.

can we not apply the same logic here, since we have some catching up to do wrt SL, instead of leaving power vaccum once again?
 

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in addition to the above post.

firstly we have recognise that India is in cold war(between U.S and china) and cold peace(with china) at the same time.

during the previous cold war even though India was in soviet camp, muricans gave us food aid thru PL 480, created ICRISAT and assisted in creating IIT-Kanpur. these were their investments for future Indo-U.S relationship.

can we not apply the same logic here, since we have some catching up to do wrt SL?
We can as long as those aids reach India friendly SL groups. India needs to cultivate groups and orgs that are India friendly in SL.
 

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We can as long as those aids reach India friendly SL groups. India needs to cultivate groups and orgs that are India friendly in SL.
ideally yes.
but my understanding is GoI relies on G2G relationship. GoI does not seem to have the capacity to cultivate groups, definitely not at the scale of U.S and China.
 

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in addition to the above post.

firstly we have recognise that India is in cold war(between U.S and china) and cold peace(with china) at the same time.

during the previous cold war even though India was in soviet camp, muricans gave us food aid thru PL 480 (1961), created ICRISAT (1972) and assisted in creating IIT-Kanpur(1959). these were their investments for future Indo-U.S relationship.

can we not apply the same logic here, since we have some catching up to do wrt SL, instead of leaving power vaccum once again?
man,even if that it correct,you also surely know the west of the cold war was a machine that could think afford and had the structure and depth in its deep state to plan ahead and think ahead like that.do you think India is in those categories,i dont know actually.if it going with our previous behaviour,i would say NO.so all this 'investment' they are doing will go to waste if it not returned in coming years.we dont even know if there will be the government who even remember that we gave a lot of money to them.
 

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man,even if that it correct,you also surely know the west of the cold war was a machine that could think afford and had the structure and depth in its deep state to plan ahead and think ahead like that.do you think India is in those categories,i dont know actually.if it going with our previous behaviour,i would say NO.so all this 'investment' they are doing will go to waste if it not returned in coming years.we dont even know if there will be the government who even remember that we gave a lot of money to them.
No disagreement here.

This is why foreign policy is a topic of interest for me.
the moves, the counter moves, risk and reward, all playing out at the same time.
 

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No disagreement here.

This is why foreign policy is a topic of interest for me.
the moves, the counter moves, risk and reward, all playing out at the same time.
Modi with full majority in both houses is waiting for what exactly in 2nd term to put some muscle into policy? I do not consider BJP as right wing by any means while congress is totally islamic and 3rd front are antiHindu and freakists cum leftists.....right wing politicians across the world surrendered without a fight, its probably better they don't get into power as they are causing more damage to natives by not doing anything than remaining in opposition. Putin and Xi are exceptions.....in a good way for their people. We went from having 2 unstable countries to pretty much everyone around us now being unstable....I prefer that they stay like that as long as we show them who is the boss in the area.
 

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ideally yes.
but my understanding is GoI relies on G2G relationship. GoI does not seem to have the capacity to cultivate groups, definitely not at the scale of U.S and China.
How and what kind of capacity does GoI need to cultivate groups? Is monetary support? Language specialist support? Cultural exchange support? etc.?
 

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well,

the news is that rajapaksa is making a come back. with current president was their lackey was well known but they have ordered him to restore them into SL again...

While kaka continue to pump dollars, and fertilisers and same time asking us to buy khadi.. I don't see this giving us any returns in medium to long term... we need to tighten purse strings.. SL have not shown any inclination so far towards us.. thats they r like porkies at the moment... using us and monkeys against each other and getting dollars off it for free...
 

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well,

the news is that rajapaksa is making a come back. with current president was their lackey was well known but they have ordered him to restore them into SL again...

While kaka continue to pump dollars, and fertilisers and same time asking us to buy khadi.. I don't see this giving us any returns in medium to long term... we need to tighten purse strings.. SL have not shown any inclination so far towards us.. thats they r like porkies at the moment... using us and monkeys against each other and getting dollars off it for free...
The current president is from a different political party,is pro-west and is a neo-liberal and has stood against the Rajapaksa's and defeated his elder brother in elections. They are political rivals. When he was in power before they moved to a pro-US stance,said they would work with the UNHRC and there was criticism of Chinese loans,etc which caused some rebukes from Chinese officials. But the west didn't actually help so they had to humiliating go back to China which helped the younger Rajapaksa to get into power.
 

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Modiji did too much yoga and went on too plain diet and forgot gita's message...he is causing more damage to hindu deterrent within India with his lack of action whether its Bollywood drug muling (that idiots son is out), Bengals hindu killings or Rajasthan. Congress had more guts than this cuck that BJP turned into....yogiji is the only hope now. States have lost fear of central power with Punjab and khalistanis out of control but pretty much same story across the board internal and external. I do not think he will come through reestablishing sanatan glory

With respect to SL, no one knows what India is doing...south was the only somewhat non threatening area we had but now not sending message to SL is bad show. Herding is about leading and establishing fear and discipline
There's only a one thing India can do. Either take Mattala airport of Trinco harbour.
 

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There's only a one thing India can do. Either take Mattala airport of Trinco harbour.
Two questions from my side,

Did Sri Lanka ever offered Hambantota port to India?

And did Sri Lanka ever asked India to install an Indian Navy base?
 

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Two questions from my side,

Did Sri Lanka ever offered Hambantota port to India?

And did Sri Lanka ever asked India to install an Indian Navy base?
As of H'tota, Yes.

For the Naval Base, No.
 

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