Small arms and Light Weapons

[NoobWannaLearn]

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Aise kaise hoga Lokesh Babu...

Explain in simple terms quality not up to mark?

 

[Lonewarrior]

Explain in simple terms quality not up to mark?

Compared to Mini Uzi (1980) and MAC-10 (1970), definitely a cutting edge weapon.
But compared to MP-9 (2000), it still has a long way to catch up.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Compared to Mini Uzi (1980) and MAC-10 (1970), definitely a cutting edge weapon.
But compared to MP-9 (2000), it still has a long way to catch up.

Manufacturing defect or its by design? Gotta do better if they intend to replace mp9s in future with asmi especially since mp9s are silenced

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[Aditya Ballal]

 

[Johny_Baba]

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During my yatra to Somnath Mahadev in past, talking about 2010 timeframes, i used to see this a lot in hands of police there. Other notable rifle was of course 1A SLR with maroon handguards. INSAS and AKs were there but in hands of paramilitary like guys.
Edit - i mean SMLE in jungle carbine version, i don't exactly remember if they were desi Ishapore 2A or 2A1 based chambered in 7.62 NATO or usual .303 ones but they sure were short with that funnel type flash hider.

 

[Love Charger]

During my yatra to Somnath Mahadev in past, talking about 2010 timeframes, i used to see this a lot in hands of police there. Other notable rifle was of course 1A SLR with maroon handguards. INSAS and AKs were there but in hands of paramilitary like guys.
Edit - i mean SMLE in jungle carbine version, i don't exactly remember if they were desi Ishapore 2A or 2A1 based chambered in 7.62 NATO or usual .303 ones but they sure were short with that funnel type flash hider.

If you remember round same time there used to be a jeep patrol with Bren n somnath I saw it a couple of times.

 

[Johny_Baba]

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Aise kaise hoga Lokesh Babu...

>based on most likely Sterling SMG's "trigger mechanism"
?? reminder that Sterling was open bolt SMG and its trigger mechanism is just a spring loaded sear that drops down when a user pulls trigger, and a secondary semi-auto sear that gets actuated when the SMG is put on that mode.

ASMI is rather a closed bolt, straight blowback SMG and high chance it incorporated typical Kalashnikov style trigger mechanism (reduced in scale-size) that we put in MSMC//JVPC as on that one it is also Safe-Full Auto-Semi Auto fashion.

Sure it's possible to turn it into standard Safe-Semi-Full Auto fashion that the west typically follows but i guess since Sterling was in S-A-R and AKs that we use en masse are also S-A-R our guys may have thought of keeping it similar keeping training considerations in mind.

Manufacturing defect or its by design? Gotta do better if they intend to replace mp9s in future with asmi especially since mp9s are silenced

ASMI was already shown with threaded muzzle, it is highly likely to get suppressors on it for those kind of roles.

 

[Marliii]

 

[Lonewarrior]

>based on most likely Sterling SMG's "trigger mechanism"
?? reminder that Sterling was open bolt SMG and its trigger mechanism is just a spring loaded sear that drops down when a user pulls trigger, and a secondary semi-auto sear that gets actuated when the SMG is put on that mode.

ASMI is rather a closed bolt, straight blowback SMG and high chance it incorporated typical Kalashnikov style trigger mechanism (reduced in scale-size) that we put in MSMC//JVPC as on that one it is also Safe-Full Auto-Semi Auto fashion.

Sure it's possible to turn it into standard Safe-Semi-Full Auto fashion that the west typically follows but i guess since Sterling was in S-A-R and AKs that we use en masse are also S-A-R our guys may have thought of keeping it similar keeping training considerations in mind.

Maybe they're using closed bolt design but can't see any hammer in this particular pic; neither in fired position nor in cocked position.
That's why assumed it to be open bolt

 

[Lonewarrior]

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Interesting...that conical flash hider is orginal. When Birmingham Small Arms factory shortened SMLE Rifle No. 4 then this particular flash hider was designed by them because .303 using cordite powder from short barrel was quite flashbang-ish.

Whoever manufactured jungle carbine, be it BSA in Britain or Lithgow in Australia or Ishapore in India all uses this same style of conical flash hider.

 

[Johny_Baba]

Maybe they're using closed bolt design but can't see any hammer in this particular pic; neither in fired position nor in cocked position.
That's why assumed it to be open bolt
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it's housed inside lower receiver part of course which they shown as dark part and not showing all intrinsic details
otherwise see it in action yourself

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Found something interesting

 

[Love Charger]

Found something interesting

Full auto glock , mp5 ,M4 Carbine, suppressed AR9m is what I will say are good in futo while maintaining control of the rifle and keeping it aimed on the target

 

[binayak95]

Full auto glock , mp5 ,M4 Carbine, suppressed AR9m is what I will say are good in futo while maintaining control of the rifle and keeping it aimed on the target

No weapon should be fired full auto except tripod and bipod emplaced weapons.

 

[kaboom]

No weapon should be fired full auto except tripod and bipod emplaced weapons.

Except if you are shooting a pedo

 

[Marliii]

Except if you are shooting a pedo

 

[BlackViking]

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@Lonewarrior @Johny_Baba I thought you fellas will spot this one and tell something more about it.

 

[Johny_Baba]

@Lonewarrior @Johny_Baba I thought you fellas will spot this one and tell something more about it.

Grand Power STRIBOG AP9 or SP9 line of SMG,
your standard closed bolt, blowback type of SMG in pistol calibres like 9x19mm, .40, .45 etc

seems quite similar to Swiss B&T APC line of SMGs

 

[Lonewarrior]

@Lonewarrior @Johny_Baba I thought you fellas will spot this one and tell something more about it.

It had been already posted by someone in this thread or may be in the DRDO one if I'm not wrong. Can't find it now
There was this pic of SSS Defence guys showing their sniper rifle to a bunch of people and in the background a Grand Power Stribog was there on the wall.

Was that you @NoobWannaLearn ?