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When picking a gun, what would your primary consideration be?


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ALBY

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Can't imagine the recoil of this thing...
Don't worry just like mac10 it will have its most actions in box office rather than actual battle fields. A double barell auto rifle firing 7.62 and 5.56 ammo sounds bull shit:p
 

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These type butt stocks which are straight in top contributes much to the stability while firing than the ones which are slant in the top portion like regular kalashnikov buttstocks as while firing the butt stock will try to jump up and the ones with straight cut tops will make this jumping reduce drastically.that's why Eugene stoner while designing M16 made a straight butt stock unlike that of M14
 

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Beretta ARX160 A2 5.56x45mm assault rifle



A variant of this can be out FINSAS rifle..
Is the weapon currently in the prodn line or is undergoing evaluation tests? Iam asking about beretta not about f-insas.how is its performance compared to those of cz805 and scar?
 

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Is the weapon currently in the prodn line or is undergoing evaluation tests? Iam asking about beretta not about f-insas.how is its performance compared to those of cz805 and scar?
All these New generation Rifles are more or less same, SCAR is little better..

This Rifle versions is under evaluation for FINSAS which will equipped Solider from 2020..
 

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These type butt stocks which are straight in top contributes much to the stability while firing than the ones which are slant in the top portion like regular kalashnikov buttstocks as while firing the butt stock will try to jump up and the ones with straight cut tops will make this jumping reduce drastically.that's why Eugene stoner while designing M16 made a straight butt stock unlike that of M14
I dont believe there is anything like that, Those are pure commercial words i assure you..

Not Long Ago, I posted on Butt of the Rifle, Special Magpul once which i think are good and have practical means on firing range or Field situation..
 

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Problem with the aesthetics of the stock that came on the rifle.I prefer a shorter stock..


Photo 1 – a close-up of the finished conversion. The buffer tube was cut so that when the CTR is fully collapsed, there is very little gap between stock and folding mechanism. Not only did this keep the length to absolute minimum with the stock collapsed, but IMO created a clean look too.

Photo 2 – Top view. The top of the CTR is wider and more rounded, providing a comfortable cheek weld.

Photo 3 – Stock folded, which works out fine with no optic attached to the rail.

Photo 4 – Close-up, right side.
 

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The next series of photos show the difference between the original and ACE/Magpul conversion. I zip-tied the original stock to the CTR and tried to position it as close as possible to where it would actually sit installed.





This photo illustrates a few reasons for my decision to do the conversion; (1) I attained a shorter pull, even with the Magpul recoil pad installed; (2) the height of the CTR stock is better suited for the optics I use; (3) I found the way the original stock protrudes on the bottom of the butt end was very uncomfortable. In comparison, the CTR tapers forward at the bottom, which I find far more comfortable.

Seen from the other side. The way the butt on the CTR stock angles forward on the bottom, in combination with its much larger contact area with the shoulder and recoil pad made a HUGE difference to me. The rifle is now truly a pleasure to shoot!

The difference in butt size between the two stocks.






Originally from:
AR stocks on AK's...sacrilege or useful modification? - M4Carbine.net Forums
 

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Points must be noted here:





1. Butt size matters its more comfortable when handling the rifle as the recoil distribute over larger portion hence more control..

2. Shorter Butt is my specific..
 

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I dont believe there is anything like that, Those are pure commercial words i assure you..

Not Long Ago, I posted on Butt of the Rifle, Special Magpul once which i think are good and have practical means on firing range or Field situation..
Kunal my post was based on a nat geo vedio about machine guns which illustrates buttstocks like those of M14 etc are more prone to jump up than that of M16 due to the design of butt
 

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Kunal my post was based on a nat geo vedio about machine guns which illustrates buttstocks like those of M14 etc are more prone to jump up than that of M16 due to the design of butt
I know, Saw that long time back there is nothing such factor in real firing..

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Beretta ARX160 A2 5.56x45mm assault rifle



A variant of this can be out FINSAS rifle..
kunal sir i think arx 160 is the best next gen ar available in the market today, its got some cool features like reversible charging handle, quick change barrel, ambi ejection but i dont think its battle proven
 

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kunal sir i think arx 160 is the best next gen ar available in the market today, its got some cool features like reversible charging handle, quick change barrel, ambi ejection but i dont think its battle proven
i waiting to see AK12 in action.the ever reliable kalashnikov weapon with new gen addons will surely pose a great challenge to this toy looking ones:p
 

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kunal sir i think arx 160 is the best next gen ar available in the market today, its got some cool features like reversible charging handle, quick change barrel, ambi ejection but i dont think its battle proven
This is not something really new and not avaiable for other AR's. I know it might sounds not fair, but the only, really new features are shown only in case of Polish MSBS-5,56 family of modular small arms for infantry. Where the standard AR can be quickly converted to the bullpup AR in case of need, and both standard and bullpup use common parts. So there are many options for armed forces, and they can choose both standard and bullpup design to fulfill their needs, while reducing costs thanks to the common components and in fact using on AR just in two configurations. Also there was anounced that MSBS-7,62 will also be designed.
 

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kunal sir i think arx 160 is the best next gen ar available in the market today, its got some cool features like reversible charging handle, quick change barrel, ambi ejection but i dont think its battle proven
It will be battle proven once in service, Though i hope evaluation should be tuff so that deficiency can be corrected before it enter into service..

Till then most new gen rifles are not battle proven..
 

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Engineering technologies 2012 exhibition

5.56mm AK-12 rifle










 

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Lets wait for ARDE's F-INSAS rifle to appear before we jump on options. Beretta, AK, Colt ... option in hundreds but whats the point in flushing millions to foreign dump again when we have already acquired enough expertise thanks to INSAS? ..........Indian taxpayers won't always have deeper pockets as we won't keep developing at ever faster pace. Before real slow down (settling economy) approaches, we make sure we have all the technological capability at least in defense tech. Let not fool ourselves by believing in illusion of being ever growing economy, a situation demanding military expenditure cuts can very well be a reality for us too. Do mind that developing in house capability not only helps in sustaining a war and meeting needs at cheaper cost but also makes one capable of making money through exports. Lets think beyond what Rifle makes IA Jawans look more glamorous, country is much more than Army and military glamour.
 

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Lets wait for ARDE's F-INSAS rifle to appear before we jump on options. Beretta, AK, Colt ... option in hundreds but whats the point in flushing millions to foreign dump again
Rahul you are little late, I was informed by a OFB official in expo that Only Berrata have what IA needs..

Regarding DRDO Rifle, Its probably competing in FINSAS rifle competition with other rifles..
 

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