Small arms and Light Weapons

When picking a gun, what would your primary consideration be?


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Love Charger

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Imagine Mudi-Ji C-Clamp that bitch, niggaz over here would loose it.
Sirji , i saw on Bing. Com what exactly was a c clamp , the front part, the barrel I guess shouod be of a uniform shape ideally cylindrical.
This Kalashnikov can't be c clampd
 

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I have a strong inkling that adoption of AK will go something like this, rfi refloated again and again for 7.62nato rifle, failure to choose each time and then ultimately AK will sooner or later become the defacto rifle of not only backline troops but also frontline troops. If this happens you'll have a situation where section lmg ammo is different from rifles, I am not that much knowledgeable regarding ammo types but it's widely agreed that 7.62Ak might not be the best or even the 2nd or 3rd best for our infantry and the terrain they are going to fight in, and the 2nd laughable thing being that we will be indicating a rifle for which we didn't had the foresight to include a collapsible buttstock bcoz we are being penny wise but pound foolish.

I have never been for ofb or arde designed guns for IA, they are just so bad. But now even the import composition and idea is such bad that I hope MoD shove down some IDDM weapons down IA.
I don't know why but this frontline troops weapons and backline troops weapons being different sound so stupid. It's not like our frontline troops are being equipped with a gun with new fire control sights like that of US and majority of our infantry is almost as bad as a decade ago. Recent joint exercise of Marcos and para is eye opener, just see the equipment contrast, when navy is excelling you in what you are supposed to be good at and a leader, there's some problem.
I think even after 10 years we would be still seeing the same sh*t, nobody cares for poor chap infantry it seems.
The range at which we will be engaging would be within the effective range of 7.62 AK remember the Pakis have the Type56 too and are introducing two new guns in both the Nato and 39 caliber, for the china front we got the Sig and the second batch will be ordered too despite everyones cribbing. Also wasnt their some issue with AKs collapsible buttstock being of low quality?

Also the British use a 7.62 NATO machine gun at squad level, the germans have 3, French 2 if they can why is it impossible for us?
 

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Don't know what our infantry is supposed to do or not but it's still taught to our soldiers.

It's only applicable where both the sides are out of ammunition, otherwise it's more or less a suicide.
Also mildly useful when charging bunkers, in close quarters, or in trenches when you come across the enemy by surprise and realise no ammo left. Though not really that useful.
 

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Also mildly useful when charging bunkers, in close quarters, or in trenches when you come across the enemy by surprise and realise no ammo left. Though not really that useful.
thats why you have a buddy and learn emergency reloads. But if all of that fails you have your side arm which Indian soldiers dont have. I guess pointy metal will do.
 

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The range at which we will be engaging would be within the effective range of 7.62 AK remember the Pakis have the Type56 too and are introducing two new guns in both the Nato and 39 caliber, for the china front we got the Sig and the second batch will be ordered too despite everyones cribbing. Also wasnt their some issue with AKs collapsible buttstock being of low quality?

Also the British use a 7.62 NATO machine gun at squad level, the germans have 3, French 2 if they can why is it impossible for us?
I bet at some point of time in near future chinese will be adopting something like the new US fire control sight at like one tenth the price. What about the effective range then, that FCS sight is damn scary in garand thumb video, sure shot at each trigger pull.
 

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I bet at some point of time in near future chinese will be adopting something like the new US fire control sight at like one tenth the price. What about the effective range then, that FCS sight is damn scary in garand thumb video, sure shot at each trigger pull.
Chinese have decided their new rifle and sight aint changing any time soon, if needed nothing is stopping us from using a similar sight for our Sigs
 

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Pakis use G3 as their main Infantry rifle and Type-56 in carbine role.

I guess we planning something similar with Sig-716 and AK-203. But to take advantage of the longer range of Sig-716 we need long range optics on each rifle.
 

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Pakis use G3 as their main Infantry rifle and Type-56 in carbine role.

I guess we planning something similar with Sig-716 and AK-203. But to take advantage of the longer range of Sig-716 we need long range optics on each rifle.
Do pakis have optics for each g3
 

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I don't know from where you got the 50% more weight figure of 7.62 NATO round compared with 7.62 AK round.

The bulk production NATO round (M80) weighs 147 gr, while the AK round (M43) weighs 123 gr. Thus the M80 weighs just about 19.51% more compare to the M43.

A 7.62×51 M80 cartridge has a 147 grain bullet loaded to a muzzle velocity of 2,800 fps. This gives it a muzzle energy of 2,559 ft lbs. The 7.62×39 M43 cartridge often has a 123 grain bullet loaded to a muzzle velocity of about 2,350 fps. This gives it a substantially lower muzzle energy of 1,508 ft lbs. That makes the 7.62×51 about 40 percent more powerful in terms of kinetic energy.
Battle rifle isn't suitable everywhere... A carbine which is compact will be utilised by mostly tank crews those who are not involved in direct action etc.

While AK rounds are meant in general for jungle op anti terror op etc where battle round isn't needed.

All this can be solved with a intermediate round though.

Also machine guns sniper etc use different rounds . We have plenty of AK rounds , they are cheap and Ex Soviet nation can also provide them from their huge stocks.

5.56 already have a supply line.
 

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