Small arms and Light Weapons

When picking a gun, what would your primary consideration be?


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hitesh

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Sub-Machine Gun- BPAS-07

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Length: 24.2 inches
Barrel Length: 8.9 inches
Weight with magazine: 10.3 pounds
Cartridge: 10mm Auto
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Rate of fire: 500-550 rounds per minute
Mussel velocity: 1,320 feet per second
Effective Range: 200 metres
Feed System: 30 round detachable box magazine
 

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@ hitesh it doesn't seem these assault rifles are real or any one hade produced it ever..check the site from where you had pasted it.
they are just designs made by gaming maniacs.
 

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Sub-Machine Gun- BPAS-07

Information:
Length: 24.2 inches
Barrel Length: 8.9 inches
Weight with magazine: 10.3 pounds
Cartridge: 10mm Auto
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Rate of fire: 500-550 rounds per minute
Mussel velocity: 1,320 feet per second
Effective Range: 200 metres
Feed System: 30 round detachable box magazine
This design isn't practical. The magazine positioned too close to the back of the handle will be distracting.
 

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India takes another shot at desi AK-47

NAGPUR: Mikhail Kalashnikov, the inventor of the AK-47 rifle, may not get a chance to complain now, even though an India ordnance factory (OF) has developed an AK-inspired gun for its forces. The OF now hopes its latest development will not infringe patent norms.

Early in 2000, an Indian ordnance factory had developed a replica of the AK-47, and put it on display at a defence expo in New Delhi. The weapon caught the eye of none other than the original designer, Kalashnikov himself. He objected and threatened to file a copyright violation case against the government weapon maker, forcing plans for an Indian AK-47 to be put on hold.

Now, this popular weapon may soon have its Indian cousin. Not exactly the AK-47 of the Russian make, it is claimed to be as effective. The weapon developed by Tiruchirapalli Ordnance Factory in Tamil Nadu, is undergoing final rounds of evaluation by an internal team. After this, it is planned to be offered to the paramilitary forces for use in anti-Maoist operations, said a source.

Sources also said that the paramilitary would be the preferred client initially, as it is a long-drawn affair to get approvals from army for a new weapon.

This time, the technology has been tweaked to ensure no question of copyright violation arises. The Indian gun is based on a system of 'tilting breech block' as against the 'rotating breech block' in the AK-47. In layman's terms, the mechanism which performs one of the key functions during the firing action, will undergo a tilting movement as against rotation in the original AK-47.

The travel length for the bullet to come out of the barrel has also been reduced, which again makes it distinct from the AK which Kalashnikov designed.

Not formally christened so far, the weapon is currently called the Tiruchirapalli Assault Rifle (TAR). A team of experts from other factories has been formed to assess the weapon, after which it would be offered to users. It is hoped that paramilitary forces may adopt it faster, since it would reduce their dependence on imports.

The TAR has an effective range of 400 meters and uses 7.62x36 mm bullets. It also has mechanism of firing a single shot at a time as well as multiple shots. This makes it almost like the AK-47, on the performance front. Rather, the TAR has the capacity to fire 800 bullets in an hour while the AK-47 can fire 700, sources said.

India takes another shot at desi AK-47 - Times Of India
 

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a few questions about the INSAS:
1. how many rifles have been produced till today?
2. is it still in production? and if yes the full black variant or the standard orange one?
3. how many have been issued to CISF, Police...?
4 and is the peformance really as bad as so many people say?
 

Kunal Biswas

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a few questions about the INSAS:
1. how many rifles have been produced till today?
2. is it still in production? and if yes the full black variant or the standard orange one?
3. how many have been issued to CISF, Police...?
4 and is the peformance really as bad as so many people say?
1. At least 1.6 million are operational In Army and some are in Army reserves stores, additional Rifles are used by others than army..
2. Yes, Still produce and spares for police and paramilitary forces in county, May be both, Nepalese army use Insas Black..
3. Dont know but Gujarat police totally using Insas..
4. NO, The problems were back in 1999-2000 nothing is wrong, Insas is very accurate and reliable rifle..
 

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1. At least 1.6 million are operational In Army and some are in Army reserves stores, additional Rifles are used by others than army..
2. Yes, Still produce and spares for police and paramilitary forces in county, May be both, Nepalese army use Insas Black..
3. Dont know but Gujarat police totally using Insas..
4. NO, The problems were back in 1999-2000 nothing is wrong, Insas is very accurate and reliable rifle..

thx for the infos. wow 1.6 million.... and I was already shocked by wikipedia saying that there are only 300000 in the army
 

Kunal Biswas

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thx for the infos. wow 1.6 million.... and I was already shocked by wikipedia saying that there are only 300000 in the army
Actually it could be way more if someone take paramilitary like BSF..

You know its really odd, Every Infantry unit in Indian army got Insas.. :)
Only Few FALS are now seen in Arty may be, Even AD, EME, AMC all got Insas..
Even Police all over India use Insas in mass....

 
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Param

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Actually it could be way more if someone take paramilitary like BSF..

You know its really odd, Every Infantry unit in Indian army got Insas.. :)
Only Few FALS are now seen in Arty may be, Even AD, EME, AMC all got Insas..
Even Police all over India use Insas in mass....

Has that problem regarding the Polymer magazines getting cracked on falling been fixed?
 

Kunal Biswas

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Has that problem regarding the Polymer magazines getting cracked on falling been fixed?
Long back, It cracked due to cold, Now their is no problem with this rifle..
 

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Has that problem regarding the Polymer magazines getting cracked on falling been fixed?
It used to crack because of sub-zero temperatures but i dont see how they fixed the issue of cracking due to impact.
 

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Rifle factory develops weapon for future infantryman

F-Insas Rifle Design Clears Audit, To Go Into Production From Jan 2012

The defence ministry may no longer have to search for an advanced rifle to arm the Indian infantry soldier of the future under the F-Insas project. Rifle Factory Ishapore (RFI) claims to have come up with an advanced variant of the existing 5.56 mm Insas rifle that will go into production from January, 2012.

Read the full story here.
 

Kunal Biswas

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Its actually a G4 clone..
Had very bad reputation in Close combat..

1. Recoil is high
2. Full auto is out of questions unlike in AK we can
3. Only 18rnds mag..
4. Highly inaccurate also less powerful coz of short barrel
 

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F-Insas Rifle Design Clears Audit, To Go Into Production From Jan 2012

The defence ministry may no longer have to search for an advanced rifle to arm the Indian infantry soldier of the future under the F-Insas project. Rifle Factory Ishapore (RFI) claims to have come up with an advanced variant of the existing 5.56 mm Insas rifle that will go into production from January, 2012.

Read the full story here.

I want to see this "advanced variant of the existing 5.56 mm Insas rifle"..
 
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