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When picking a gun, what would your primary consideration be?


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MisraZ

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It is going to be SIG one, with either SIG or General Dynamics version of ammunition.

some of the Squad Automatic Weapons (M249//M27) would be replaced with General Dynamics one.

Textron has very less chance.
My money is on SIG. Its ammo is more conventional i.e. brass-steel hybrid. We all know why XM8 wasn't selected. Uncle SAM doesn't trust polymer cartridges / weapons much.
 

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Three finalised US Army weapons to replace M16/M4!!
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on a sidenote,
meet 6.8mm Sherwood, another 6.xmm round trying to get into NGSW program,
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made by amreeki VK systems,

it's said that bullet length is of 45mm and case is based on .284 winchester,
also said that you'd only need barrel change with standard 7.62 NATO rifles as 6.8 Sherwood is compatible with 7.62mm bolts and bolt carriers, no special modifications are required.
(and of course some minor gas settings in gas system)

The only potential downside with Sherwood is the case is slightly tapered that means when stacked together in staggered column (i.e. like when in magazine) it 'tends' to curve slightly like an AK round so perhaps current gen 7.62 NATO mags *might* not work so well with this, being of straight type and so.
 

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on a sidenote,
meet 6.8mm Sherwood, another 6.xmm round trying to get into NGSW program,
View attachment 84182
made by amreeki VK systems,

it's said that bullet length is of 45mm and case is based on .284 winchester,
also said that you'd only need barrel change with standard 7.62 NATO rifles as 6.8 Sherwood is compatible with 7.62mm bolts and bolt carriers, no special modifications are required.
(and of course some minor gas settings in gas system)

The only potential downside with Sherwood is the case is slightly tapered that means when stacked together in staggered column (i.e. like when in magazine) it 'tends' to curve slightly like an AK round so perhaps current gen 7.62 NATO mags *might* not work so well with this, being of straight type and so.
I don't understand the last part, can you explain again like with pictures??
 

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I don't understand the last part, can you explain again like with pictures??
Simple, observe the cylindrical shape and 'steep' of the cylindrical section from bottom (primer side) to top (bullet side) on this AK round vs same on AR one,
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can you see it that 5.56x45mm is oveall 'straighter' than 7.62x39mm ? so when stacked together side-by-side AR one would mostly remain a straight pile upto some 20-22 rounds-just like a pile of books,
while AK one would start 'curving'-just like a pile of empty folders

say,this
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vs
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or in our case,this
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vs
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We can also observe same in magazines of both rounds,
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^same thing with Sherwood, it has more 'taper' = more 'steeper' angle of edge than 7.62 NATO so it will 'tend' to curve when stacke together in magazine etc.
 
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Simple, observe the cylindrical shape and 'steep' of the cylindrical section from bottom (primer side) to top (bullet side) on this AK round vs same on AR one,
View attachment 84183
can you see it that 5.56x45mm is oveall 'straighter' than 7.62x39mm ? so when stacked together side-by-side AR one would mostly remain a straight pile upto some 20-22 rounds-just like a pile of books,
while AK one would start 'curving'-just like a pile of empty folders
View attachment 84185
vs
View attachment 84186
We can also observe same in magazines of both rounds,
View attachment 84187

^same thing with Sherwood, it has more 'taper' = more 'steeper' angle of edge than 7.62 NATO so it will 'tend' to curve when stacke together in magazine etc.
This was the main reason US found the 300blk right?
 

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This was the main reason US found the 300blk right?
Oh i haven't followed .300 Blackout's developmental approach much but basic skimming through wikipedia article suggest so, mainly their eqivalent to 7.62x39mm//7.92x33mm that can effectively be feeded and fired from AR platform with minimum modification, so yeah.
 

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So mates, not that I care, but do you think about pakis signing deals for AK-103??
They might already be making it or its kopies in their preferred configuration.
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Besides it's just another AK derivative.
 

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