Small arms and Light Weapons

[Harbinger]

Vibrations don’t come from muzzle climb sirji, it comes from the gas system inside the AK-47, especially that long stroke one... that‘s why AK-47’s recoil really kicks while AR-15’s short stroke one’s recoil is extended.

Well you have these to hold the dust cover tight

 

[Vishalreddy3]

Let's keep every thing aside and go back to using this. View attachment 80917

Perfect weapon for DMR role if moded for our police forces!!

 

[FalconSlayers]

Talking about standard issue weapons, pls tell me some standard issue weapons for our police forces (not special units) to replace Lee Enfields!!
Mine is Bulgarian Arsenal

Mine is an AK-74M.

 

[Harbinger]

Talking about standard issue weapons, pls tell me some standard issue weapons for our police forces (not special units) to replace Lee Enfields!!
Mine is Bulgarian Arsenal

Normal police units already have plenty of Bulgarian AKs.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

Normal police units already have plenty of Bulgarian AKs.

Well some states, but here in Chennai I still see Lee Enfields!!

 

[FalconSlayers]

Well you have these to hold the dust cover tight View attachment 80922

Janaab looks like you don’t understand what happens when AK fires. All dust covers are held tight obviously or they’ll fall off... the long stroke piston causes vibrations in the upper receiver of the AK which causes the optic to lose zero.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Well some states, but here in Chennai I still see Lee Enfields!!

In my state everyone has AK-47s... Even “civilians”.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

In my state everyone has AK-47s.

UR from kashmir, lol

 

[Harbinger]

Janaab looks like you don’t understand what happens when AK fires. All dust covers are held tight obviously or they’ll fall off... the long stroke piston causes vibrations in the upper receiver of the AK which causes the optic to lose zero.

I do understand and I've fired many. Conventional AK dust covers aren't held tightly, they're loose.

 

[Harbinger]

I do understand and I've fired many. Conventional AK dust covers aren't held tightly, they're loose.

And they don't fall off because the front section is slightly tucked under the back sight post and the back section rests on the retainer. And that's why they vibrate, on the modern variants with top rails they're interlocked from behind and front with a moving screw which keeps them tight.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

Mine is an AK-74M.

Just imagine all are armed like this AK-74 M with EOTech sight!!
They are Russian police spetsnaz by the way!!

 

[FalconSlayers]

I do understand and I've fired many. Conventional AK dust covers aren't held tightly, they're loose.

But I want this, not AK-203.

 

[Harbinger]

@FalconSlayers if you ever get an ak in your hands which doesn't come with a top rail by default try to shake its dust cover, it'll shake without you even firing it, and insas uses the same structure but its dust cover is attached to the body with a screw from front side and the retainer's insert is broad which holds the cover firmly that's why insas comes with a top mount.

 

[Harbinger]

But I want this, not AK-203.View attachment 80924

Well i don't work for defence ministry so i can't procure it can i

 

[Harbinger]

Perfect weapon for DMR role if moded for our police forces!!

Well ofb did it a long ago but it is chambered in 315 for civilians.

 

[Harbinger]

@FalconSlayers And that lose cover is exactly the reason why conventional AKs like ak103 come with a side mount, the sight doesn't touch the receiver and the aks from fab defence use a different kind of dust cover which is held firmly, so yeah unfortunately i do know how an ak fires

 

[Harbinger]

And they use lose receivers to reduce the stoppages. Less cramped the gun is from inside, less it will jam.

 

[FalconSlayers]

And they use lose receivers to reduce the stoppages. Less cramped the gun is from inside, less it will jam.

So at the end, AK-203 will be a mess. Hence I support Gas operated Short stroke AR-15s with 14.5” Barrel or even a 16” barrel.

 

[Aspirant847]

In my state everyone has AK-47s... Even “civilians”.

you maybe confusing tamancha's with ak's

 

[Aspirant847]

So at the end, AK-203 will be a mess. Hence I support Gas operated Short stroke AR-15s with 14.5” Barrel or even a 16” barrel.

what's wrong in ak-203?