Small arms and Light Weapons

[Vishalreddy3]

Shotguns are useless for a country like India, they're only good for swat teams which have to clear a small amount of area quickly At close range, UP Police maintains stocks of 12 gauge pump action shotguns from OFB which are used for crowd control purposes, also known "pellet guns" in kashmir. (used by crpf and bsf in kashmir). Other than that these are only good for hunting animals.

Can be used by NSG, CRPF QRT and COBRA Commandos, RR, City police SWATs, Forest Rangers.

 

[Harbinger]

Let's keep every thing aside and go back to using this.

 

[Harbinger]

Can be used by NSG, CRPF QRT and COBRA Commandos, RR, City police SWATs, Forest Rangers.

Lol why would COBRA, CRPF QRT and RR use a shotgun? Forest rangers already use ofb 12 gauge shotguns.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

Lol why would COBRA, CRPF QRT and RR use a shotgun? Forest rangers already use ofb 12 gauge shotguns.

Because of Close Quarter engagement and door room clearance!!! Shortguns are really versatile in breaking doors and locks!!

 

[Vishalreddy3]

And I'm saying again There's no term such as a district armed police. Special task forces have a different chain of command and report directly to state hq and work as an auxiliary force. Every police department in india is armed.

I really get confused in the structure, can you look at this and tell me if its correct??

 

[Harbinger]

Because of Close Quarter engagement and door room clearance!!! Shortguns are really versatile in breaking doors and locks!!

COBRA's job is to hunt and kill naxals with state police, they don't have to breach cramped buildings so I don't see any use for a shotgun. You do realise any kind of shotgun doesn't have an effective range beyond 50-60M? A 9MM pistol can hit farther and more accurately than a shotgun which just spreads small metal splinters in a radius of 40-50m?

 

[Vishalreddy3]

COBRA's job is to hunt and kill naxals with state police, they don't have to breach cramped buildings so I don't see any use for a shotgun. You do realise any kind of shotgun doesn't have an effective range beyond 50-60M? A 9MM pistol can hit farther and more accurately than a shotgun which just spreads small metal splinters in a radius of 40-50m?

Yes yes, OK not useful in jungle warfare, but certainly in Urban scenario!!

 

[Harbinger]

I really get confused in the structure, can you look at this and tell me if its correct??

What he has explained as "unarmed branch" works in background you don't see or interact with them, they work within the boundaries of a police station. The cops you see on roadside belong to the "armed branch"

 

[Vishalreddy3]

What he has explained as "unarmed branch" works in background you don't see or interact with them, they work within the boundaries of a police station. The cops you see on roadside belong to the "armed branch"

I think he does mention armed brance at the end of the article!!

 

[Harbinger]

I think he does mention armed brance at the end of the article!!
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That's exactly what i said. he has used those terms to give a normal civilian an idea of structure. There's no distinction of "armed" and "unarmed" within the police department. Those who do the office job are simply referred as staffs by policemen, and they're called "unarmed" him in that article.

 

[Harbinger]

I think he does mention armed brance at the end of the article!!
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Moreover he's merely giving an opinion which could be taken as reference to reform the current structure.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

That's exactly what i said. he has used those terms to give a normal civilian an idea of structure. There's no distinction of "armed" and "unarmed" exist within the police department. Those who do the office job are simply referred as staffs by policemen, and they're called "unarmed" him in that article.

Noice, so everyone is trained with weapons then!! Cool, in times of emergency only weapons would be in shortage, not manpower!!

 

[Spindrift]

Let's keep every thing aside and go back to using this. View attachment 80917

And practice the mad minute every day until one can fire 40 rounds a minute

 

[FalconSlayers]

Because optics aren't meant to be placed directly on the dust cover of AKs, they don't get un-zeroed if you mount it on the side mount, AKs have side mounts for that very reason

AK-203 have rails on the dust cover sirji, IA already mounts optics on the dust cover of FAB MOD AK-47s. Wonder what do these guys think.

 

[Harbinger]

Noice, so everyone is trained with weapons then!! Cool, in times of emergency only weapons would be in shortage, not manpower!!

Well yes, for example the official gardener of an intermediate relative (an ips officer) of mine goes to police shooting range once in every 6 month

 

[Harbinger]

AK-203 have rails on the dust cover sirji, IA already mounts optics on the dust cover of FAB MOD AK-47s. Wonder what do these guys think.

AK 203 uses a flash hider which decreases the gun "climb" so it'll not affect the sights much.

 

[FalconSlayers]

AK 203 uses a flash hider which decreases the gun "climb" so it'll not affect the sights much.

Vibrations don’t come from muzzle climb sirji, it comes from the gas system inside the AK-47, especially that long stroke one... that‘s why AK-47’s recoil really kicks while AR-15’s short stroke one’s recoil is extended.

 

[Harbinger]

AK-203 have rails on the dust cover sirji, IA already mounts optics on the dust cover of FAB MOD AK-47s. Wonder what do these guys think.

Can't say about fab AKs but older arsenal AKs have side mounts for sights except the under folding variant probably because from i what i have noticed first hand, their dust covers are kind of loose.

 

[Akula]

And the one in the center is called?

Is Called:- I have a boyfriend.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

Talking about standard issue weapons, pls tell me some standard issue weapons for our police forces (not special units) to replace Lee Enfields!!
Mine is Bulgarian Arsenal