Skirmishs at LOC, LAC & International Border

[Willy2]

Arrow is the trijunction aka Doklam, higher ground, a plateau. Circle is the Chinese road inside Indian area. The both countries are in standoff because from trijunction they can easily bring the Indian post under control and vice versa. View attachment 19507

Can't find this area in Google map , what are the coordinates ?

 

[Screambowl]

Can't find this area in Google map , what are the coordinates ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doklam
https://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=27.3~88.933333&style=h&lvl=9&sp=Point.27.3_88.933333_Doklam___

 

[Project Dharma]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doklam
https://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=27.3~88.933333&style=h&lvl=9&sp=Point.27.3_88.933333_Doklam___

Found the one Bing user in the world.

 

[Indibomber]

Kadi ninda obediently listening to jihadi madam
View attachment 19536

NindaTurtle:- Vibrator kaam kar raha hai?
Jihadan:- Haramkhor Chinese maal laya thaa na..

 

[Indian Sniper.001]

Doval ji _________________________/\______________________________

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-of-the-doklam-deal/articleshow/60283770.cms?

NEW DELHI: "Is it your territory?" China's state councillor Yang Jiechi bluntly asked national security adviser A K Doval on the presence of Indian troops at Doklam as the two met on July 27 in Beijing to make the first diplomatic stab at resolving the confrontation over the strategically crucial patch.

The sharp poser reflected the Chinese intransigence over changing the status quo at the trijunction of Bhutan, India and China by building a road through what India considers to be Bhutanese territory.

The toughness failed to faze Doval, who, according to sources here, is learned to have responded that the point of contention was not China's territory either as it had been claimed by Bhutan. "Does every disputed territory become China's by default?" sources quoted the NSA as having replied.

Doval asserted that the territory was part of Bhutan, and a treaty with the Himalayan kingdom obliged India to look after the latter's security.

The NSA also stressed that Doklam was on the table during the several rounds of negotiations China has held with Bhutan to solve their border disputes, while reminding his interlocutor of Beijing's offer to hand over to the kingdom 500 sq km in the north in exchange for Doklam.

He is learned to have argued that China's claim over Doklam was not settled, and both sides should simultaneously pull back their troops to restore status quo.

The sharp exchange was followed by several rounds of negotiations between the two sides in Beijing in which foreign secretary S Jaishankar, along with India's ambassador to China Vijay Gokhale, tried to hammer out a solution.

The talks had been okayed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping when they met in Hamburg on the sidelines of the G20 meeting on July 7. The meeting saw Modi telling Xi that the dispute should not be allowed to escalate and suggesting that negotiations be held at the NSA level.

Modi asked his team to explore ways for early resolution of the confrontation, the worst in many decades, saying differences should not be allowed to turn into conflicts as the two countries had a lot to gain from cooperation. At the same time, he sketched his bottomline very clearly. "India will not allow the status quo to be changed by force under any circumstance.

Any change must happen through negotiations and through mutual understanding," the PM is learned to have emphasised.

The brief saw the government refusing to be baited by the endless barrage of provocative statements and actions from China, including "conspicuous" movement of missiles and tanks, and scuffles at other border points.

The posture of restraint saw the Army being instructed to ignore provocations. "Even a single shot fired by an edgy soldier could have sparked a wider conflagration in such tense times," said a senior officer as he expressed admiration for the Army leadership for enforcing compliance.

But the Army did not lower its vigil even for a moment as it reinforced men and material at the confrontation site, and moved back-up forces close. "We knew that the rhetoric and the movement of missiles etc were mind games intended to get us to blink. But at the same time, we were prepared for any eventuality which might have been forced on us," said a source who added that China, used to having its way in territorial disputes with countries like the Philippines, had not bargained for India's doggedness and finally came around to realise that negotiations were the only way out.

 

[tarunraju]

Gobar Times is frothing its mouth again. This only indicates what I've been saying. They know they've been beaten, and they're butthurt about it.

 

[Kazah]

Today pakistan army is violating ceasefire with great intensity

 

[ezsasa]

Today pakistan army is violating ceasefire with great intensity

Their boss has not been able to do anything to us, so probably they decided to fall back on tried and tested formula.

 

[Jay99]

After two months, some rest for the eye muscles

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...hs-some-rest-for-the-eye-muscles-1649343.html

 

[mahesh]

China was wounded, that's why its cries on Doklam were shrill : Kanwal Sibal

 

[mahesh]

Today pakistan army is violating ceasefire with great intensity

there are violating ceasefire in anticipation of dokla being resolved and the big chunk of army would be more to the western indian borders, so they stepping on the gas to keep us on backfoot. that by now, they might be fearing that if in case india in view of dokla standoff might have acquired large stake of amunitions which could be used on pakistan, where pakistan at one point of time violated ceasefire to give china some breathing space after having a brain freeze for messing up in dolka.
its infact a expected move by pakistan.

 

[indus]

The big chunk of army would be more to the western indian borders

A newbie question. Strength of Ind army is more than 1 million. Is it realistic to say that those soldiers freed from Doklam crisis would be transferred to LoC theater?? Doesnt army has troops and eqpmnt in reserve...

 

[here2where]

Today pakistan army is violating ceasefire with great intensity

Are we replying in greater measure? How many of their huts on fire already?

 

[mahesh]

A newbie question. Strength of Ind army is more than 1 million. Is it realistic to say that those soldiers freed from Doklam crisis would be transferred to LoC theater?? Doesnt army has troops and eqpmnt in reserve...

Some times I can be an expert and a newbie too [emoji14]
I had it in my mind while put it here, I was just exaggerating the thoughts of Pakistan where its dream of 2 front attack on India collapse. And now that Indian army image has grown, Pakistan just trying to be up for it.

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[Indian Sniper.001]

A newbie question. Strength of Ind army is more than 1 million. Is it realistic to say that those soldiers freed from Doklam crisis would be transferred to LoC theater?? Doesnt army has troops and eqpmnt in reserve...

No. The troops for both the theaters are different and come under a different command. They can be transferred (but will not) if threat is imminent. Troop deployment to LC can be done by Southern/Western Command.

 

[Indian Sniper.001]

This was a popular opinion on the forum, and I too had posted it -

I still wouldn't trust these chipmunks. We will see more action (they entering our borders) in the coming days. This is just a feint.

And the Cheeni FO answered this -

 

[tarunraju]

Allow me to translate that:
"We epicly fucked up. Indians held up their end of the bargain, and we stopped construction of the roads, but because it will be a PR disaster to respond to your specific question in the affirmative, allow us to build roads around your question instead, by mentioning irrelevant bullshit such as foot-patrolling and blaming the weather."

India never felt a strategic threat in foot-patrols, which are held by China, India, and Bhutan. India felt a strategic threat in the Chinese building roads in the area, and succeeded in neutralizing that threat.

So the more chicom propagandus fool themselves by talking about foot-patrols, the more in denial they live in. Foot patrols don't establish squat, let alone sovereignty. Indian and Chinese forces will keep crossing each others' claimed borders without affecting the status quo in any tangible way. Military satellites keeping 24x7 vigil in the area will alert India of any sizable expedition party.

 

[Mikesingh]

“The Chinese smoke a lot. Sometimes, they offered us cigarettes in lieu of beedis at Doka La. We exchanged sweets and pleasantries on Independence Day,” said an army soldier sipping piping hot tea at a café in Gnathang village while returning from duty at Doka La.

Lol! That's a far cry from the hot air continuously spewed out by the Chicom media painting the Indians as devils incarnate who will be wiped out from Dokala by their superior fire power!

Strange world, what?

 

[hit&run]

Lol! That's a far cry from the hot air continuously spewed out by the Chicom media painting the Indians as devils incarnate who will be wiped out from Dokala by their superior fire power!

Strange world, what?

Same kind of stories were common during 1962. Chinis can be anything but Bhai Bhai. Just a glance at Pakistani forum will show how blatant they are with their lies. Interestingly many Pakistanis have stopped taking them seriously. From thermo Nuclear attacks to flooding and earth quacking India these rabid India haters are not even resting for one second when they would not abuse us.

 

[Willy2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doklam
https://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=27.3~88.933333&style=h&lvl=9&sp=Point.27.3_88.933333_Doklam___

Thanks , Bing Map shows the area without icecover ,may be photos taken at summer unlike "google map" . Clearly give better view than 2nd one

Also anybody notice how long Wiki page of Dolam-Doklam is now ....

At the start of standoff it's merely a small page and u don't have to scroll , and now it contain tons of data